"Rappers rap about killing other Black men and no one bats an eye..."

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It’s s disingenuous argument cause never in be history of rap has there been ever been a song about killing Black people.

There’s been songs that tell both fictional and truth-based stories about killing of people who happen to be Black.

But nobody’s every made a song on some KKK rap shyt like “I kill Black people cause they’re Black.”

after your L-presenting ceremony is over you should help Buju resurrect his career

Spoiler: ... NSFL / NSFW

"well buju didn't mean all di batty boy dem or because they were like that. they were just people who were incidentally that way inclined and buju was talking about violence in general. buju loves the anti-man dem" - Dusty

 

[Master Teacher]

Using Ice Tea is a bad example, the most controversial record he did was called Cop Killer, and that's what he got the most flack for
Body Count - Cop Killer - YouTube

 

[Drew Wonder]

Using Ice Tea is a bad example, the most controversial record he did was called Cop Killer, and that's what he got the most flack for
Body Count - Cop Killer - YouTube

Exactly, and Cop Killer isn’t even a rap song. Ice T’s actual hip hop songs are tame compared to that

The biggest reason why he got so much shyt for Cop Killer is because he was making a song specifically for the young white kid demographic who listened to metal. Like white parents could dismiss it when it was just “nygga music” but when it was music catered toward young white kids with that kind of message it scared the shyt out of them

 

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[Dusty Bake Activate]

after your L-presenting ceremony is over you should help Buju resurrect his career

Spoiler: ... NSFL / NSFW

"well buju didn't mean all di batty boy dem or because they were like that. they were just people who were incidentally that way inclined and buju was talking about violence in general. buju loves the anti-man dem" - Dusty

Are you really this dumb? Boom Bye Bye is a song about killing gay people for being gay.

There is no equivalent of that song in hip-hop that talks about killing Black people for being Black. An analogous song to Boom Bye Bye would be some lynching anthem by racist crackers.

Y’all really need to do better. The arguments you’re trying to use against my logic and facts don’t hold up. Y’all are goofy ass internet try hards on a soapbox trying to be pro-black but end up confusing yourselves into pushing white supremacist narratives that you haven’t thought through that well.

 

[Matt504]

 

[Tribal Outkast]

Yeah and oprah and the rest did the same thing when Kramer said the N-word. Then the focus went to black comedians and rappers using the word and that was why Kramer used it. After the Kramer incident Paul Mooney even took the N-word out of his acts.

Now I don't use the N-Word or call sistas hoes or bytches. But I never liked that media bull shyt how every time a white person fukks up it turns into a conversation of how black folks need to do better. Its bull shyt and disengenus.

We just went through this shyt when the white boy Daryl Morey went on twitter when his monkey ass called out China. Within seconds all the dumb asses in the media and 2 brain cell having fukking idiots on social media flipped the white boy comments. Into what lebron and all the black stars in the NBA got to say cause they need to care about this issue.

So nah fukk that shyt about black folks need to have a discussion whenever white folks fukk up. They ain't never asked our permission to say or do what they want and black folks certainly ain't influencing their bad behavior towards us or anyone else.

Cause if that were the case black folks would have been still chilling in africa instead of being sent here in chains.

People fight too hard for that N word man. At the same tone when people were fighting to get that N word on tv and all that, gays and others were fighting to get derogatory terms about them taken off. You can damn near get away with calling somebody a “nikka” on a family show, but say anything bad about gays and Jews at your concert and you might be done.. I’m talking about in a video that somebody just happened to catch on their cellphone and posted online. People laugh at black folks plight man because we don’t tighten it up like these other groups. Get all this derogatory stuff against black folks out of here and see what happens.

 

[Carlton Banks]

A better idea is how about we boycott killing each other in real life?

Why can't we do both?

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

"I call it KKK because my choppa hates nikkas"

Rappers use ignorant ass wordplay and punchlines in rap? You don’t say.

 

[Youngdev]

I think y’all and comparing apples to oranges

what da baby did and what people do in there raps are two different things

Da baby went on a rant about gays stereo typing them with a disease and shyt

that’s completely different from someone on a verse saying my nikkas on the block ready to lay shyt down type shyt

 

[Matt504]

 

[Taadow]

@Dusty Bake Activate is getting roasted but I honestly do understand the argument he’s making. Yes, it’s important to look at the context and intent behind the lyrics, like are Black rappers saying it because they legit hate Black people or are they just trying to make a shock value punchline. And yes, when it comes to homicide and murder whether white or Black, it’s primarily done by people of the same race who live in close proximity to each other

But, you also gotta dig a little deeper. No, I don’t think Black rappers who rap about killing other Black people actively hate Black people. But I do think the nonchalant way they talk about killing other Black people suggests that whether consciously or not, they devalue Black lives to the point where it doesn’t bother them when they rap about it. Now the reason for that attitude can be debated but the point is the attitude is there, and to me that’s the biggest problem that needs to be addressed. Like what brought you to the point where you can make a three minute song about killing nyggas and it doesn’t seem to bother you in the slightest

Absolutely agree with your whole post...

...but now, consider your last point:
The inverse is also true. You can make a three minute song about how much you love niccas
(and we could extrapolate lyrics from those songs here, like other posters are doing), and it
doesn’t bother anybody in the slightest...








...that is, until somebody non-Black starts singing along.

That’s why all this non-contextual criticism of Rap will never make any sense,
especially from people who don’t care about the context in the first place.

 

[Master Teacher]

Exactly, and Cop Killer isn’t even a rap song. Ice T’s actual hip hop songs are tame compared to that

The biggest reason why he got so much shyt for Cop Killer is because he was making a song specifically for the young white kid demographic who listened to metal. Like white parents could dismiss it when it was just “nygga music” but when it was music catered toward young white kids with that kind of message it scared the shyt out of them

That's my point Ice Tea is a bad example for this

and the Cop Killer song is still banned, it ain't even on spotify, they took off all the album releases after 92

blacks don't control what is released and what's not it is what its

They let c00n shyt like MC EIHT and Future to come out, but Cop Killer which ain't even rap song is still banned and its almost been 30 years

 

[Drew Wonder]

Absolutely agree with your whole post...

...but now, consider your last point:
The inverse is also true. You can make a three minute song about how much you love niccas
(and we could extrapolate lyrics from those songs here, like other posters are doing), and it
doesn’t bother anybody in the slightest...








...that is, until somebody non-Black starts singing along.

That’s why all this non-contextual criticism of Rap will never make any sense,
especially from people who don’t care about the context in the first place.

This is true. And you’re absolutely correct that context matters when it comes to critiquing art.

And the irony is most of the media talking heads who’ve criticized gangsta rap always talk about Black on Black violence in terms of numbers and statistics rather than looking at who the victims are as individuals. So in a way they’re devaluing Black lives just like rappers are

 

[Matt504]