Reading and math competency chart broken down by race and state. Black Americans are doing pitiful.

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Some kids got dumbass parents who can't read either. Something still needs to be done to educate them in spite of their parents.
We leave it entirely to the parents and nothing will be done. How we expect the blind to lead the blind.
We have immigrants who can read or speak the language so have no idea how to assist the kids with their homework, and their kids still excell somehow so its possible.

Most kids don't have parents they have a selfish person who gave birth to them for attention lol. Person in the singular.
 

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I'm sure younger people can pick up on your thoughts that higher education is useless.

Interesting because my parents pushed college from elementary school. It wasn't something negotiable. I needed to focus on school to get into college in order to get a decent job. They both were graduates and I should be as well. Same with most of my peers.

Just an observation.
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People don’t want to talk about it, but these kids vocabulary is literally just straight hip-hop slang that they’re hearing in songs. These kids don’t realize that it’s not real English.

the avg person doesn't understand the rigor behind producing competitive children. You even see it here with the chicks who brag about the single mother by choice stuff. If you work in a competitive industry one thing you will see common is how the kids of folks (married people) aren't even smart but are groomed to compete thus they can get into good schools just off the strength of years of being groomed for all the standardized test plus understanding how to craft their profile for these universities.

Regular nikkas (products of person who gave birth not an actual family unit) think just buying they kids stuff and dropping them off at school and buying dinner = parenting.

The avg child is not being groomed to compete and the stuff black people deal with is just the icing on the cake for that too.
 
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Yeah, Indians scored high the year before. Was pretty surprised.

That last part you mentioned is the messed up part.

That kid who has a tough time learning will act out in class, drag people down with them, make the teachers' job more difficult, be the class clown, etc. as well.

What I honestly think needs to happen is some good old fashioned Tiger Parenting. It's funny all these years later when people said her daughters would hate her, what instead ended up happening was her daughters went on to Ivy League schools, successful and ended up in really good relationships with their parents. That Tiger Parent's father is also one of the greatest Electrical Engineers of all-time (Chua Circuits and Memristors), basically all his kids and grandkids are successful. Maybe they did know what they're talking about. A lot of these kids need discipline and active monitoring.

It doesn't even have to be that extreme, but a lot more on the stern and active side than the hands-off approach.
100% agree.

My parents knew I was capable of getting A's, so that was the expectation. If I showed up with 87, 88 or 89, they'd be like :ufdup: :stopitslime:. Nothing serious, but usually that meant I was playing too much Tekken 3, Madden and Metal Gear. Soon as I turned off the games Mon to Thursday.....that 87 would go back up to a 95.

I wouldn't want to pressure my kids as bad as some Indian parents. Saw too many brown homies trying to be software engineers when they had more talent for sales or marketing. However, in our community...a little "Tiger Parenting" is needed. Same way we see all the dads of pro athletes working with their kids jumpshot or footwork, we need that diligence applied to Calculus, Physics etc.
 

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What is real English?


oh behave !

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American English is just a b*stardization of the queen's English which is a b*stardization of a bunch of

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100% agree.

My parents knew I was capable of getting A's, so that was the expectation. If I showed up with 87, 88 or 89, they'd be like :ufdup: :stopitslime:. Nothing serious, but usually that meant I was playing too much Tekken 3, Madden and Metal Gear. Soon as I turned off the games Mon to Thursday.....that 87 would go back up to a 95.

I wouldn't want to pressure my kids as bad as some Indian parents. Saw too many brown homies trying to be software engineers when they had more talent for sales or marketing. However, in our community...a little "Tiger Parenting" is needed. Same way we see all the dads of pro athletes working with their kids jumpshot or footwork, we need that diligence applied to Calculus, Physics etc.
Yup. Biggest problem is once again that some parents' specialty is the jump shot, footwork, etc. which is fine, especially if you want your kid to play basketball.

However, it's an absolute shame that some parents don't know their basic Math to even 1/4 that point. We're not even asking for someone to be sharp in Algebra I, but simply decent enough to help their kid out do their elementary Math homework. Like there are youtube channels that break this stuff down to the simplest terms as possible.

That's really a glimpse of how bad it is.

All this is while Khan Academy, MathTutorDVD, Paul's Online Math Notes, etc. have been around for nearly 20 years now (2008).
 
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Most kids don't have parents they have a selfish person who gave birth to them for attention lol. Person in the singular.
Even overachieving kids can have selfish parents.
My point is there are better solutions that just saying "the parents fukked up" and moving on.
Anybody can be educated, even the children of bad parents.
 

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Even overachieving kids can have selfish parents.
My point is there are better solutions that just saying "the parents fukked up" and moving on.
Anybody can be educated, even the children of bad parents.
.the context of my post are grooming competitive children thus the selfishness is in not preparing your kids to compete. In the literal sense having kids is a selfish act because you do it for YOUR legacy but that is a different Convo this thread is about kids who can't compete
 

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Some kids got dumbass parents who can't read either. Something still needs to be done to educate them in spite of their parents.
We leave it entirely to the parents and nothing will be done. How we expect the blind to lead the blind.
We have immigrants who can read or speak the language so have no idea how to assist the kids with their homework, and their kids still excell somehow so its possible.
Yeah, I still put this in the parenting box.

I know my limitations. If I can’t teach them something, it’s my job to find resources that can help them understand. There’s a lot of free material on YouTube. The library is free and nowadays you don’t even have to leave your home to check out books, in some places.

To your point about the immigrant kids excelling, they probably see the big picture. We have poor black kids who are also self motivated because they see it too, but it’s unpopular to talk about that.
 

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Shut the fukk up fakkit with that “logic” you understand that?
So no answer i see:bryan:
The language that dominates our current reality. What it is and isn't doesn't matter what when it is the standard. You want to get philosophical or embrace reality? These kids are expected to be up to the standard.
@Da King wasn't talking about school though. His original comment was about the slang they use

The point of communication is to exchange information. As long as the speakers know what's being said, that's all that matters. It's not any difference between using slang or a regional dialect. Which goes back to my question, what is real English?

Language is constantly evolving. Shakespeare used incorrect Grammer and made up words. Only difference between him and hip hop is he's a dead cac :beli:

I'm not saying kids should use slang in their career or some shyt, but just shooting the shyt amongst themselves is more than fine :skip:
 

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Don't even know what to say anymore. I've talked about it, done research on it in real life in my area, and attempted to change things.

This is not a new problem and with the new teachers that we have now and inactive parents. Its over.

Black people are gonna lose.

The concept of culture is lost. Not passing down any artifacts or lessons from the past to conquer the current climate.

Add in the suicide rates of young black kids and the reason for it 56% of the time. Its over.
 
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