Rap Music, Brainwashed Youth, and the Power of Hip Hop Culture

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The fact that Rick Ross is a popular artist lets you know that street cred is not required.....Street cred was required in rap's infancy if you talked about doing dirt on wax....But once NWA went double plat, credibility went out of the window, and every label head was manafacturing the next gangster rapper.

That stuff you hear on wax sometimes about cats calling each other out about not being real or claiming to be harder than the next really doesn't happen like that in real life...The most dangerous cats don't even look tough for real, and it don't matter if you got 60 bodies, if someone decided they wanted what you had, it was going to be a problem, regardless of whatever your reputation may have been...

I've seen so called Gators get popped by nobodies or dope fiends....All that tough talk and barking would get you dealt with real quick back in the day....

i feel u but the kids dont know that. kids know that movies and video games are make believe, but they also know there is a very good chance that rapper really did sell those drugs, shoot that dude, and fukked his mom. they get a thrill out of the perceived realism. the worst of these kids from the broken homes and most hopeless of situations clings on to this fantasy and makes it his reality. he says "i aint gonna make it and working for ups is corny so ima sell these drugs and bang wit my homeys til my rap career takes off" anybody here from the hood knows at least 2 or 3 dudes with this type of mindset.
 

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Crime has gone down across the board and that is a fact. I used the example of the murder rate in NYC. This is a downward trend not only in gentrified areas but across the city. Even in depressed places like Brownsville and the Bronx the murder rate is declining.

Is it down to preferred levels? no, but the trends are encouraging.

i wasnt disputing the crime statistics, i was just explaining that those states came about because of mass incarceration, heavy police patrolling and displacing black people, and in some places in NYC the crime rate is the same

it isnt something to celebrate, one because there are still pockets of high crime and they are all black or latino and two the policies that brought crime down weigh heavily on black people

at the end of day black people have to fix black neighborhoods, and to do that IMO its important to discuss how music effects the way black youth behave and their outlook on life, because for black youth rap is an identity not just entertainment

just in general any culture that does not analyze itself is a dying culture, just off that alone the discussion is important and also if what yall saying is true, black people would the first people in human civilization whose art has no impact on how people think, there has never existed a society like that, in every society that has ever existed art and society have a symbiotic relationship, the notion that rap is simply a one way street that simply reflects society and doesnt impact society is simply false
 

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At the beginning of mean streets
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I hate when people make this argument. It greatly exaggerates the power and influence of music and entertainment. The Crack epidemic and rise of gangs and violence started in the mid 80s before hip-hop was mainstream before even "negative" rap music. The crack infused mayhem reached it's zenith in the early 90s when cities like NY had murder rates of 2000+ people.
As Hip-Hop has become more popular and a staple of poplar american culture, we have seen crime and murder rates drop all over the country. NYC had a murder rate of 600 people in 2013. If hip-hop was the pariah the OP makes it out to be, we would expect the opposite.

Yeah I remember growing up during the Crack Epidemic, (white) America likes using hip hop as a scape goat even though they littered our communities with crack. To the point where nikkas would brag about being coke dealers knowing full well that's what truly destroyed our communities. Blacks always get blamed for our own problems knowing full well who has the reigns. Hip hop is our music, it's our last dying art form that's truly black dominated, they took everything else away from us. But with hip hop culture, like someone else mentioned, it started steering in the direction of glorifying things like drug dealin and murderin people and shyt.



C Delores Tucker tried to tell black folk back in the day, but she was ridiculed by the rappers and leaders of the day. The problem has always been the fact blacks hate no one more than other black people, so its no biggie to hear about killing other blacks in the music.

Rap music has literally become the definition of demonic and it seems i'll be outright banning the music in my househould. Its gonna be either reggae, pop music, or fukking rock and roll for my kids its seems...:manny:

I remember when Tupac dissed her on How Do You Want It :pachaha: These nikkas just went in on her even though what she said was fair and legit. Hip hop right now is harmless compared to back in the day when rappers would describe killing cops and shyt in hella detail. :merchant: In my opinion, it's still destructive, but hip hop is merely a scapegoat and entirely pop and cookie cutter now.
 

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I don't know man...As fraudulent as Officer Ricky may be, from a rap standpoint he does make solid records, but that's just me....
once the machine gets a hold of anything and puts the muscle promotion behind it we'll love it.
 

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your favorite rapper ricky raws survived 50's onslaught cause he's been working overtime suckin jewish dyck

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who knows what else he's doing behind closed doors.
all of them french, ricky been callin for illuminati support just to appear successful to the public.
these munkies will do anything for fame.


Though I am not cool with bashing jews any more than I am down with whites bashing my people:

Ross did say Villa on the water with the wonderful views
Only fat nikka in the sauna with Jews

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:what: The bolded is just retarded. Gentrification most certainly does reduce poverty in the area being affected. Visit Bedstuy or any other gentrified area or look at the median incomes in that area and they are guaranteed to be much higher than they were before.

As for your second point, you did not say "culture" you said music specifically. I have just shown how crime has been declining even as the music has become ever more popular. So obviously the effect of music on culture and in turn on crime is dubious at best.

Gentrification doesn't reduce poverty, it displace poverty elsewhere. When you mention Harlem mention that anglos moved in and moved some blacks.
 

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Malice Accepts The Truth: "Everything Negative Going On, I've Been A Part Of That"

What's important to me is that I don't come off as preachy or that I don't come off in such a way that I'm telling someone how to live when I go to schools and colleges to give presentations. I go and tell them my life story and let people see what I've gone through. What's important to me is that I share my story and I think that's the best testimony. It's sharing my personal story.

I don't think I have all of the answers but I want to let people know this is where I'm at, this is what happened to my manager, this is what happened to our entourage, this is what happened to our friends. You gotta know the whole entire story.

If you like my story, I want you to hear it. If you don't like it, then you can tune me out. It's all good. But I just want to make sure that I don't come off as a finger-pointer or shaking my finger at anyone.

I understand hip-hop and a lot of the music that's out now because I've done that. I've done that. Everything negative going on [in hip-hop], I've been a part of that as well. So I can't forget that at all. It comes a time, as in life, where you should always be growing.

Everyone makes mistakes and if you learn from those mistakes, that's the best thing that can happen.

Me and my brother's clothing line, Play Cloths, is still going and it's still being manufactured and it's hot. Play Cloths is doing really well for us and every season, we got new stuff coming out. Play Cloths has definitely been a blessing and everyone's been rocking it.

http://www.sohh.com/2013/10/no_malice_accepts_the_truth_everything_n.html
 
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@Kritic the older I get the more and more you understand the older folks(even though they are ignorant sometimes about grouping every rapper together) who ridicule a lot of rappers for not playing instruments. I mean if you ever just did a random shuffle on your playlist or just watched youtube videos of older classic artists it becomes a little embarrassing. Even at highlight moments, like imagine how much better if Nas had played the sax himself on "Stay".
 
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