REALEST EBRO RANT on Hot97: No One Cares About The Plight Of Men

[Chrishaune]

This was pretty much my exact situation and if I made a thread about my plight as a black woman, the majority of you wouldn't give a shyt. I can't recall how many times I've read on this board that a woman should never be broke insinuating that she exchanges sex for money. Even half of you were telling that stripper chick to go back to stripping after she tried her hand at earning a modest income. It's funny how the same device black men use to deflect the intersectionality experience within black women is the very same device that has resulted in your "plight". Now don't get me wrong, I'm not negating anything you said, I was simply bringing light to the current system at play and while I do think society should remain a patriarchy, there are a lot of flaws in the system and you cannot only want to fix the flaws that affect you as a man while keeping certain institutions that negatively affect women.


Breh, no one cares unless you're a white woman.


When you say depression is natural to black men bc of the environment that is hostile to your very existence, you are insinuating that there is a "false plight" for black women. You think Anne was less depressed seeing her husband getting lynched than her getting raped day in and day out by that very same slave master? Again, not disagreeing with you but just want to add on. Depression is very serious in the black community period. We as black ppl do too much bickering on whose plight is worse. One individual cannot measure the severity of someone else's plights based on their own experiences. Now, I only believe this theory is applicable to blacks (and other minorities but not on the same scale). If you're white, idgaf.

Sorry that you felt that way. Keep your head up. This is why black people (meaning men and women) should stick together. The current situation with us falling all over ourselves to be accepted by others does not work. They don't respect us. We have to build within our community. We have to do it together.

 

[Ohene]

They don't want to because for the longest while, society has told them they're dumb at math and science.

Any women pursuing a stem major is going against the odds, they're most likely one of few women in their classes which leads to being one of few in the workplace,

There is no reason why a Computer science class should be 90% male and 10% female, but that alone is enough to deter women.

+one for an black women pursuing computer science, that's like doubly against the odds.

Nah. More likely than not they don't want to because it's boring/difficult

 

[Remote]

and help create thousands of jobs in chicago but this is lsa lite at times so nevermind

Thousands, breh?

Let's see the receipts.

 

[Spin]

I get where Ebro is coming from. The girls in the studio with him just proved his point by their goofy reactions. In these current times, I think it's important for men to meet as many different women as you can. This doesn't mean that you're sleeping with them all, but it will help you easily pick up mentally where they're at. The media propaganda machine is in full force and both women and men are easily manipulated. Women are just like anything else, you get better with them the more you're around them. Someone mentioned that women will often challenge you as a male. The more women you associate with and the more hobbies you have outside of them will make these challenges a walk in the park. However, the beta male with no experience or hobbies will be thrown off his rocker.

The path for a man is usually a lonely one that he just has to get used to at some point in his life. Yes you can cling to "friends" and "significant others", but if their companionship is your SOLE source of happiness you are setting yourself up for disappointment. That guy Curtis Sc00n mentioned on his twitter he does everything with the expectation no one is going to help him. If he does get any assistance along the way, he just takes it as a bonus. While it's almost impossible to get anything done totally by yourself, those initial stages when you're trying to launch a business or career is going to be all on YOU. Eventually someone might notice you and assist, but usually that's by the time you're a well oiled machine that just needs that opportunity to push you to the finish line.

 

[Citi Trends]

Thousands, breh?

Let's see the receipts.

http://hiphopgivesback.com/common-kanye-west-partner-to-create-jobs-for-chicago-youth/
http://www.dondashouseinc.org/
http://www.people.com/article/dondas-house-arts-facebook-kanye-west
http://www.blackyouthproject.com/20...reate-more-than-20000-jobs-for-chicago-youth/
http://www.okayplayer.com/news/common-kanye-west-announce-chicago-music-jobs-youth-festival.html
http://www.clutchmagonline.com/2014/04/common-kanye-west-want-create-20000-jobs-chicago-youth/
http://www.echoinggreen.org/fellows/donnie-smith

 

[Remote]

http://hiphopgivesback.com/common-kanye-west-partner-to-create-jobs-for-chicago-youth/
http://www.dondashouseinc.org/
http://www.people.com/article/dondas-house-arts-facebook-kanye-west
http://www.blackyouthproject.com/20...reate-more-than-20000-jobs-for-chicago-youth/
http://www.okayplayer.com/news/common-kanye-west-announce-chicago-music-jobs-youth-festival.html
http://www.clutchmagonline.com/2014/04/common-kanye-west-want-create-20000-jobs-chicago-youth/
http://www.echoinggreen.org/fellows/donnie-smith

His non profit helps 30 kids per semester. Far from thousands.
His partnership with the Urban League, Common and DONDA's House is what hopes to create 20,000 jobs. That's not Kanye creating thousands of jobs.

I'll give you that he's seemingly doing his part to help people.
But you went a bit far with the hyperbole.

Point taken tho

 

[Citi Trends]

His non profit helps 30 kids per semester. Far from thousands.
His partnership with the Urban League, Common and DONDA's House is what hopes to create 20,000 jobs. That's not Kanye creating thousands of jobs.

