Real live, f*ck Michael Jordan....

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Its David Stern fault really. The NBA is a great product but its meteoric rise was due to it being star-driven.

You had the Magic vs Bird era first. That got the ball rolling. Then came along MJ and David Stern put the media machine behind him and he became the biggest athlete celebrity of the modern era. Maybe still is(sorry Tiger).

This in turn made the NBA extremely popular because everybody was an MJ fan due to how mainstream he had became.

Stern still uses this formula and that's why BBall players are the most popular pitchmen for products because they are easily recognizable.

Barkley still getting it in. Kobe and Bron's endorsement deals are insane. D-Pain up next if everything goes well in LA.

People compare players to MJ because he was the biggest NBA star ever and the NBA is a star driven product

 

[Heretic]

If you're not going to bring CBS into this argument, you have no idea what I'm talking about.

I brought espn up, not really to argue but because they are the ones that make gods out of people, or try and pick and choose who people should like cbs I never really had an issue with, but yeah when nbc got the nba rights it was all lakers knicks amd bulls, nobody else mattered at least until the late 90's

 

[NYC Rebel]

Its David Stern fault really. The NBA is a great product but its meteoric rise was due to it being star-driven.

You had the Magic vs Bird era first. That got the ball rolling. Then came along MJ and David Stern put the media machine behind him and he became the biggest athlete celebrity of the modern era. Maybe still is(sorry Tiger).

This in turn made the NBA extremely popular because everybody was an MJ fan due to how mainstream he had became.

Stern still uses this formula and that's why BBall players are the most popular pitchmen for products because they are easily recognizable.

Barkley still getting it in. Kobe and Bron's endorsement deals are insane. D-Pain up next if everything goes well in LA.

People compare players to NBA because he was the biggest NBA star ever and the NBA is a star driven product

Lakers vs. Celtics was bigger than Bird vs. Magic. Then when the NBA left CBS to go to NBC, Stern took control, stripping the NBA away from the NBC Sports umbrella where all their sports were under and pushed the athlete over team shyt we're still dealing with.

 

[NYC Rebel]

I brought espn up, not really to argue but because they are the ones that make gods out of people, or try and pick and choose who people should like cbs I never really had an issue with, but yeah when nbc got the nba rights it was all lakers knicks amd bulls, nobody else mattered at least until the late 90's

NBC started that. Giving 5 minute soliloquies to MJ was fathered on NBC. Compare the intro to CBS. They made it about the Lakers vs. Celtics, barely overdoing it with Magic and Bird.

The NBA on NBC fathered all of this bs. Cats love that era, but it represented a shift which fukked up people appreciating today's athletes.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Come on Quik, you my nicca but g*ddamn! Kobe studied Jordon all the way down to his walk when the PA Announcer introduce the players before the game. You could argue- No Jordon= No Kobe.. But Kobe is that dude though don't get it twisted. and plus the league was chasing the "Jordan High" that disappear when he retired. The league is hot again now, you hear less and less about Jordon these days. Don't let The_Coli have you thinkin' everyone is still comparing everyone to Jordan. Plus Jordan is not really on the mic and in the cameras like that. You see him at 'Cats games but he's not really on the mic and talking shyt. Like I didn't hear nothing from him until he responded to the Dream Team statements from Bron and Kobe. But he's kinda quite, the only time he let loose was at his Hall Of Fame acceptance speech



-unlike MAGIC JOHNSON! that mothafukka is gettin' on my nerves. before the Nash and Howard trade-- "The younger Buss better do something, this is unacceptable in Laker Nation!" "Mike Brown needs to be let go!" "What are they doing!"-- Now they got Howard he's been all over sports radio damn near trippin' over his words he's so giddy- "The Lakers are back!" "we have another superstar after Kobe retires" "he's gonna fit in sooooo well with Pau, Nash, and Kobe!"



-stfu Magic! Go steal another real estate ideal off someone and take over the project

- This topic was spurred from me watching ESPN actually. LeBron just had his best season and nikkaz couldn't wait to compare him to Jordan like damn, can the nikka just breathe and enjoy his accolades before somebody busts thru and says "Meh, that was pretty good. He's still no Jordan tho." At some point nikkaz is gon get tired of this shyt, personally I'm starting to think all this superteam shyt was the best thing to happen because at least now the TEAM might be more the focus as oppose to one or two players.

