"Rappers rap about killing other Black men and no one bats an eye..."

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Ice-t always had a message in his music.
the ending in most of his tales ended with
jail or death.

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I've had countless arguments with ppl about this, in those early songs they pretty much always had to suffer the consequences of their actions. But alot are or have been more enthralled with the story than the actual message.
 

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The industry and law enforcement (the system) have a symbiotic relationship with one another. Black dysfunctionality and degeneracy is a commodity.

And all this toxic music produced by these rappers is basically a manifestation of our current state of being. That's why back in the day the music was more positive and loving.
 

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The problem is that this media is projecting a terrible image of the community. It's not entertainment at this point, it's propaganda.
Do you not believe there is truth in these images? What came first, black people killing each other or rappers rapping about it? What came first, drug lords selling poison to the black community (Frank Lucas, Nikki Barnes in Harlem for example in the 70’s) or rappers rapping about it?

Is it propaganda or a window into the hood?:jbhmm:
 

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Do you not believe there is truth in these images? What came first, black people killing each other or rappers rapping about it? What came first, drug lords selling poison to the black community (Frank Lucas, Nikki Barnes in Harlem for example in the 70’s) or rappers rapping about it?

Is it propaganda or a window into the hood?:jbhmm:

We've seen visions from this window for 30 years, at this point it's doing more harm than good and I'd argue that there's nothing good that comes from videos of Black men huddled together pointing guns at cameras.

:francis:
 

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Yep look at what happened to late 80s-early 90s rap. Gangsta rap won out over Public Enemy, BDP, Tribe, etc. and largely because 80% of the market was white kids who wanted music that would piss their parents off more than tranny looking hair bands screaming about Satan

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Dee Snyder is an absolute legend for taking on the Gore's and congress for this. They had no clue who they where dealing with

 

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The industry and law enforcement (the system) have a symbiotic relationship with one another. Black dysfunctionality and degeneracy is a commodity.

And all this toxic music produced by these rappers is basically a manifestation of our current state of being. That's why back in the day the music was more positive and loving.

I've thought about this in the context of this discussion. Often when it comes to Steve Harvey and his routine criticisms of rap music. And I feel that one thing about hip hop is that it is simultaneously the fakest, but also the realist for m of music there is. Fake in that rappers are often lying about things they do, the money they got, etc.

But it's the realist form of music in that it does not attempt to sugarcoat what's going on in many of our communities. Yeah if you listen to a lot of the older soul artists its all about love and family and all that good stuff.

But is that always reality? The Temptations are one of the greatest groups ever and have iconic love songs. But the fact of the matter is the guy that was their lead singer was a violent woman abuser and drug user. Now of course the Temps ain't singing about none of that sh!t. James Brown neither, who was a vicious abuser of women. I cringe whenever I hear Eazy E talk about slapping women and "grabbin them by their nasty azz weave". That sh!t sounds horrible. But who's being more truthful in their music?

Steve Harvey is always putting down music because of its content. Sure Steve, love songs by Earth, Wind, and Fire and the Isley Brothers are food for the soul. But often times life isn't that rosy. There is violence in the streets. There are people out here selling poison to our community to make money. Ask your wife about her ex-husband:sas2:. And hip hop doesn't try to ignore these aspects of life. Even though it may often be hard to hear.
 
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