REALEST EBRO RANT on Hot97: No One Cares About The Plight Of Men

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

As someone who just went through the process of not having a job straight after graduating, I completely agree with Ebro. Those days where you're feeling low wondering if you'll ever get the career you've worked so hard for and youre genuinely unhappy, you realise that besides your parents and close family, no gives a fukk about you. You literally have moments where you wish your phone would ring so you could have someone to talk to but it never does.

Fast forward a few months and you're now in your dream job earning more money than all of your peers and all of a sudden your phone rings a lot more than you ever thought it would. Sure, the attention is nice but you know it's not real.

I mean thats the way it always is. Especially as you get older. Thats why u have to keep how u value that attention, as well as the status that job affords you, in check.

High key what really defines u is how u adapt to adversity... I was in a similar situation, and looking back what bums me out the most now isn't not having friends or w/e (though I was going through a breakup too, surprise surprise)... it's all the MISSED OPPORTUNITIES I passed on during that time. Knowing what I know now I could have done so much more with that year or so off. But in any case if u take adversity as an opportunity to learn and grow instead of a time to dwell on a better time in the past shyt will always get better.

 

[Aceofspades404]

As someone who just went through the process of not having a job straight after graduating, I completely agree with Ebro. Those days where you're feeling low wondering if you'll ever get the career you've worked so hard for and youre genuinely unhappy, you realise that besides your parents and close family, no gives a fukk about you. You literally have moments where you wish your phone would ring so you could have someone to talk to but it never does.

Fast forward a few months and you're now in your dream job earning more money than all of your peers and all of a sudden your phone rings a lot more than you ever thought it would. Sure, the attention is nice but you know it's not real.

This was pretty much my exact situation and if I made a thread about my plight as a black woman, the majority of you wouldn't give a shyt. I can't recall how many times I've read on this board that a woman should never be broke insinuating that she exchanges sex for money. Even half of you were telling that stripper chick to go back to stripping after she tried her hand at earning a modest income. It's funny how the same device black men use to deflect the intersectionality experience within black women is the very same device that has resulted in your "plight". Now don't get me wrong, I'm not negating anything you said, I was simply bringing light to the current system at play and while I do think society should remain a patriarchy, there are a lot of flaws in the system and you cannot only want to fix the flaws that affect you as a man while keeping certain institutions that negatively affect women.

Pretty much, at one point I was a simp years ago, I'm happy I lost everything my health, a job, money, women and had to rebuild myself by my lonesome. Majority of ppl r fake as hell. In a time of need nowhere to be found, but when you have surplus there around .

As a man its suck it up and get over it. That's why I only have a few ppl in my life and I thank God he weeded out the rest.

Breh, no one cares unless you're a white woman.

A lot of Black men deal with mild to severe forms of depression over the course of their life.

It's natural when living in an environment hostile to your very existence.

When you say depression is natural to black men bc of the environment that is hostile to your very existence, you are insinuating that there is a "false plight" for black women. You think Anne was less depressed seeing her husband getting lynched than her getting raped day in and day out by that very same slave master? Again, not disagreeing with you but just want to add on. Depression is very serious in the black community period. We as black ppl do too much bickering on whose plight is worse. One individual cannot measure the severity of someone else's plights based on their own experiences. Now, I only believe this theory is applicable to blacks (and other minorities but not on the same scale). If you're white, idgaf.

 

[drugxglory]

She gave him 60 days.

60 days, brehs.

He's holding down his woman for a year and a half.



And everybody understands. It's a mother. Pregnancy. A year and a half. Nobody blinks an eye.

But he loses his job and ol girl in the studio said 2 months.

A job he had for 25 yrs

 

[The Mad Titan]

Damn some of yall "I'ma real man as nikka's" need to get checked. Ole hyperbolic chamber ass nikkas, it aint about wanting to cry, or moan or express your feelings when you get upset. It's about being able to when you NEED too, and the mental pressure of that weighting on you day to day for your whole life.


Alot of yall walking around with your chest poking out feeling like you winning but your actually sociopaths with some unrealistic twisted view of what it is to be a man. In essence your as bad as these women.


