Again, I was a fan of No Limit even after it was no longer "cool" to be a fan. No Limit and CMR definitely made it's mark on Hip Hop. The thing is neither No Limit, CMR, or Dungeon Family put The South on the map. Saying so implies that Geto Boys, UGK, Eightball & MJG, and 2 Live Crew didn't exist. What Dungeon Family did do, however is break new ground musically and made people look at the South differently. Dungeon Family was already puttin' on for The South when No Limit was still reppin' the West hard. Not only were they making Southern anthems, but they also made it a point that they weren't taking any disrespect from those who talked down on The South. They were saying that on "Myintroletuknow" off the first album. OutKast was doing this on a major level to the point where they were defending the entire South on a main stage years before Master P or No Limit was a thing. Revisionist history is making it like No Limit and CMR opened up all these doors for The South, when that door was already kicked it before they even impacted.
No Limit and CMR weren't doing anything that was different from what Geto Boys, Eightball & MJG, and 2 Live Crew were doing. No Limit and CMR were more so novelty acts than Kast, Geto Boys, and Eightball & MJG. That's evidenced by how quickly so called No Limit fans jumped ship and started riding with CMR.
What you're trying to do is boost No Limit and CMR to a plateau that they just weren't on.
1st off, let me say, i have a thread with your name on it - not literally, but a thread that you'll luv. watch your tags.
how am i trying to boost no limit & cash money to a plateau that they werent on when theyre by far the 2 most popular entities to ever come out of the south????? the only one doing the boosting is yall trying to boost outkast. if they were anyhere near as popular & impactful as no limit & CMR, not only would yall be trying to rewrite rap history, but yall would start trying to rewrite scriptures in hopes of including them into the BIBLE.
UGK, 8ball & MJG were regional breh. they shouldnt be getting mentioned AT ALL right now. this is the problem, and this is not a diss, but youre too much of an A and B thinker. you have to be able to think critically when you talk about these things.
i never said no limit put the south on the map. and im not even the one that brought cash money into the convo.
BOTTOM LINE:
1. 2 live crew put the south on the map
2. rap-a-lot solidified it in terms of being known for more than just so-called booty music.
3. no limit wasnt the first but they were easily the biggest pioneers of them all. they broke the south in as a viable region comparable to the east & west. and they opened up the floodgates for more south rappers to make noise nationally. look at all the south rappers & labels that got deals & pushes off the strength of what no limit did. they literally changed the landscape of hip-hop, all while being independent and never shoved down the public's throats. these dudes even did a nationwide SPORTS ARENA tour with just their own artists during a period when these types of tours were scarce, even with very little acknowledgement from the media. to this day, theres never been a south tour like that. i could go on & on with their resume actually. its ridiculous what they accomplished, especially considering that the powers-that-be behind the curtain wanted them gone.
4. if there was a mt rushmore for the south, it would have to include master p, j.prince, luke skywalker, and the 4th one would be the birdman. and this is where cash money comes in. they came thru on no limit's back and they owe no limit for that. but they did a better job of fitting into east coast culture and urban mainstream culture, basically etching the south's place in stone.
there were other acts that broke thru in the midst of this,that did their thing but they couldve easily never existed and nothing wouldve been different without them. thats not to say that they werent good or didnt have their own run, but they didnt move the needle FOR THE SOUTH. dungeon family had their own lane(s) and they milked it but it didnt benefit the south. then its guys like jermaine dupri(who im a fan of, btw) who had a great run, but is sour because he doesnt get props as a pioneer. and granted, he should be getting more props for atlanta, but in terms of advancing the south as a region, the guy couldve easily just been from jersey or somewhere and did what he did. he was moreso puff's main competitor for the clubs. he just didnt move the needle FOR THE SOUTH and i say this as a fan.
so when i say the same thing about dungeon family, its not because im a hater. it just is what it is. people just want to label me as a hater because it goes against their false beliefs and they cant structure a legit argument.
