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I don't even fukk with Nas but why would a Nas fan be insecure of that camel faced sellout? :scusthov:
Damn, I just said that insecurity is the cause for the hate. What's the point of responding to a post that you haven't read?

LeBron has been brought up in this discussion just as much as Kobe so this isn't about that. In case you haven't been payin attention, nobody is hatin on Mike. Just on how people treat his legend like the first time they smoked a crack rock. But this is the era where disagreement or difference of opinion = hate so yeah I'm hatin. :yeshrug:
The title of your thread is "fukk Michael Jordan", but I'm out of line for saying that you're hating? Regardless of how you try to spin it, whether you're hating on Mike himself or the respect or acclaim that he continues to receive, you're still hating. You can try to act like this isn't about Kobe, but you're a Kobe fanboy and Kobe fanboys seem to share a certain resentment for Mike. Like I said, the resentment/hate is caused by insecurity. You're whining is invalid. Mike is generally looked at as the best of all time, and that's why he's used as the measuring stick. Did that really have to be explained to you? Is that really something to throw a hissy fit over?
 

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The problem with Kobe is he is part of the generation that always jumped the gun on crowning n!ggas...If they would have waited until after the Boston series in '10 to introduce the comparissions then it probably wouldnt be ignored as much...But they got cized after the 80 point game against the Raptors and haven't looked back...

He will have his time (then Bron will eventually have his time)...


But we are part of the era where everything has to be immediatly quantified as classic...Breaking Bad the best TV show of all time, Dark Knight greatest movie of all time, Eminem greatest rapper of all time, Brady greatest QB of all time etc...

Nobody is patient enough to allow history to happen organically anymore...Kobe is a victim of that in some ways..
Damn, great fukking point...
Let me play devils advocate tho, I still think jordan is the goat, but some older people wont accept anything new. My opinion about jordan was formed the first time i was old enough to realize what i was seeing and that was the fact that he was the best player on the court, if i see or witness a player greater then I will gladly accept that, I think lebron could be, but time will tell.
 

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Damn, I just said that insecurity is the cause for the hate. What's the point of responding to a post that you haven't read?

The title of your thread is "fukk Michael Jordan", but I'm out of line for saying that you're hating? Regardless of how you try to spin it, whether you're hating on Mike himself or the respect or acclaim that he continues to receive, you're still hating. You can try to act like this isn't about Kobe, but you're a Kobe fanboy and Kobe fanboys seem to share a certain resentment for Mike. Like I said, the resentment/hate is caused by insecurity. You're whining is invalid. Mike is generally looked at as the best of all time, and that's why he's used as the measuring stick. Did that really have to be explained to you? Is that really something to throw a hissy fit over?

I'm not gonna dignify this with a serious response. If everyone else in here got the point but you didn't then I dunno what to tell you.
 

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How ironic is it that the only posters on this "fukk Jordan" shyt and complaining how everyone gets compared to him are groupies of the one player that went out of his way to TRY TO BE JORDAN and bring the comparisons on himself his entire career?

Ya'll are lost
 

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The problem with Kobe is he is part of the generation that always jumped the gun on crowning n!ggas...If they would have waited until after the Boston series in '10 to introduce the comparissions then it probably wouldnt be ignored as much...But they got cized after the 80 point game against the Raptors and haven't looked back...

He will have his time (then Bron will eventually have his time)...


But we are part of the era where everything has to be immediatly quantified as classic...Breaking Bad the best TV show of all time, Dark Knight greatest movie of all time, Eminem greatest rapper of all time, Brady greatest QB of all time etc...

Nobody is patient enough to allow history to happen organically anymore...Kobe is a victim of that in some ways..

Great fukkin point
 

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Can't fault people for talking about arguably the greatest NBA player ever and one of the greatest athletes of his generation.

The problem lies in people wanting to rewrite history to make him look that much better. The way people talk you'd think Jordan only played for six seasons and won championships with a bunch of bums.

Jordan himself doesn't even go as overboard with his self praise as others do.
 

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Damn, great fukking point...
Let me play devils advocate tho, I still think jordan is the goat, but some older people wont accept anything new. My opinion about jordan was formed the first time i was old enough to realize what i was seeing and that was the fact that he was the best player on the court, if i see or witness a player greater then I will gladly accept that, I think lebron could be, but time will tell.

Yeah thats natural....My pops feels like Mike isn't seeing Doc and my grandfather feels like Doc wasn't seeing Baylor and Big O...

Austin Rivers could have 8 scoring titles and win 5 rings (bad example I know) and the majority of the 80's babies would never say he was on Kobe's level...
 

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How ironic is it that the only posters on this "fukk Jordan" shyt and complaining how everyone gets compared to him are groupies of the one player that went out of his way to TRY TO BE JORDAN and bring the comparisons on himself his entire career?

