Report: Florida man beat child with belt because of school grades

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shouldn't the parent be policing and know this before it's time for report cards?

i'm not into using belts and shyt on kids period, but it's definitely not ok re: grades IMO. getting work done/studying, and getting the extra help needed if struggling with a subject, is the job of the parent to be aware of help with, beating your kid when they fail also shows you were failing. every kid isn't going to be an A student, and some, especially when older, might truly reject school, but that's where it's on the parent to figure out how best to help their kid or find their kid a different path, not simply beat them.

I can dig that sweetheart but I gotta speak and relate to my own experiences lol. My pops will me know what time it is if I came home with a bad grade. It worked for me.
 
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Dad is a loser and failure:mjlol:

that old school slave shyt played the fukk out. No way your child gonna act out if you take the time to help them with their school work everyday.
 

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Some parents don't have to do them more than once.



You see, parenting is application of skills: physical discipline is but one of those skills.
Physical discipline isn't a skill, it's an oxymoron. Whooping your kids means you lack emotional discipline. And nobody here has been beat just once. Stop it
 

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Dad is a loser and failure:mjlol:

that old school slave shyt played the fukk out. No way your child gonna act out if you take the time to help them with their school work everyday.
Why would you help your kids with their homework when you can just beat them for doing poorly in school? That's way more effective :skip:
 

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Physical discipline isn't a skill, it's an oxymoron.

Okay, now you're just being foolish.

Whooping your kids means you lack emotional discipline. And nobody here has been beat just once. Stop it

Whooping is not a barometer of emotion; the point is to correct the behavoir...which is the textbook definition of "discipline".

BTW, behavior is physical, so "physical discipline" isn't an oxymoron.

Also, nobody said "nobody her has been beat just once". What I said was one has to be whooped once to remember it,
as if to say "remember why they were 'beat'".

I can't speak for anybody else here, but I remember every whooping I ever got and why I got it. That's my point.
I had good parents, though.
 

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it's done such a good job that Black people are actually thankful that their parents used physical violence to shape their behaviors.

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It's a sad thing really. I'm 34 and love my mom but I remember being terrified and hurt emotionally when I got beatings. Even thinking back on them makes me feel uneasy.
None of the whippings change my grades or the way I acted. Just me growing older and maturing made me realize I needed to stop goofing around.
 

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These kids today not responding to whooping anymore.

The kids are plenty responsive. It hurts. They cry. Those are responsive. Lazy ass parents aren't talking them after the fact or even before the fact.

The whoopin is the punishment and the lesson for these lazy parents.

A whoopin is different from a spanking. I smacked my niece on her hand. She started crying but I gave her a hug and told her I don't want her dancing near the stove cause it's hot. I took it a step further and put a piece of deli meat on the burner at let her watch it shrivel up and burn. She heard that popping and sizzle, smelled the smoke she was like ":dwillhuh: I don't want to get burned" whole interaction took 2 minutes and her getting her hand smacked and crying was like 30 seconds of it all. At 5 years old she was damn near about to tell me "thank you" for smacking her hand rather than letting her get burned. She more than knows, she shows that she understands not only by not doing what I specifically told her not to, but she shys away from the stove just in case it's hot. She can't see on top of it yet but she knows she doesn't want to get burned.

Gee. One would think that maybe this isn't working and...oh, I dunno...try something different.

That's what's wrong with people in general, is they lack persistence. It's hard to raise kids though. If your kid is failing math and you decide to make him work on math an additional hour or 2 a day, that's not just him sitting at the table or in the room by himself, you gotta be there. That's 7 or 14 additional hours out of your week too.

There's a level of accountability and responsibility a lot of parents don't want to take on. Kids are fun when they are fun, but life ain't always going to the park, watching movies, playing with your kids in the backyard and shyt.

That and there's people who just can't teach. There's multiple reasons for this. A. They lack the education or knowledge. If you don't know Ohms Law, how you supposed to help your kid when he's sitting at the table? Then some people just can't teach as in communicate. Like if your mom knows how to make her chili or cornbread you can be like "tell me how you do it.." And she's like "well first you.....wait, you gotta have...you know what i'll write it out for you" or "just watch what I do."
 

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Okay, now you're just being foolish.
I'm not. Good parenting is proactive. Whoopings are reactive and emotional.


