Rappers gotta chill on the jewelry/money talk...

[bigbadbossup2012]

the overall bottom line is that everything isn't for everybody. if you don't like what a rapper is spittin about, then don't listen. i'd much rather a rapper DO THEM instead of making forced records that just aren't them. that's been a problem in rap since the early 2000s. too many rappers trying too hard to branch out and cater to too many different audiences, and the result is a bunch of phoney records. look at jadakiss.

my problem with braggadocios mainstream rap right now is that all these dudes doing it in the mainstream are redundant as f**k. im not saying that their redundance stems from their subject matter. im saying that their redundance stems from the fact that most of their chit sounds the same and is repetitive. I mean, if youre gonna keep recycling the same topics, at least be creative with it.

case in point, I can listen to the big tymers' catalog from front-to-back, and 80% of their catalog is materialistic as hell. but the chit is so hot, it doesn't matter what theyre rapping about because them dudes was jamming. now, if I get tired of their content, I don't complain about it, I simply move on and listen to somebody else. and heres the beauty of it. I don't have to go far. If I want to hear some enlightening content, I can still keep that mannie fresh groove by simply putting in a juvenile album. and I can continue jammin from there.

and the crazy thing is, the big tymers weren't even rappers. but they had that "IT" in their chit. now do I f*ck with birdman solos? hell no. at least not the ones I heard. he got some heaters but I cant tolerate a whole album of that nicca. not even the ones where fresh did most of the beats. which leads me to my next point.....they need to bring back groups.



this sounds like a personal problem.

like you aren't comfortable in your own skin sometimes or something.





whats that?

hOW U LOVE THAT VOL 2 is my fav cmr record. i feel u.
Although i prefer a wide range of subjects. The real problem is the lack of personality,creativity or just being overall wack.
I can listen to Too $hort's 83'-00" music all day. Is he the best rapper ,naw. Does he have a wide range of subjects,typically no.
But on his best works,he has ill funky beats and when he talks about hoes,he makes it ultra comical,tells interesting stories and/or just gives you a certain psychology about women,player,tricks etc and it's very entertaining and informative. When he deviates from hoes,he still delivers the same level of game spitting about life (the ghetto,life is too short etc).

Like runny ray spoke about big tymers,them nikkas were very funny and though they were just talking shyt,they sounded like no one else. They gave you their perspective,personality humor etc. And musically they made great music.

Problem with music now is that their is no particular perspective per artist.
Too many using the same flow,same type beats,same sense of humor or lack of it. PLUS on a mainstream level everyone is virtually doing the EXACT SAME shyt.
In all honesty the threadstarter does have a point,When this nikka or that nikka was BALLIN OUT,there was other nikkas with similar popularity,doing something different.
When puffy was hot,no limit was hot with street music. Not quite as hot sales wise,but amongst hiphop,they were very hot.

There used to be a whole bunch of popular cliques. Now nikkas just come out with the same music and run to certain artists looking to piggy back their fame off others. Nothing wrong with networking,but people really need their own identity again.
Going into the mid-late 90's going into the early 2000's i remember various cliques popping


No Limit
Bad Boy
Terror squad
Cash Money
Ruff Ryders
Wu-tang
Mo thugs
Aftermath
Disturbing the peace
St. Lunatics
Roc-A-Fella
etc etc.
We got cliques now,but there's a difference. nikkas these days sound too muck alike and they do TOO MANY COLLABORATIONS.
nikkas too desperate

 

[Tuc2DaBoot]

Folks on here are arguing about rap has gotten out of hand yet don't even see the bigger picture of what's going on with rap sales.

The truth of the matter is... the music isn't as respected as it once was. I tried to put y'all on game in that sales thread comparing rap and country/rock sales.

Other genres like country music are selling just fine... and guess what these country singers are doing? Taking the elements of mainstream hip-hop/R&B that white people like (flow, cadence, partying/social themes) and putting into their music. And then outselling your favorite rapper doing it.

It's funny living in the deep South around all these CAC's these days. They will download every new Future and Rick Ross mixtape out then go and buy the physical/iTunes copies of Jason Aldean and Blake Shelton who make country rap music these days. Finding country music online is damn near impossible but you can find every song Future has ever made on Datpiff/Livemixtapes/Hulkshare.