Ya'll are lost

Glad to see you make it to the discussion my good sir. :shake: Tell me, how upset will you be on a scale of 1-10 when Nashty win a ring? :youngsabo:
 

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The problem with Kobe is he is part of the generation that always jumped the gun on crowning n!ggas...If they would have waited until after the Boston series in '10 to introduce the comparissions then it probably wouldnt be ignored as much...But they got cized after the 80 point game against the Raptors and haven't looked back...

He will have his time (then Bron will eventually have his time)...


But we are part of the era where everything has to be immediatly quantified as classic...Breaking Bad the best TV show of all time, Dark Knight greatest movie of all time, Eminem greatest rapper of all time, Brady greatest QB of all time etc...

Nobody is patient enough to allow history to happen organically anymore...Kobe is a victim of that in some ways..

Bill Walton was the king of superlatives....
But also, there's a couple things with this as well...

There had not a been player like Michael Jordan before with the flash and charisma, Magic was flashy and charismatic but in a team dynamic sort of way. Jordan was a flashy individualistic player. Nike helped Jordan push the conversation more towards, "I'm a great player," not "I'm a great teammate"

Magic and Bird were great teammates on great teams, Jordan was a great player that had to become a great teammate in order to build a great team.

Another thing is that Nike helped Jordan become a cross culture phenom, Magic had Hollywood and the west coast locked down. Bird had the east coast and the white working class on lock. But Jordan had everyone because of his individual greatness, people loved to root for him because he was the underdog, getting beat by the Celtics, getting beat up by the Pistons. And basically it fell on his shoulders solely.

We think of the Bulls now the way we do because of Jordan and honestly, the Lakers had great teams before Kobe and they will after Kobe. The Bulls wouldn't have 6 championships without Jordan and Pippen to that extent.

Magic had 5 rings by the time Kobe was 9-10 years old, so Kobe never really had the weight of creating a dynasty, just the job of maintaining one. Kobe Bryant sits at the table with the all time greats and there's no disputing that, but it should be understood that Jordan is the one breaking the bread and passing it around to the rest.
 

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Bill Walton was the king of superlatives....
But also, there's a couple things with this as well...

There had not a been player like Michael Jordan before with the flash and charisma, Magic was flashy and charismatic but in a team dynamic sort of way. Jordan was a flashy individualistic player. Nike helped Jordan push the conversation more towards, "I'm a great player," not "I'm a great teammate"

Magic and Bird were great teammates on great teams, Jordan was a great player that had to become a great teammate in order to build a great team.

Another thing is that Nike helped Jordan become a cross culture phenom, Magic had Hollywood and the west coast locked down. Bird had the east coast and the white working class on lock. But Jordan had everyone because of his individual greatness, people loved to root for him because he was the underdog, getting beat by the Celtics, getting beat up by the Pistons. And basically it fell on his shoulders solely.

We think of the Bulls now the way we do because of Jordan and honestly, the Lakers had great teams before Kobe and they will after Kobe. The Bulls wouldn't have 6 championships without Jordan and Pippen to that extent.

Magic had 5 rings by the time Kobe was 9-10 years old, so Kobe never really had the weight of creating a dynasty, just the job of maintaining one. Kobe Bryant sits at the table with the all time greats and there's no disputing that, but it should be understood that Jordan is the one breaking the bread and passing it around to the rest.

and about Nike,....MJ had it where it was Nike, NOT the NBA that could only sell his jerseys. The NBA couldn't even use his likeness on video games, the NBA was forced to make up for that loss of merchandising by supersaturating the airwaves with Michael for advertising dollars. The NBA was actually COMPETING with Nike for MJ dollars!! :krs:
 

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There had not a been player like Michael Jordan before with the flash and charisma.


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Jordan was the first to have that marketing machine behind him but he was hardly the first player to have that level of flash and charisma.
 

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I'm not gonna dignify this with a serious response. If everyone else in here got the point but you didn't then I dunno what to tell you.
There you go, tuck that tail and slink away. You shouldn't have dignified the hate that caused you to make this thread. I get the socalled "point" that you're trying to make, I'm telling you that your point is invalid. Mike is the measuring stick because he's generally viewed as the best, stop crying and deal with it.
 

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smh fukk Cheese Eyes. nikka got people killing each other over a pair of Jordan shoes. But, I guess that's everyone's GOAT than? :mjpls: IMO he is the best to ever played, but there are serious flaws in his life and honestly, if you look at it, the whole Greatest Of All Time name is really hype to a degree. He earned it, but Nike and the hype machine makes him out to be like he was perfect, like he never had a bad game, like he made every shot, like there has been no serious things to have happened in his life, etc. And if you say something negative about him, peeps be like :rudy: but I guess the hype machine did there job though and it worked.
 
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