Be a man, work hard, be strong be a rock for you and your family. But damn it when ish gets stressful you should be able to talk to someone that's going to understand and not judge you. You ever wonder why mother son relationships are so close? Its because they are the pinnacle of how and what you should get out of a relationship with a person and especially a woman... Most mothers love and are there for there son no matter what they have done or are going through. They never make them feel like less of a man, and most men never find that kind of acceptance anywhere else in there life and thats why they keep there mothers so close.

 

[MikelArteta]

A job he had for 25 yrs

cats laugh when i said you should take a week off from work and tell your girl you lost your job to see how she reacts

many of these brehettes dont love you just what you offer, status oh jim is working at doing so and so desirability, oh everyone wants jim but i have him

security money etc.

but rarely you as a person
i always remmeber when i was in the hospital over and over again that experience weeded out so many friends

just like their queen bae sings, they can have another you in a minute

once in a while you'll find one of those gems who will hold you down in any situation though

 

[Marl0 Stanfield]

Everyone see black men as cruel and criminal and violent and angry and almost beast like.

I've lost count of how many people have crossed to the other side of the street when they see me approaching them on the sidewalk...cause they too scared to share the same sidewalk cause they're afraid I'll rape em or rob em or kill em. One day I had 6 people do this to me in the span of less than 30 minutes.

even though I have no criminal record.
Even though no one even knows me or gets to know me. Or talk to me. Or see me for who I really am.
Even though I am quite possibly the most easy going coolest down to earth person you'll ever meet in real life.

Don't even get me started on women...I've been just minding my own business just doing my thing and women get scared as fukk when they see me.

All of this is why I'm just cold as fukk and seriously fukking hate people.
Why should I even have common courtesy for anyone? I almost want to be a fukking dikk to everyone cause I'm always the recipient of negative energy.

People are shyt...fukk EM!
This is why I'd rather be a loner.
This is why I just have my small circle of friends and that's it.
This is why I don't really talk to women.
This is why I hate people.

A man like me doesn't get the benefit of the doubt and doesnt even get the chance to be seen as "safe" or "non-threatening"...even though I would never harm a fly.

For a while I did feel inhuman. Like a savage. Just ugly. Unloved. Unfukking cared for. Hated by everyone. Just a piece of shyt that society wanted to flush down the toilet.

That's the rage and anger I've held in my heart and my frame for the past 30 years...fukk this goddamn society!I can't wait for the day it's fukking destroyed violently!

Yeah I was in that space and translated it to isolation, then sociopathic association which led to violence. My early to mid twenties was spent in a depression, rage ternt inwards, in my late twenties to 30, last year, was spent in an "expression", rage ternt outwards. But I used my intelligence to avoid having a psychotic break, or a fragmentation of personalities, to process trauma. I replace outer circles of friends quickly and get hard to find but I'll be on the other side of town kicking it with different ppl.

I jernt this shyt instead of just lurking for rap/political nikka news because I have more down time cuz I only party on the weekends now n I'm not getting into any relationships until my whoppity whop comes thru n I can get with a mid lvl mgmt chick. Where I live there's a lotta chicks getting it but they're real sneaky unless they come from a good family with at least two generations of adults living an upper middle class lifestyle.

Sorry to say but irl world a family's generational "wealth" n social standing usually decides morals of its members. I don't come from that. It's my responsibility to protect myself against those that would hinder me from attaining generational "wealth" ie upper middle class for Black folx, ie ngaz making $150k a yr or better on average in the family.

But being all angry is retarded, bro. I realized that. Do u make decent money? Like not living with ma dux money? If so, u get u some men's magazine's, get urself groomed up. If ur black, get a goddamned caesar wave cut n keep ur beard trimmed nice. If ur white, get a haircut that makes some sense and stop trying to be an ironic jerkoff. Ur already a screwball, wtf would u then go and LOOK like the jerkoff u feel like that's fcking w/ u?

Mfka go to the mall n spend $100 on shirts n slacks n jeans that are IN STYLE. They ain't gotta be expensive but they have to make some damn sense. Get a fckng Polo n slim jeans with some Air Max n go to a bar with ur boys n focus on not being a jerkoff n watch hoes start looking. AND FOR GOD'S SAKE WEAR SOME FCKING COLOGNE.

Sit at a table n catch a chick's eye n go ask her what her favorite drink is. When she tells u, play like u going to the bar half a step n dbl back n say "Oh my name is Jerkoff, what's your name, baby/cutie/beautiful/lovely/goofy/whatev cutesy non weirdo shyt u can call her?