I'll give you that he's seemingly doing his part to help people.
But you went a bit far with the hyperbole.

Point taken tho

i literally put the word "help" in my post

 

[be back in a bit]

It's the truth. Sometimes you hear Black women describing a Black man and it's not much different than how a cac would describe a Black man.

You're talking about a dumb ass bytch, that's not all black women.

 

[Kufismack]

You're talking about a dumb ass bytch, that's not all black women.

Why are you trying to separate the two? Are you saying it is impossible for a black woman to be dumb?

 

[EA]

This was pretty much my exact situation and if I made a thread about my plight as a black woman, the majority of you wouldn't give a shyt. I can't recall how many times I've read on this board that a woman should never be broke insinuating that she exchanges sex for money. Even half of you were telling that stripper chick to go back to stripping after she tried her hand at earning a modest income. It's funny how the same device black men use to deflect the intersectionality experience within black women is the very same device that has resulted in your "plight". Now don't get me wrong, I'm not negating anything you said, I was simply bringing light to the current system at play and while I do think society should remain a patriarchy, there are a lot of flaws in the system and you cannot only want to fix the flaws that affect you as a man while keeping certain institutions that negatively affect women.

Tbh, like most others in this thread, I'm not asking for a change because there are nuances with our position as men that can't be understood unless you're going through it as well and this is the same for women. As much I do believe that some women want to discredit the things that men go through due to their bad experiences (or lack of experiences) with men, I don't look at it as divisive as black men vs black women because at the end of the day, these are behaviours exhibited by everybody and we should be working together to fix the broken barriers.

 

[FemiO]

I'm just reinstating in case yall nikkas started to feel sorry for yallselves.
Remember yall made the rules but of course men dont proof read

you don't even understand patriarchy yourself and you're clowning people on the internet about it. you're a joke

 

[hatechall]

consider me now suggesting the least extreme

what tangible steps can someone take right now to un-patriarchy themselves? bonus points if you could find one that would actually benefit them.

btw uprooting a "norm" that's a staple of successful societies for centuries just for the sake of re-inventing the wheel..sounds like the most extreme outcome to me.

To the extent that gender roles are socially constructed, individuals should be granted the freedom to define these roles for themselves. Some people prefer patriarchal masculinity, while others reject it. It's not an either-or thing. I propose that patriarchal masculinity is especially harmful to poor and working class blacks, given that the men are systematically denied access to employment and positions of authority.

Over the course of generations, adhering to the notion that men are supposed to provide, when they lack the means to do so, will inevitably lead to alternative (re: extremely violent) notions of what it means to be a man. If you've ever been to the hood you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.

As for tangible steps, one would be to refrain from scrutinizing men who don't subscribe to a single, rigid, notion of masculinity. Another would be to seek intimacy/confidence from relatives and friends, rather than expecting it from girlfriends or wives who (logically) refuse to provide it to strong, patriarchal men.

Finally, Scruffy is spot on with regards to women in STEM (though I don't think it's necessary for men to take work in the service industry). No society can reach its full potential if half of its population is regarded as inferior, and relegated to the margins of the workforce. For all their wealth, European and Asians societies will never reach their full potential for precisely those reasons. Thus, I don't care about the "staples" of such societies. I support gender equality because I want black people to reach their full potential.

Hope that clears up my stance on this issue.

P.S. I suspect that you're white or some form of not black. You sound like a whiny white boa.
If not, I invite you to watch the hiddencolors documentary, get some certs and start up a business. That's always a surefire path to success for coli brehs.

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

And I don't give a fukk what anybody thinks seeing these posts. I keep it real! The whole world will feel my pain!

fukk all you garbage ass racist disgusting inhumane Amerikkkans!

i feel your pain

 

[street heat]

black men in America don't receive the full benefits of being a man but definitely get all negatives and then some. no one will ever understand this though, not even black women.

 

[Wild self]

I was coming to say this. It's black men. It's not men.

Hell, there's a whole subculture (it's no where near as popular as it used to be) of other races bleaching their skin, looking skinny and acting mopey because being depressed is "cool".

There's legions and legions of women (and men) swooning over fictional "sensitive" and "broody" characters. And I don't mean Luther.

Eminem has made millions over the years just because he's allowed to do shyt like be angry at his mom. The Coli says "That's CAC shyt".

And all of the above shyt is fake and accepted. Go get some pills.


me? I'm not allowed to be depressed.

I can't talk about loneliness.

I can't cry over lost love or heart breaks.

I can't say I don't like my mom, regardless of the things she's done or the type of person she is. Some random nikka might punch me in the face.

I can't talk about financial worries. Don't nobody respect that.

I'm a black man. I'm supposed to be watching and listening to certain shyt, not having no feelings, fukking all the good and bad p*ssy I can and getting money in any way possible.

This world has made us sociopaths, brehs.

Sociopaths.

nobody cares.

A lot of crab ass brehs talk shyt like I cannot have a Sonic the Hedgehog avvi, I gotta be some goon status, and wasting time and money on bullshyt. No one gives a fukk about black men period, but I learned to to them bums cause their opinions don't pay my bills