- Magic gets on my fukkin nerves too, he might be a Laker legend, an excellent businessman, and a beacon of continued black excellence but I never listen to a word he says. Them drugs got him on Emmitt status.

 

[holidayinn21]

NBC started that. Giving 5 minute soliloquies to MJ was fathered on NBC. Compare the intro to CBS. They made it about the Lakers vs. Celtics, barely overdoing it with Magic and Bird.

The NBA on NBC fathered all of this bs. Cats love that era, but it represented a shift which fukked up people appreciating today's athletes.

very good point reb

 

[Heretic]

NBC started that. Giving 5 minute soliloquies to MJ was fathered on NBC. Compare the intro to CBS. They made it about the Lakers vs. Celtics, barely overdoing it with Magic and Bird.

The NBA on NBC fathered all of this bs. Cats love that era, but it represented a shift which fukked up people appreciating today's athletes.

I agree completely, the nba is still seen as an individual sport because of that, but that's not jordans fault. Its still the kobe show, not the lake show and it's lebron and the heatles but I think that's moreso because the nba needs a face becausr of what it became. You now have people who are fans of players now and not teams i.e. all those cavs fans who are heat fans now or the fact that jeremy lin was put on a pedestal after just a week of solid games and once he got hurt you never heard shyt about ny.

 

[kevin arnold]

michael jeffrey jordan >

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Turn to First Take right now, this the shyt topic that made me make this thread. = "Jordan is the ultimate winner."

Kareem won at every level of basketball, why isn't he the ultimate winner? Russell got 11 rings, so what does that make him?

 

[pete clemenza]

NBC started that. Giving 5 minute soliloquies to MJ was fathered on NBC. Compare the intro to CBS. They made it about the Lakers vs. Celtics, barely overdoing it with Magic and Bird.

The NBA on NBC fathered all of this bs. Cats love that era, but it represented a shift which fukked up people appreciating today's athletes.

Bob Costas

-their presentation was good and everyone loved the triple headers, but they damn near ruined the league with that MJ/Bulls shyt. Nothing against the Bulls but when Jordan retired NBC, Stern, and the casual fans went

 

[OG Talk]

Turn to First Take right now, this the shyt topic that made me make this thread. = "Jordan is the ultimate winner."

Kareem won at every level of basketball, why isn't he the ultimate winner? Russell got 11 rings, so what does that make him?

So you allowed something on First Take to bring emotion out of you?

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Bob Costas

-their presentation was good and everyone loved the triple headers, but they damn near ruined the league with that MJ/Bulls shyt. Nothing against the Bulls but when Jordan retired NBC, Stern, and the casual fans went

It was like watching a dope fiend in withdrawal, to me that shyt brought more hate on Kobe cuz a lot of them cluckers wanted him to be Jordan so fukkin bad but the hardcore baseheads denied that he or anyone could reach that level.

So you allowed something on First Take to bring emotion out of you?

lol, you actin like I just tore my house apart seething with anger over this. I'm just annoyed at the endless comparisons. They make those comparisons like they LITERALLY want him to be Michael Jeffrey Jordan.

 

[pete clemenza]

Turn to First Take right now, this the shyt topic that made me make this thread. = "Jordan is the ultimate winner."

Kareem won at every level of basketball, why isn't he the ultimate winner? Russell got 11 rings, so what does that make him?

I hear you, I think if the internet was bigger back then like it is now and if social media was going strong we would've seen the other side to Jordan.. Punching teammates in practice, the partying, the white girls, etc. We didn't get all that so everyone has this misty-eyed fond memory of Michael Jeffery Jordan.. and not to mention he balled out of control on the court. He dominated shyt with flare and swagger

 

[Heretic]

Turn to First Take right now, this the shyt topic that made me make this thread. = "Jordan is the ultimate winner."

Kareem won at every level of basketball, why isn't he the ultimate winner? Russell got 11 rings, so what does that make him?

Espn will make you hate anybody because they go overboard... Kareem was great, nikka even got trained by bruce lee lol. Bill russell was great but that whole team was as well. I cant discredit them and no real sports fan will but the prob is, there is nothing to reference, not really any old games no real footage. Hell wilt chamberlains 100 pt game doesnt even exist outside of newspaper clippings, so thats their achilles heel. Their prime was all newspaper clippings and word of mouth.

 

[boskey]

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