If she's with some friends, u already get the money together to go to the bar with everyone's share of the money n u and a partner walk up to them and pull the routine together. U get all their names, u n ur partner go to the bar/get a waitress to come take y'all's orders, n u come back n kick it with them or have them come over to ur section and chill together. Make sure no one is looking like a jrkoff. And u know what I mean. nikkaz should be looking basic good n smelling good (FOR GOD'S SAKE DON'T DRESS ALIKE OR USE THE SAME COLOGNE).

And don't start getting into convos with chix n start acting like u do on the Coli n go into psycho jrkoff Don Lemon/Keith Olbermann/Sean Hannity mode. Fragment ur personality to make ur social life out with hoes tolerant n enjoyable. Wtf do u think u see the biggest jrkoffs doing things with their ladies from time to time? It's not being a sucka, it's fragmenting ur personality to be able to be tolerant and open to different things with certain individuals. Eventually when u meet a woman that u want for real, u learn to blend the fragmented pieces to form a new u, that gets its light to shine n reflect on ur world from the burning star of all of ur past, good and bad, being burned to shine a light forward where ur in the in crowd n ur in ctrl.

U already have psychopathic tendencies. Study corporate psychopathy and act accordingly. Be a chameleon and adapt n delight in conquering ppl to get what u want. Anything beats sitting there being angry, or just turning into that jrkff Aurora shooter. Too many hoes out here dumb as fukk trying to get chose by a nikka with Starter Kit clothes n nice cologne to be sitting there upset. You should be gettin it.

 

[InDePickWest]

That's yall fault. Yall love patriarchy when it benefits ya'll (women are seen as less, men are heard and listened to, women are silenced) but wanna act all emotional when it works against you (yall cant show basic human emotions, gota work till you die or you'll be seen a freeloader, gotta remain strong through hard times and cant talk about it or a woman will think less of you).

One Mic or Oochie Wallie brehs ​

 

[Marl0 Stanfield]

Damn some of yall "I'ma real man as nikka's" need to get checked. Ole hyperbolic chamber ass nikkas, it aint about wanting to cry, or moan or express your feelings when you get upset. It's about being able to when you NEED too, and the mental pressure of that weighting on you day to day for your whole life.


Alot of yall walking around with your chest poking out feeling like you winning but your actually sociopaths with some unrealistic twisted view of what it is to be a man. In essence your as bad as these women.


Be a man, work hard, be strong be a rock for you and your family. But damn it when ish gets stressful you should be able to talk to someone that's going to understand and not judge you. You ever wonder why mother son relationships are so close? Its because they are the pinnacle of how and what you should get out of a relationship with a person and especially a woman... Most mothers love and are there for there son no matter what they have done or are going through. They never make them feel like less of a man, and most men never find that kind of acceptance anywhere else in there life and thats why they keep there mothers so close.

No, we're saying it's a sociopathic system and if u don't wanna get down then don't, don't sit around crying like a jerkoff then run around protesting and trying to change laws to mandate everyone else treat u like a jerkoff. Nobody gives a shyt about ur feelings except ur mother m that's only cuz she can't disconnect herself from u. The rest of these mfkas are on the board for a season. If u wanna be all vulnerable n shyt then do that. But don't be on here lashing out trying to call nikkaz sociopaths cuz they want ctrl over their life and don't want pity from a hoe. U go get pity from a hoe.

shyt, tell ur fukking boss u need to take a break from work for "emotional reasons" and watch how tf u look at work when u come back and then tell me about sociopaths. nikkaz wanna cry about not having ctrl of the wheel so much that they wanna try n shame the nikkaz driving, which only makes the nikkaz driving kick ur dumb ass from the front to the back seat, complaining n crying with the hoes.

Ain't nothing wrong with that, get it how u live, but if u wanna kick it with the nikkaz up front u gotta act like an up front nikka. Don't be crying n complaining cuz non complaining ass nikkaz don't want ur emo ass in the front seat. Just be happy in the back. When I was a backseat nikka, I stayed in the backseat.