And on top of all that, songs like Thrift Shop, Cruise (Florida Georgia Line), and Boys Round Here (Blake Shelton) are all simple songs about enjoying life without being flashy. And white folks relate to that heavily these days.

So your average rapper can wake up in a new Bugatti now. But his album/single sales ain't got shyt on a dude singing about drinking Bud Light out of a red solo cup.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

If Thrift Shop sold 6million.... a Replica Rapper could get it in. Cuz a lot of nikkas on that fake gucci belt, fake jordans movement

 

[Kalik]

Replica Rapper would be happy selling 2million then say he sold 6million.. :kingtroll:

 

[No1]

Its one thing to stunt, the thing is a nikka like Jay talking about checking the time on his Hublot in the South of France is so far beyond what an avg hood dude or even white teen who actually buys his shyt can relate to its like damn

Growing up u prob knew a nikka with a 600 Benz or a gold chain etc etc. Who do u know with a Hublot? #whouknowwiddaHublot nikkas mite as well be talkin about fukking Martians

I do think competition needs to come back to rap, but not in who can buy the most outlandish shyt... it has to come back in who can make better music. Coming back to ur Lebron metaphor... it would be like if there were a player whose stats were consistently better, and u came back with 'yea but so and so aint got they own sneaker, wheres the endorsements??' nikkas taking vacations on space stations aint got shyt to do with music

Basically you're saying you want cats to act like they're "hood rich" again. The thing is, cats don't want to be that anymore. But I'm still a firm believer in rapping about whatever you want as long as it's good music. Content CAN (not necessarily will) take you to a higher level, but it's good or bad music to me. Nothing more or less.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Replica Rapper would be happy selling 2million then say he sold 6million.. :kingtroll:

He would be signed to the New New New No Limit or SODMG

 

[kermit da hustla]

Its one thing to stunt, the thing is a nikka like Jay talking about checking the time on his Hublot in the South of France is so far beyond what an avg hood dude or even white teen who actually buys his shyt can relate to its like damn

Growing up u prob knew a nikka with a 600 Benz or a gold chain etc etc. Who do u know with a Hublot? #whouknowwiddaHublot nikkas mite as well be talkin about fukking Martians

I do think competition needs to come back to rap, but not in who can buy the most outlandish shyt... it has to come back in who can make better music. Coming back to ur Lebron metaphor... it would be like if there were a player whose stats were consistently better, and u came back with 'yea but so and so aint got they own sneaker, wheres the endorsements??' nikkas taking vacations on space stations aint got shyt to do with music

hublot watches are ugly. crazy that they're so expensive. that just tells you that these nikkas will buy something because it's expensive, even if the shyt ain't hot.

$500,000 for this trash.

 

[Da King]

To ur point, slick rick had a diversity of subjects....if u didnt like his materalistic raps, all u had to do was skip one or two songs. Mainstream rap cats rap about balllin/hedonistic sht 99% of the time.

slick rick the GOAT story teller was talking more then the gold and money every track


something these new rappers can't stop talking about

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

what is your ideal "regular/typical" person, because I have yet to walk out the crib and see a neighborhood full of "regular/typical" folks with bmw/benzes/audi's parked in the driveways..... you sound like your favorite psuedo wealthy MC right now lil fella wisen up. your regular human being is living check to check or BROKE lil fella.
when did it become uncool to push a bmw or a high end benz ? don't give me the competition angle because 97% of them nikkas are not competing with puff jigga or birdman on any financial level....

what u should of said is that most of them rap nikkas are trying to KEEP UP with nikkas like Puff and Birdman who actual have the funds to BUY and OWN Bugatti's..... lil fella there is a reason Puff shytted on all them nikkas on that "same damn time" remix....

but basically what your saying is it's a bunch of nikkas in competion with trying to keep up with actual wealthy folk.....:

So, now you're acting like regular people, with normal jobs... don't own audi's,BMW's, Benz and Acuras?

that whole "what happened to a clean ass Acura or BMW" was the early 90's... Rappers stopped bragging about tricked out SUVs in the mid 2000's, they've been rapping bout pushing Maybachs,Ferraris,Aston Martin's and all types of luxury whips for the last 5-7 years.

