best new group but okWhen Pac,BIG,Wu and all those other groups were in their prime Kast won Hip Hop album of the year at the Source awards....i know thats not the end all be all but if you go to those days in time it means alot
nikkas rank Kast high on lists of rap groups... he can keep trying to up this faggity thread that's a year in a half old all he wants... it won't change nikkas opinions... he's already admitted he didn't really even listen to Kast like that.. what's hilarious to me is this clown acts like he was in every part of the country to know who was bumping what in every single hood... next he's going to say that Outkast getting best hip hop whatever at the source that year was some sort of conspiracy agenda.... nikkas talkin bout someone wants to rewrite history. . WHY?? WHAT WOULD BE THE PURPOSE??But ask an average listener of hip hop who all of them groups are. They won't know any of them. Ask if they know Outkast and they do whether they like them or not. That's crossover right there, reaching out to an average listener of music. They don't have just a core fan base in the south. They have millions of fans across the world. They have an impact on hip-hop and I've heard plenty who don't like them still say they had a huge impact on the game. I don't think you understand what they accomplished. I think you misunderstand about blowing up . I'm talking about the fact that they don't have just one or 2 platinum albums. All of them are. They have sold 25 million records. 2 live is not even close. Idk what you are arguing about anymore. I'm just saying that OutKast has more impact on mainstream rap than any other group from the south. Ever notice how back in the day it was all east coast and west coast. Right around the turn of the century, when Outkast was in their prime, is when the South started getting a lot more play from other regions. Now for influence all of the other groups best them out but on impact alone, I'm sorry but nolists are just industry chit. you dudes keep taking the bait.
plenty of rap artists sold millions without having a big presence in hip-hop.
as for the originality thing, they came out sounding like souls of mischief's country cousins, for starters. and @Art Barr broke down the rest a few days ago. so lets not talk in circles.
no limit records blew the south up. TRU is the run dmc of the south. they did what outkast failed miserably at doing, despite the machine they had behind them.
if you want to talk about crossover. south groups that crossed over before kast existed:
ABC
kriss kross -
arrested development - they won grammys and sold a chitload of albums. and everything yall brag about outkast doing is stuff that AD did immediately. they accomplished in 1 album, what took outkast an entire decade and a genre-switch to accomplish. plus they piggy-backed off a lot of the stuff that AD did, followed half of their blueprint and basically inherited their fanbase.
those 3 groups are all from Atlanta, btw.
in terms of blowing up nationally - 2 live crew was the 1st
in terms of being critically acclaimed - have you ever heard of the geto boys?
these groups were out long before outkast
kast aint do chit really. they were just a dope group that you either rocked with or you didn't. if youre a fan, then fine. but all this goat talk is laughable. I seriously look at anybody funny that gasses them up as such on here.
Dude said TRU is the Run DMC of the South
nikkas talking about outkast being super original stems from all of their albums being completely different from one another... I don't know why yall still trying to debate with this clown @Wacky D .. he's already been sonned to oblivion throuout the thread.. its like okay breh, we get
But ask an average listener of hip hop who all of them groups are. They won't know any of them. Ask if they know Outkast and they do whether they like them or not. That's crossover right there, reaching out to an average listener of music. They don't have just a core fan base in the south. They have millions of fans across the world. They have an impact on hip-hop and I've heard plenty who don't like them still say they had a huge impact on the game. I don't think you understand what they accomplished. I think you misunderstand about blowing up . I'm talking about the fact that they don't have just one or 2 platinum albums. All of them are. They have sold 25 million records. 2 live is not even close. Idk what you are arguing about anymore. I'm just saying that OutKast has more impact on mainstream rap than any other group from the south. Ever notice how back in the day it was all east coast and west coast. Right around the turn of the century, when Outkast was in their prime, is when the South started getting a lot more play from other regions. Now for influence all of the other groups best them out but on impact alone, I'm sorry but no
No Kriss Kross is not a bigger household name, never. And again I'm saying average listener as in someone who only listens to the radio or only the big hyped up rappers. They wouldn't know 2 live crew or Geto Boys but they would know Outkast. If you're denying any impact from Outkast on hip hop then you are delusional and it is a waste of my time to argue with you
