Of course not, you havent read it, and yet you have an opinion on it
Reconciling Homophobia and Homoeroticism in Hip-hop
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Mr. Somebody
Friend Of A Friend
I'm gonna reference Žižek here so forgive me for that.
Then he gets into some stuff about hazing in the Yugoslav People's Army and how he walked in on some soldiers holding one down while another teabagged the one being held down. Finally,
Basically there's a disavowed homoeroticism, one that has to be kept hidden in order for the status quo to succeed. A gay rapper terrifies a lot of people because they would take all that unconscious homoeroticism and make it consciously obvious, bringing it out into the open.
Then he gets into some stuff about hazing in the Yugoslav People's Army and how he walked in on some soldiers holding one down while another teabagged the one being held down. Finally,
Basically there's a disavowed homoeroticism, one that has to be kept hidden in order for the status quo to succeed. A gay rapper terrifies a lot of people because they would take all that unconscious homoeroticism and make it consciously obvious, bringing it out into the open.
I've never heard of that poster before and have only been to London once as a prepubescent child. There is demonry in the air, friend. Let's not listen to random trolls we've never heard of over friends, friend.
Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
Good article but smfh at mentioning the Jurassic 5 in the same sentence with Tribe and De La.
Whether this is overtly homoerotic is questionable, but there is no doubt that the continued devaluing of romantic feelings, whilst simultaneously elevating male friendships, has led to some seriously blurred lines.
"Homies over hoes..."
This is why I'm not all up in arms about the "white & gay" invasion of Rap. We've been courting these "problems" for a long time, in Hip-Hop.
"Homies over hoes..."
This is why I'm not all up in arms about the "white & gay" invasion of Rap. We've been courting these "problems" for a long time, in Hip-Hop.
Whether this is overtly homoerotic is questionable, but there is no doubt that the continued devaluing of romantic feelings, whilst simultaneously elevating male friendships, has led to some seriously blurred lines.
"Homies over hoes..."
This is why I'm not all up in arms about the "white & gay" invasion of Rap. We've been courting these "problems" for a long time, in Hip-Hop.
This is exactly what McGruder was talking about. A lot of confused people here think he was prophecizing the "gay invasion" of hip-hop and cosigning homophobia. His actual point, that hip-hop has been homoerotic, and that the culture contains this confused mixture of gay and anti-gay, goes completely over their heads.
don't want to willingly accept the agenda?, cool, we'll just tell you how you been supporting it anyway because LL licks his lips a lot and men still purchased his albums, so obviously some of you men subconsciously liked it too.
Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
And I loved what they said about women basically have to be men, in order to be >hoe, bytch
The number one reason female rappers can't win. 90% of 'em (Remy Ma [to a small extent], Kim, Foxy) were bussin' guns, selling drugs & hyper-sexual, to get a mainstream look or they have to be pop (Nikki).
Sam Peel
Banned
these battyman have lots of trickery friend. they are truly mentally disturbed, but it's normal mate.don't want to willingly accept the agenda?, cool, we'll just tell you how you been supporting it anyway because LL licks his lips a lot and men still purchased his albums, so obviously some of you men subconsciously liked it too.
There's a lot wrong with that article. Almost every point or example made was either a questionable one, or outright false.
---It starts off saying that after DeLa, Tribe, etc there has been one accepted narrow vision of the black rapper, and thats a hyper masculine one. What???? Drake, Tyga, Weezy are hyper masculine now?
--- The author tries to make some point about how appealing to women is somehow exclusively hip hop, and that rock artists dont perform or pose with their shirts off? WTF????? Thats aggressively false. Male rockers have been appealing to women for decades.
---- I cant believe Im addressing this song in such a way, but 'Aint no fun' doesnt necessarily imply group sex. I guess it could be inferred, but I always took it to mean that you want the female to be a bopper, and go from nikka to nikka individually. Like if she comes around if a nikka from the crew wants her, then she needs to bust it wide open and shes nobody's girl in particular.
---The biggie sht was during the era of gangster rap, where the industry was trying to market abject nihilism, and not necessarily gender confusion, although that was an outcome of that --- women gangsters.
--- P diddy saying "we were more than lovers, we were like brothers" is homoerotic? What was he supposed to say to indicate how close they were....we were like sisters?
Article is terrible.
---It starts off saying that after DeLa, Tribe, etc there has been one accepted narrow vision of the black rapper, and thats a hyper masculine one. What???? Drake, Tyga, Weezy are hyper masculine now?
--- The author tries to make some point about how appealing to women is somehow exclusively hip hop, and that rock artists dont perform or pose with their shirts off? WTF????? Thats aggressively false. Male rockers have been appealing to women for decades.
---- I cant believe Im addressing this song in such a way, but 'Aint no fun' doesnt necessarily imply group sex. I guess it could be inferred, but I always took it to mean that you want the female to be a bopper, and go from nikka to nikka individually. Like if she comes around if a nikka from the crew wants her, then she needs to bust it wide open and shes nobody's girl in particular.
---The biggie sht was during the era of gangster rap, where the industry was trying to market abject nihilism, and not necessarily gender confusion, although that was an outcome of that --- women gangsters.
--- P diddy saying "we were more than lovers, we were like brothers" is homoerotic? What was he supposed to say to indicate how close they were....we were like sisters?
Article is terrible.
Me too, until I read the rest and thought about it.
We get it twisted about the hyper-masculine image.
It isn't just the Rick Rosses and other (overtly) gun toting rappers.
Drake, Tyga, Kanye, Big Sean are all seen as "soft" by some of us, but, they too tow that "homies over hoes" line & make woman out to be notches to show other men and even play the "tough guy" in their rhymes, at times.
It's All The Same, to me.
c/s
But, I'll give it a pass, because, it's a very brief article.
Very true.
Every Tyga verse is about his penis and guns. Same with Lil Wayne (overt referenses to oral sex with women, he's still dealin drugs [in his rhymes]. Drake went through that transformation where he was Best I Ever Had, Fancy Drake to 3 AM In Dallas, Headlines (Video with goons in black, "Catch A Body Like That") Drake. He's the biggest artist in Rap, but, still felt the pressure not to be "soft."
And, no; ain't no woman like your brother. Yes, you don't have to be a woman to have a sister. What about lady friend or wife, b?
lol @ trying to defend the sanctity of group sex.
Mr. Somebody
Friend Of A Friend
I wont give it a pass because it ignores some very crucial information. Like why this behavior exists in the first place. I was listening to hiphop lyrics yesterday friend and a rapper said.
Don't be out showin' your teeth
nikkas'll think s#it is sweet
I think hyper masculinity is a defense mechanism for living in a dangerous environment and carries over into aspects of life where it isnt needed. For homosexuals in particular, i think they would use these attitudes to a greater degree because by default they are seen as weak and disgusting by the heterosexual population so in an effort to survive and fit in, they take on hyper masculinity.
Its so demonic, friend.
