R&B and Soul is the secret kryptonite to Hip Hop culture vultures

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I think cacs and other non-blacks dislike R&B because it humanizes black people of being capable of basic human emotions like love and compassion. Whites and non-blacks believe blacks are hyperviolent, hyper sexual savages uncapable of love, hard work and being a decent human being. Hip Hop confirms whites negative stereotypes of black people. Nerdy cacs who listen to ATCQ and De La Soul are like "hey these black guys are different from all of the other savages rapping about guns, bytches and money".

R&B definitely always had a higher standard than Hip Hop too. I always noticed male R&B singers always even dressed better than rappers. :dame:Back in the early 2000's when rappers were wearing 8XL throwback dresses and white togas with size 48 Girbauds, R&B singers were already wearing fitted high end designer clothes. Puffy and Kanye borrowing from the R&B swag in the early 2000's forced Hip Hop to grow up a little bit more every year.

Now you wonder why everyone has tattoos on their eyeballs and the biggest rappers are bunch of weirdo Mexicans with rainbow hair.:comeon:Its because Rap has been allowed to devolve into a complete minstrel show without the counterbalance of ungentrified pure unadulterated soul. :why:

But not all non-blacks oblivious to R&B. I'm from Cali and Mexicans been jocking Funk music for decades. Most non-blacks in Cali only know about Soul because they actually lived in close contact with a lot of black people like Mexicans in L.A. county or Asians in Oakland. Culture vultures like Pete Rosenberg know nothing about Soul because he grew up in a rich ass white Jewish enclave of white ass suburban ass cultureless racist ass Montgomery County, MD and clearly didn't even listen to golden era Hip Hop when it was new in the early 90's, otherwise he would be praising Jodeci and Mary J in the same breath as Tribe and Wu-Tang because urban radio played their music back to back. :ohhh:Rosenberg was definitely listening to Nirvana and Pearl Jam in 1994 just like all the other "Rap is crap" cacs back then and started liking Wu and Tribe when black people stopped listening to them in the late 90's-early 2000's. Classic stuff white people like cac move.

What's funny is that cacs who read liner notes have no respect for classic R&B. Look up classic sampled R&B tracks from the 70's and 80's on Youtube and the comments are full of cacs quoting the rhymes of the rappers who sampled them. R&B is old black man music to cacs. Cacs don't know cookout music because they never been invited to the cookout, literally. :feedme:
 
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That shyt doesn't mean anything. A culture vulture is anybody who just uses rap to get paid while not contributing anything to the culture and running it down to the ground. Damon Dash is a prime example of that. Diddy is a culture vulture. To suggest that someone needs to be black or have to listen to r&b and soul in order to not be a culture vulture is dumb. It's being biased. The thing that makes Rosenberg bad for the culture is like dame and Diddy. He exploits the culture to get paid with no respect to the culture in itself. He doesn't do his Googles. He doesn't know what he's talking, clear is an exploitationist using this shyt as a come up and tries to christen himself as some gatekeeper. Funk flex exposed him when rosenberg tried to come for him.

Notice that dame and Diddy only came out mentioning who is a culture vulture and such and caring about rap when they weren't on top anymore. When they were at their heyday, it was all good pumping all this trash, pushing it to the mainstream, encouraging more people to exploit it, disrespecting legends and etc etc. Folks literally created a monster and are now mad that they can't control it anymore despite the fact that they didn't do anything to preserve that shyt.
 
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You're more likely to be exposed to this if you're black. It took me a lot longer to be exposed to and learn about older r&b and soul. Some of this is just tracing stuff back from hip-hop samples and references. Getting into collecting records, having older black coworkers, making beats, you can really extend your appreciation and knowledge of this stuff. You really can't be a real hip-hop fan I feel if you don't have some respect and interest in older rhb, soul, funk, disco, boogie etc
 

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I think cacs and other non-blacks dislike R&B because it humanizs black people of being capable of basic human emotions like love and compassion. Whites and non-blacks believe blacks are hyperviolent, hyper sexual savages uncapable of love, hard work and being a decent human being. Hip Hop confirms whites negative stereotypes of black people. Nerdy cacs who listen to ATCQ and De La Soul are like "hey these black guys are different from all of the other savages rapping about guns, bytches and money".

R&B definitely always had a higher standard than Hip Hop too. I always noticed male R&B singers always even dressed better than rappers. :dame:Back in the early 2000's when rappers were wearing 8XL throwback dresses and white togas with size 48 Girbauds, R&B singers were already wearing fitted high end designer clothes. Puffy and Kanye borrowing from the R&B swag in the early 2000's forced Hip Hop to grow up and little bit more every year.

Now you wonder why everyone has tattoos on their eyeballs and the biggest rappers are bunch of weirdo Mexicans with rainbow hair.:comeon:Its because Rap has been allowed to devolve into a complete minstrel show the counterbalance of ungentrified pure unadulterated soul. :why:

But not all non-blacks oblivious to R&B. I'm from Cali and Mexicans been jocking Funk music for decades. Most non-blacks in Cali only know about Soul because they actually lived in close contact with a lot of black people like Mexicans in L.A. county or Asians in Oakland. Culture vultures like Pete Rosenberg know nothing about Soul because he grew up in a white Jewish enclave of white ass racist sass Monygomery County, MD and clearly didn't even listen to golden era Hip Hop when it was new in the early 90's, otherwise he would be praising Jodeci and Mary J in the same breath as Tribe and Wu-Tang because urban radio played their music back to back. :ohhh:Rosenberg was definitely listening to Nirvana and Pearl Jam in 1994 just like all the other "Rap is crap" cacs back then and started liking Wu and Tribe when black people stopped listening to them in the early 2000's. Classic stuff white people like cac move.

What's funny is that cacs who read liner notes have no respect for classic R&B. Look up classic sampled R&B tracks from the 70's and 80's and the comments are full of cacs quoting the rhymes of the rappers who sampled them. R&B is old black man music to cacs. Cacs don't know cookout music because they never been invited to the cookout, literally. :feedme:
Idk about that. White people loooooove r&b and soul music. Always have
 

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My favorite summer jam is still "Before I let Go". It just does something to you.



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Honestly...I fukking hate this song now because I've heard it SO MUCH growing up at family functions and outside of them. :timmyimout:

So yeah, OP is on point like a motherfukker :heh:
 

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I was thinking the other day, one reason why Drake is as successful of a hip hop artist/singer and rapper as he is today is because his knowledge of old r&b music.

His sound is rooted in it. You can tell he came up off it or at least studied it.

Drake’s one of the few mainstream rappers to still have that influence and he’s somewhat carrying on that r&b tradition in modern day hip hop.

He has a good ear and appreciation for classic old school and even more current r&b songs And he generally works with artists/producers who share his same taste or are just as or more talented (party next door)

Perfect example is his obsession with Aaliyah....:manny:

And then there’s songs like this



Culture vultures probably hated this song and skipped it.

And rap fans can hate on Drake for being soft and emotional or whatever but who else with his fan base is really making music like this?

He really has a love and respect for black American (even international) r&b soul history and it shows in his music..... but only if you know enough yourself to realize it beneath the surface.

There is no good “hip hop” without it being rooted in or influenced by R&b/soul/gospel/funk/Jazz etc....

Nice thread:salute:
 
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