Rap Music, Brainwashed Youth, and the Power of Hip Hop Culture

[Wild self]

C Delores Tucker tried to tell black folk back in the day, but she was ridiculed by the rappers and leaders of the day. The problem has always been the fact blacks hate no one more than other black people, so its no biggie to hear about killing other blacks in the music.

Rap music has literally become the definition of demonic and it seems i'll be outright banning the music in my househould. Its gonna be either reggae, pop music, or fukking rock and roll for my kids its seems...

IT seems like the chickens come home to roost. All that fukkery that happened in the last 25 years is coming to a head. Negativity has took its height.

Yep. The chickens come home to roost. All

 

[Wild self]

Obviously there were people 'recalling their street experiences' in rap, but it eventually turned into something that influenced a lot of kids to enter into the street life.That whole 'rap is just a reflection of street life and is just reporting the realities of the street' talk is nonsense. A lot of that stuff was going on in the 70s and 80s, but it wasn't glorified in musical form until rap hit.

Even back in the late 80s, you had Public Enemy and Ice Cube speaking on the consequences of negative behavior. After 91 or so, people went on the deep end of glorification of street life. West coast artists lived for that gang colors shyt, while east coast artists went about the mafia shyt. The same old heads that talk about 90s rap are the same ones that try to cover up the fact that they gave birth to ratchedness in Hip Hop.

 

[Robbie3000]

I hate when people make this argument. It greatly exaggerates the power and influence of music and entertainment. The Crack epidemic and rise of gangs and violence started in the mid 80s before hip-hop was mainstream before even "negative" rap music. The crack infused mayhem reached it's zenith in the early 90s when cities like NY had murder rates of 2000+ people.
As Hip-Hop has become more popular and a staple of poplar american culture, we have seen crime and murder rates drop all over the country. NYC had a murder rate of 600 people in 2013. If hip-hop was the pariah the OP makes it out to be, we would expect the opposite.

 

[Danie84]

I'm 29 and Hip-Hop raised me, and I came out civilized

 

[theworldismine13]

I hate when people make this argument. It greatly exaggerates the power and influence of music and entertainment. The Crack epidemic and rise of gangs and violence started in the mid 80s before hip-hop was mainstream before even "negative" rap music. The crack infused mayhem reached it's zenith in the early 90s when cities like NY had murder rates of 2000+ people.
As Hip-Hop has become more popular and a staple of poplar american culture, we have seen crime and murder rates drop all over the country. NYC had a murder rate of 600 people in 2013. If hip-hop was the pariah the OP makes it out to be, we would expect the opposite.

Well again, that is misconstruing the argument, the issue is what impact does rap music has in society, if rap music has no impact then rap music would be the first art form in the history of mankind to not have any impact on society

It's either that or the rap industry has convinced people that it's wrong to have a discussion on the state of black culture

I think what you are saying represents the intellectual dead end that rap has lead black people to

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

I hate when people make this argument. It greatly exaggerates the power and influence of music and entertainment. The Crack epidemic and rise of gangs and violence started in the mid 80s before hip-hop was mainstream before even "negative" rap music. The crack infused mayhem reached it's zenith in the early 90s when cities like NY had murder rates of 2000+ people.
As Hip-Hop has become more popular and a staple of poplar american culture, we have seen crime and murder rates drop all over the country. NYC had a murder rate of 600 people in 2013. If hip-hop was the pariah the OP makes it out to be, we would expect the opposite.

This makes too much sense right here....And to top it all off, the mainstream hip hop that is played today is no where near as violent and derogatory as the albums that were dropping from 1988-2000, but somehow mainstream rap is the culprit behind ill behavior.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Well again, that is misconstruing the argument, the issue is what impact does rap music has in society, if rap music has no impact then rap music would be the first art form in the history of mankind to not have any impact on society

It's either that or the rap industry has convinced people that it's wrong to have a discussion on the state of black culture

I think what you are saying represents the intellectual dead end that rap has lead black people to

What is your argument then? And describe black culture to me?

 

[GetInTheTruck]

I hate when people make this argument. It greatly exaggerates the power and influence of music and entertainment. The Crack epidemic and rise of gangs and violence started in the mid 80s before hip-hop was mainstream before even "negative" rap music. The crack infused mayhem reached it's zenith in the early 90s when cities like NY had murder rates of 2000+ people.
As Hip-Hop has become more popular and a staple of poplar american culture, we have seen crime and murder rates drop all over the country. NYC had a murder rate of 600 people in 2013. If hip-hop was the pariah the OP makes it out to be, we would expect the opposite.

blah blah blah fukkin blah. You can go to any hood USA and see how this garbage ass present-day hip-hop "culture" is influencing the youth. It isn't the CAUSE, but it certainly isn't doing them any favors.

crime in NY took a plunge because we had a mayor who didn't play that shyt, and liberals wanted to hang him for it.

but forget about crime for a second...kids in the hood these days are way stupider than they used to be, in my estimation. They have all these high tech gadgets that we never had but most are dumb as rocks, it's disappointing.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

blah blah blah fukkin blah. You can go to any hood USA and see how this garbage ass present-day hip-hop "culture" is influencing the youth. It isn't the CAUSE, but it certainly isn't doing them any favors.

crime in NY took a plunge because we had a mayor who didn't play that shyt, and liberals wanted to hang him for it.

but forget about crime for a second...kids in the hood these days are way stupider than they used to be, in my estimation. They have all these high tech gadgets that we never had but most are dumb as rocks, it's disappointing.

How does rap have anything to do with kids declining academically?

 

[theworldismine13]

And for the record, of the measly 600 murders in NYC 90 percent of them were black and Latino

If you are white or a government official 600 murders is good news, if you are black it's atrocious

And crime dropping because of an influx of white people and the displacement of black people isn't something that black people should be celebrating

 

[GetInTheTruck]

This makes too much sense right here....And to top it all off, the mainstream hip hop that is played today is no where near as violent and derogatory as the albums that were dropping from 1988-2000, but somehow mainstream rap is the culprit behind ill behavior.

I don't understand why you guys feel that hip-hop is beyond any and all types of criticism. You really feel that music and the popular culture which is now almost solely influenced by hip-hop has absolutely no effect on the youth? what?

and this shyt aint even hip-hop, it's corporate hip-hop. it started to turn in the 90's but that balance was still there. It's gone now, and instead of breeding criminals they are breeding idiots.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

How does rap have anything to do with kids declining academically?

Is this a serious question?

 

[theworldismine13]

How does rap have anything to do with kids declining academically?

By discouraging academic excellence as a form of black identity, by discouraging self analysis, by encouraging looking outside for solutions instead of inward and by encouraging immature behavior past childhood

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Is this a serious question?

Very.....If you feel this way with good reason, it shouldn't be a problem to explain how mainstream raps makes kids "way stupider"(your words, not mine)

 

[theworldismine13]

blah blah blah fukkin blah. You can go to any hood USA and see how this garbage ass present-day hip-hop "culture" is influencing the youth. It isn't the CAUSE, but it certainly isn't doing them any favors.

crime in NY took a plunge because we had a mayor who didn't play that shyt, and liberals wanted to hang him for it.

but forget about crime for a second...kids in the hood these days are way stupider than they used to be, in my estimation. They have all these high tech gadgets that we never had but most are dumb as rocks, it's disappointing.

Yep, the main lesson of the past ten years is that if you stop and frisk blacks and Latinos and jail them and give them large sentences for every infraction and bring in white people to take over black neighborhoods crime will drop

It's not a good look or anything to be celebrating