Whooping is not a barometer of emotion; the point is to correct the behavoir...which is the textbook definition of "discipline".

BTW, behavior is physical, so "physical discipline" isn't an oxymoron.

Also, nobody said "nobody her has been beat just once". What I said was one has to be whooped once to remember it,
as if to say "remember why they were 'beat'".

I can't speak for anybody else here, but I remember every whooping I ever got and why I got it. That's my point.
I had good parents, though.
Whooping is definitely a barometer of emotion. It's a reaction and a blunt tool. Behavior is definitely psychological, not physical. Physical is something like grabbing your kid before they run out into the street. Kids generally think about the things they do and act out for certain reasons. Whoopings point to a lack of understanding of why your kid does what they do and how to communicate in nonviolent ways to modify their behavior.

And you literally said "Some parents don't have to do [whoopings] more than once". :stopitslime:

Again just because you can remember every whooping doesn't mean they were justified. That doesn't make any sense. So are you saying the only whoopings that are over the top are ones where a kid is beat to memory loss :wtf:

All the studies and evidence point to whoopings having negative long term outcomes for kids. At this point if you still choose to beat your kids you're a dikkhead. I give our parents a pass because information wasn't as readily available. Now there is no excuse. In the adult world you can't solve your problems with violence. There are other means of punishment that are pretty effective. It's no different with kids.
 

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All the studies and evidence point to whoopings having negative long term outcomes for kids. At this point if you still choose to beat your kids you're a dikkhead.

You showed your hand here. You're emotional about this, and you're wrong.

If you're so firm on good discipline, start by accepting mine.
 

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I got beaten with bamboo, fingers, belts with and without the buckle, slippers, hard bottomed shoes and of course the open palm. Even had torture where I had to hold me hands on top of my head for hours

TBH it never really caused me to act proper. I think the mere disappointment of my mother got to me worse, but that came with my getting older and logically thinking about right and wrong.

That’s what needs to be introduced into education of children, not physical violent reactions.
That's what did it for me.
 

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Physical discipline isn't a skill, it's an oxymoron. Whooping your kids means you lack emotional discipline. And nobody here has been beat just once. Stop it
it's done such a good job that Black people are actually thankful that their parents used physical violence to shape their behaviors.

:francis:

There's only 3 types of discipline. Supportive, corrective and preventive.

Physical redirection can be warranted and healthy. A smack on the hand is not abuse. However it can be abusive. One single smack could make a noise but not cause any flushing of the skin, no welting or stinging. Yet one single smack can break the hand at the wrist, cause swelling and bruising.

But nowadays everyone thinks everything is abuse. I sat in on a parenting class where adults nearly came to blows over leaving a crying child in their Crib. Young children wake up in the middle of the night crying. As a parent you go in make sure they aren't physically hurt, sick, needing a change, hungry/thirsty. You tend to them as needed. Yet if there's nothing that requires physical intervention such as a change, a bottle, you comfort them for a moment then put them back down and walk out of the room and if they continue to cry cause they want out or want to sleep with mom or dad or are scared, you let them cry because that's what they need to learn to sleep alone or not be scared at night.

You would have thought it was an debate on abortion they way people were screaming of emotion abuse, neglect and distress vs people thinking otherwise.

Like I said there's a level of responsibility and accountability parents have to have in general, whether administering punishments or physically redirecting behavior or anything. If you're stressed the fukk out, it's in YOUR best interest to not hit your kid otherwise you might go the fukk off and end up in jail. Same if your an alcoholic or use drugs. Don't have a couple beers and think "ima whoop this boys ass, fukking around in school coming home with d's and f's. I told him to quit fukking around...."

These lazy ass parents don't want to admit they are the problem. Yeah your kid is fukking up at school but you arent doing your part.
 

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You showed your hand here. You're emotional about this, and you're wrong.

If you're so firm on good discipline, start by accepting mine.
Jumping to the defense of people who beat their kids is not very logical breh. And it's obvious you don't like me, but try to hide behind "debate" to express it. Just say "fukk THAT nikka @GinaThatAintNoDamnPuppy!" a couple of times... and say it with your chest so you feel like a man.

"Start by accepting my discipline" This is not something honorable men from Harlem say to other men :dame: You are wilding. The only thing worse than somebody emotional is somebody emotional in denial. Don't do that. We're done here
 
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