I Remember Cube rapping bout a bytch jocking him, cause he lied about having a Benz 190..Trick Daddy rapped about having a 4 door Volvo ..Now dudes like Tyga who aren't anywhere near the top of rap.... have 100k whips.

Rappers are getting more money than they've ever gotten...to the point where Forbes recognizes their earning power, and you're mad that they're rapping about shyt wealthy people own?

Remember back in the day? Man them days been over

 

[Tuc2DaBoot]

hublot watches are ugly. crazy that they're so expensive. that just tells you that these nikkas will buy something because it's expensive, even if the shyt ain't hot.

Of course. nikkas are always more obsessed with the image of having money rather than looking fly/stylish no matter the price.

Just to say you ain't got it. Even Kanye said he bought shyt just to say you ain't up on this.

 

[CoCKy GeNiuS]

So, now you're acting like regular people, with normal jobs... don't own audi's,BMW's, Benz and Acuras?

that whole "what happened to a clean ass Acura or BMW" was the early 90's... Rappers stopped bragging about tricked out SUVs in the mid 2000's, they've been rapping bout pushing Maybachs,Ferraris,Aston Martin's and all types of luxury whips for the last 5-7 years.

I Remember Cube rapping bout a bytch jocking him, cause he lied about having a Benz 190..Trick Daddy rapped about having a 4 door Volvo ..Now dudes like Tyga who aren't anywhere near the top of rap.... have 100k whips.

Rappers are getting more money than they've ever gotten...to the point where Forbes recognizes their earning power, and you're mad that they're rapping about shyt wealthy people own?

Remember back in the day? Man them days been over

your trying to say that the average rapper can AFFORD to buy a couple of 100k whips which isn't true.... nikkas are splurging to appear larger than life in hopes that the audience will buy into their act...

when the fickle fan leaves that same rapper is looking while their manager is somewhere giving them the and puff is STILL somewhere making atleast 10mill a year pushin ciroc wit the face....

 

[Wild self]

this is nothing new.

and its nothing wrong with it.

you don't like, you don't buy.



why listen to those trashmen in the first place?

youre basically asking for it.



youre making a mountain out of a molehill.

if you don't like the chit, then don't rock wit it. plain & simple.

I can meet you halfway and say what ive been saying all along: that theres hasn't been any real diversity on the radio for a while. and as ive been saying for the longest, this is being done purposely in order to dumb down the genre and more importantly, to dumb down black folks.

but to get mad at certain rappers because theyre not making the type of songs that YOU want to hear is corny and is really just some bitter chit. I can see if youre mad at certain rappers that are proven to be capable of making more than just flossy songs, but that's just not in the cards for a lot of these dudes. a lot of the mainstream acts out right now are about as deep as a puddle. I can see that from right here.

Seriously, if you believe that the corny bullshyt is to dumb down black folks, do you think that its an actual conspiracy to use rap music to control the black race?

 

[Street Knowledge]

For me... It has nothing to do with the state of the economy or my pockets. It's just that in 2013 I'm not about to listen to an entire album of dudes bragging about how much money they have.

It's boring and tired. A song or 2? Why not, but not 18 tracks especially when most of these dudes are not even that good

 

[Ronnie Lott]

I simply don't understand how some of y'all get offended or feel some type of way because rappers talk about ballin, money, diamond, flossin etc. People act like this is somethin new. Rappers have been talkin about fashion, cars, money, sex, drugs, bytches since the start of this rap shyt.

Do the same people that get offended by what rappers say, do y'all get upset when y'all see a regular citicen ridin in a bently or lambo?

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

your trying to say that the average rapper can AFFORD to buy a couple of 100k whips which isn't true.... nikkas are splurging to appear larger than life in hopes that the audience will buy into their act...

when the fickle fan leaves that same rapper is looking while their manager is somewhere giving them the and puff is STILL somewhere making atleast 10mill a year pushin ciroc wit the face....

i'm saying that you don't have to be the top rapper anymore to push next level shyt.

Rappers are buying more and more expensive shyt, cause they're making more money.

you want them to live modestly so it makes you feel better about your life?