When I stopped complaining like a hoe and yelping like a hit dog every time shyt didn't go my way I got closer to the wheel. U can tell who the backseat nikkaz are on here cuz they take this shyt literally n start whining and complaining if u say some insensitive shyt or something they disagree with.

That's why the neg/snitch shyt is funny. It immediately reveals who the backseat complaining ass nikkaz are. I bet them hoe ass nikkaz wish they could neg rep/snitch to a mod on their boss who's riding their ass n their girl who's disrespectful as fukk.

 

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

Yeah I was in that space and translated it to isolation, then sociopathic association which led to violence. My early to mid twenties was spent in a depression, rage ternt inwards, in my late twenties to 30, last year, was spent in an "expression", rage ternt outwards. But I used my intelligence to avoid having a psychotic break, or a fragmentation of personalities, to process trauma. I replace outer circles of friends quickly and get hard to find but I'll be on the other side of town kicking it with different ppl.

I jernt this shyt instead of just lurking for rap/political nikka news because I have more down time cuz I only party on the weekends now n I'm not getting into any relationships until my whoppity whop comes thru n I can get with a mid lvl mgmt chick. Where I live there's a lotta chicks getting it but they're real sneaky unless they come from a good family with at least two generations of adults living an upper middle class lifestyle.

Sorry to say but irl world a family's generational "wealth" n social standing usually decides morals of its members. I don't come from that. It's my responsibility to protect myself against those that would hinder me from attaining generational "wealth" ie upper middle class for Black folx, ie ngaz making $150k a yr or better on average in the family.

But being all angry is retarded, bro. I realized that. Do u make decent money? Like not living with ma dux money? If so, u get u some men's magazine's, get urself groomed up. If ur black, get a goddamned caesar wave cut n keep ur beard trimmed nice. If ur white, get a haircut that makes some sense and stop trying to be an ironic jerkoff. Ur already a screwball, wtf would u then go and LOOK like the jerkoff u feel like that's fcking w/ u?

Mfka go to the mall n spend $100 on shirts n slacks n jeans that are IN STYLE. They ain't gotta be expensive but they have to make some damn sense. Get a fckng Polo n slim jeans with some Air Max n go to a bar with ur boys n focus on not being a jerkoff n watch hoes start looking. AND FOR GOD'S SAKE WEAR SOME FCKING COLOGNE.

Sit at a table n catch a chick's eye n go ask her what her favorite drink is. When she tells u, play like u going to the bar half a step n dbl back n say "Oh my name is Jerkoff, what's your name, baby/cutie/beautiful/lovely/goofy/whatev cutesy non weirdo shyt u can call her?

If she's with some friends, u already get the money together to go to the bar with everyone's share of the money n u and a partner walk up to them and pull the routine together. U get all their names, u n ur partner go to the bar/get a waitress to come take y'all's orders, n u come back n kick it with them or have them come over to ur section and chill together. Make sure no one is looking like a jrkoff. And u know what I mean. nikkaz should be looking basic good n smelling good (FOR GOD'S SAKE DON'T DRESS ALIKE OR USE THE SAME COLOGNE).

And don't start getting into convos with chix n start acting like u do on the Coli n go into psycho jrkoff Don Lemon/Keith Olbermann/Sean Hannity mode. Fragment ur personality to make ur social life out with hoes tolerant n enjoyable. Wtf do u think u see the biggest jrkoffs doing things with their ladies from time to time? It's not being a sucka, it's fragmenting ur personality to be able to be tolerant and open to different things with certain individuals. Eventually when u meet a woman that u want for real, u learn to blend the fragmented pieces to form a new u, that gets its light to shine n reflect on ur world from the burning star of all of ur past, good and bad, being burned to shine a light forward where ur in the in crowd n ur in ctrl.

U already have psychopathic tendencies. Study corporate psychopathy and act accordingly. Be a chameleon and adapt n delight in conquering ppl to get what u want. Anything beats sitting there being angry, or just turning into that jrkff Aurora shooter. Too many hoes out here dumb as fukk trying to get chose by a nikka with Starter Kit clothes n nice cologne to be sitting there upset. You should be gettin it.

Thanks for assuming you know me from the internet. But let me tell you a little bit about myself.

