...since forever. It might not be exclusively HipHop but RS is a respected music magazine.
outkast fans yall.
Reasons Why Outkast Will Never Be Seen As GOAT Contenders By Most Real Heads
- Thread starter Wacky D
- Start date
outkast fans yall.
but you have to put together a suitable resume in real-time FIRST & FOREMOST.
otherwise, its just a bunch of johny-come-latelys, picking up on an artist years after the fact and trying to boost up their legacy with no sense of history or perspective.
that's what we call revisionist history. REMEMBER I SAID THAT.
Last edited:
no
it just proves that wacky d is the goat.
check my resume homie. these numbers are nothing new for me.
That ain't how it works. Nobody is going to be hailed as a GOAT in real time. It goes back to my Illmatic example. In 1994, Illmatic wasn't an album that people were propping as GOAT. There were bigger albums and many would probably consider it blasphemous to put Illmatic over Doggystyle. Over time, Illmatic became an album that was put in the pantheon of GOAT Hip Hop albums to nearly becoming the GOAT Hip Hop album. Documentaries were made, on Internet forums, that album is sacred. And yes, Johnny come latelys have this album as GOAT even though they didn't become Nas fans until he became mainstream.
Legacies are created over time. That is why some artists and albums are timeless vs being a fad that was hot in real time, but ages horribly.
Saying a group is GOAT isn't revisionist history. Revisionist history would be someone saying OutKast was the biggest rap group in 1994.
Magnum P.I.M.P.
Tumultuous Splendor
Lock thread.
daboywonder2002
Superstar
I gotta disagree with this one. The source propped it as GOAT by giving it 5 mics. I love Illmatic, but I do feel that the Source co sign helped make ILLMATIC the classic it is.
youre ruining your argument with these piss-poor examples.
doggystyle & illmatic were seen as all-time great albums upon release.
and again youre proving my point with that last comment. '94 was outkast's most popular year, culturally. and it was far from goat-like.
it helped, but it was legitimate.
fast forward to when outkast got 5 mics, and nobody cared.
You are missing the point. Illmatic was slept on in 1994. It was nowhere near what Doggystyle was, which was already influencing music and culture all over. Illmatic didn't become this mythical, untouchable album that people create documentaries for and have people hailing it is GOAT until long after Nas blew up. There were several albums in 1994 that were bigger and far more popular in 1994 than Illmatic. Over time, Illmatic has eclipsed those albums (even Doggystyle). My point was: it is not revision that a work or artist becomes more appreciated over time than they were in real time.
And yes, OutKast was bigger than Nas in 1994 if we're keeping it 100 and again that is my point. A lot of those albums that were bigger ended up being eclipsed by Illmatic. And 1994 wasn't Kast's biggest year culturally.
you always get commercial success confused with hip-hop status.
illmatic was slept-on commercially. it wasn't a mainstream success. but it was held in ultra high-regard in hip-hop IN REAL-TIME.
with strictly the hip-hop crowd, outkast's biggest year was '94. but naw, they weren't bigger than nas in that realm.
these net nerds keep tip-toeing around this tho.
the reason why none of them responded to you.
Acting like Migos and Future aren’t some of the biggest acts in music rn
migos don't dress like them.
future looks like he might be getting there eventually. he wouldn't count anyway, since he used to be in DF.