-I'm the son of African/West Indian parents.
-I'm 30 years old.
-I actually come from money....my folks live in a very affluent and very white neighborhood.
-I went to private schools all my life where there were less than 20 black people in it total.
-I'm from Pittsburgh, PA but now live in Brooklyn, NY.
-I've been skateboarding for 25 years.
-I wear glasses
-I've been called a nerd, oreo, urkel, white boy, sellout by other black people in Pittsburgh.
-I DJ and make music in my spare time
-I used to be in a hardcore punk band from 1999-2001
-I own about 60 pairs of sneakers and shoes...
-I know alot about fashion, I actually design t-shirts, hoodies, and skateboard graphics...

Actually I'm done explaining mysself, this is the shyt I hate about internet forum communication...people just assume they know you from walls of text but only you know you and only you can know yourself better than anyone else knows you. Automatically assuming that I'm like that fatherless hood nikka that grew up in the projects that lives to go to the club every weekend...why should I explain myself to you? I'm not you. You dont' even know me or know what I look like, al you have is an internet screen handle and an avi featuring renowned early 20th century artist Frida Khalo to go on.

And I really don't want to take ANYBODY's advice on women on here...again...I'm NOT YOU! I know myself. I get in where I fit in. I've already had my successes with women..

you know what? I'm done breh...I don't even feel like typing anymore. I just came in here to vent...and I get this...whatever. This is giving me a fukking headache.

 

[Still Benefited]

I don't see how this is different than womens "plight"....women don't really care about other womens problems either,they just want to hear the gossip,and it WILL be used against them later by those same women worse than they would they man....and women unfortunately cant read body language,and don't take mens one word answers as a sign we don't give a fukk about they problems,or have no clue what to say.

Women have the same plight they are just blessed to be ignorant and not know I guess....On the flipside as a man I'm blessed to not to have the emotions of a woman...never felt the need to tell people I know don't care about my problems my problems,or people that do care actually.

But if you don't have nobody who cares about you in your life outside of money,first of all your family aint shyt,the people you chose in your life aint shyt or you aint shyt

On the other hand maybe people know you well and believe you are you pretended to be....If you pretended to be a proud man who doesn't need or want help that aint ALWAYS your familys fault...sometimes they just honoring who you are,or at least who they THINK you are based off what you showed em.

I guess I understand people who do need to tell sumbody they emotions seeing this as a plight,but a plight for me would be people asking me about my problems...Most people who are emotional where they hearts on they sleeve though,so I wonder how many of you complaining about YOUR plight,bother to proactively give support or ask other men about they problems? I can tell when my people fukked up and acting different and i reach out,and they have no problem opening up to me.

 

[Marl0 Stanfield]

Thanks for assuming you know me from the internet. But let me tell you a little bit about myself.

-I'm the son of African/West Indian parents.
-I'm 30 years old.
-I actually come from money....my folks live in a very affluent and very white neighborhood.
-I went to private schools all my life where there were less than 20 black people in it total.
-I'm from Pittsburgh, PA but now live in Brooklyn, NY.
-I've been skateboarding for 25 years.
-I wear glasses
-I've been called a nerd, oreo, urkel, white boy, sellout by other black people in Pittsburgh.
-I DJ and make music in my spare time
-I used to be in a hardcore punk band from 1999-2001
-I own about 60 pairs of sneakers and shoes...
-I know alot about fashion, I actually design t-shirts, hoodies, and skateboard graphics...

Actually I'm done explaining mysself, this is the shyt I hate about internet forum communication...people just assume they know you from walls of text but only you know you and only you can know yourself better than anyone else knows you. Automatically assuming that I'm like that fatherless hood nikka that grew up in the projects that lives to go to the club every weekend...why should I explain myself to you? I'm not you. You dont' even know me or know what I look like, al you have is an internet screen handle and an avi featuring renowned early 20th century artist Frida Khalo to go on.

And I really don't want to take ANYBODY's advice on women on here...again...I'm NOT YOU! I know myself. I get in where I fit in. I've already had my successes with women..

you know what? I'm done breh...I don't even feel like typing anymore. I just came in here to vent...and I get this...whatever. This is giving me a fukking headache.

You should commit that or get back on ur meds. Going on a forum full of strangers yelling about how nikkaz don't know u is jerkoff behavior. Absolutely no one gives a shyt. Mfkas got their own issues, much less be worrying about a stranger who starts lashing out on a goddamned forum.

Try talking to the wackest Woody Harrelson ass bartender n if he ain't trying to game u for drinx he'll eventually pull a Patton n tell u to suck it up n stop fukking whining. That's the way the world works, buddy. A bunch of bartenders who are either using sympathy to run ur pockets, or telling u to stfu so they can hear the tv.

Jfc, wtf do u angry a$$holes think psychologists are rich? Ain't a fukker in the world bout to listen to some angry a$$hole with a chip on his shoulder for free. And they have law enforcement for when ur dumb ass decides to wig out and go full retard. nikkaz will hug ur moms at the funeral and then get in an argument over where to have brunch after they bury ur weirdo ass.

If u don't wanna look like a jerkoff, then it helps not to publicize or seek advice from non professionals about ur jerkoff problems. Ur on a goddamned forum talking about being mad, like nikkaz supposed to try n calm u down over the net. Then nikkaz try n respond n u start whining about how no one knows u (no shyt, dunsky). nikkaz are either gonna get in the game n learn to work well with others or they gonna commit dat.

But all this storming around like a bull in a china closet just makes bros who see something in u think ur a jerkoff and walk tf away. shyt has nothing to do with money, it's about using common sense and either getting on meds to be normal, stop acting like a jerkoff on ur own, or commit that.

I wish I had known u come from money, I could've looked at ur posting history and ran game on ur angry ass n got u to finance some baller ass extravaganzas. nikkaz coulda been renting goddamned tour buses going from city to city with ur Black Kurt Cobain ass in the back listening to Immortal Technique and yelling into the mirror while we reenact Freaknik.

 

[FemiO]

That's yall fault. Yall love patriarchy when it benefits ya'll (women are seen as less, men are heard and listened to, women are silenced) but wanna act all emotional when it works against you (yall cant show basic human emotions, gota work till you die or you'll be seen a freeloader, gotta remain strong through hard times and cant talk about it or a woman will think less of you).

One Mic or Oochie Wallie brehs ​

somebody already posted this drivel a few pages back, your presence ain't wanted or needed

 

[Youhadasparkwhenustarted]

Damn some of yall "I'ma real man as nikka's" need to get checked. Ole hyperbolic chamber ass nikkas, it aint about wanting to cry, or moan or express your feelings when you get upset. It's about being able to when you NEED too, and the mental pressure of that weighting on you day to day for your whole life.


Alot of yall walking around with your chest poking out feeling like you winning but your actually sociopaths with some unrealistic twisted view of what it is to be a man. In essence your as bad as these women.


Be a man, work hard, be strong be a rock for you and your family. But damn it when ish gets stressful you should be able to talk to someone that's going to understand and not judge you. You ever wonder why mother son relationships are so close? Its because they are the pinnacle of how and what you should get out of a relationship with a person and especially a woman... Most mothers love and are there for there son no matter what they have done or are going through. They never make them feel like less of a man, and most men never find that kind of acceptance anywhere else in there life and thats why they keep there mothers so close.

Powerful post, but that last part

 

[Abstract83]

lol it's pure fantasy that it's some sort of 'machismo' holding men back from sharing their problems. the reality is if you start talking about too many of your problems, people will look at you like you're weak and chop out. "Oh, well hey, I got something to do. See you later."

That's the burden of being a man. You're on your own to hold it together.

Exactly. We're not allowed to vent. Women can complain and let all that shyt out with comfort. I use to hold that shyt in and let it build up. My girl use to always ask what's wrong seems like your holding back. Then that fear of opening up making u vulnerable to someone else would creep in. U almost feel guilty for being human. Or that alpha male masculinity shyt be telling u not to.

Eventually my girl had a heart to heart with me. Cause I went through a lot of family issues and personal stuff. She basically was like I'm your girl u gotta open up more u can't just hold everything in. I told her everything and didn't hold back.or keep it in. I can honestly say that that was one of the best things I've ever done. I probably added some extra yrs lol.

I'd say u can open up u just gotta be careful with who its with. Cause some people would be fukked up and hold it against u.

 

[InDePickWest]

somebody already posted this drivel a few pages back, your presence ain't wanted or needed

I'm just reinstating in case yall nikkas started to feel sorry for yallselves.
Remember yall made the rules but of course men dont proof read