R&B and Soul is the secret kryptonite to Hip Hop culture vultures

[BXKingPin82]

I was gettin so much p*ssy back in the day with all them dope ass rnb joints.
Mad abortions!


Lil Kingpin made it out alive tho!!
:noreha:

 

[DoubleClutch]

Yea i remember on some old show Drake showed off his CD collection and one of the albums was Boys II Men's "II" album. Dude definitely has an appreciation for r&b.

Thats one of my personal fav albums also.

yea i think he got influenced by 90's R&B most.Some of his biggest hits are with 1990's samples



and even before he blew up, he was on that neo soul vibe

 

[Jim Cornette]

cool story op

you need one of these

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

You're 100% correct.A lot of hit dogs about to be barking in this thread!

Just sit back and watch em expose themselves

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Some of y'all are half-right...

the "CACs" y'all speak of that don't know or care about R&B... are particularly white men.

White women (especially those around our age group) have been on R&B music forever. Matter fact, they care for the R&B shyt way more than they do hip-hop. And if they came up in the 90s, they know all that shyt. I've known some white chicks who know their shyt, it's far less common to know a white dude who knows it. Them dudes usually went straight from rock music to hip-hop as teenagers. One year they were on Pearl Jam, next year they were on Ice Cube. The girls on the other hand were probably listening to pop music and then transitioned into R&B (with Michael, Janet, and Whitney usually being the gateway) .

rockist thinking white men but the country white guys are different



^^one listen to that and you can tell he grew up on/is a fan of black, southern soul

 

[IllmaticDelta]

White people being true fans of r&b soul are really anomalies, so bringing up examples are pointless.

I wouldn't say they're anomalies considering an entire time period of "white" music or white genres of music was born because of white people listening to r&b soul music

More than that, these are the prime examples of people that enjoy black culture, but want nothing to do with black people, so they still end up being vultures of culture. People that feed and nurture themselves off of the products of the black experience are plenty. You can go all over the world and find people that indulge in black art, black music, black literature and turn the other cheek when it comes to the societal ills we face, while simultaneously finding joy and pleasure in the end products that came out of those injustices.

this is true but if we stuck to music, it's pretty easy to highlight those whites who payed respects, put on and helped blacks acts etc...and those that didn't

A vulture is a animal that feeds off of weakened or dead animals to feed and nourish themselves.

Black art came from many black artists who, for the most part, were brought up in poverty and/or injustice, yet still found a way to create beautiful things, despite getting the short end of the stick. This is especially true in America. We come from communities that have been intentionally weakened and continually destroyed.

The trail of black pain, black blood and black bodies that have accumulated in this country, which creates the canvas for artists to paint the pictures that stir the soul for a 5 minute song is unfathomable...

So when you post these anomalies of white or non black people "truly appreciating" black music, it's mostly hollow. They can enjoy it one dimensionally for the melodies, harmonies, lyrics and syncopation, but for us, it's more than music....it's the entire experience we've gone through...somehow made beautiful. For a few moments we can live our truth, good bad and ugly, and let the music allow us to celebrate it all. That's why it is a culture. Corporations have monetized it and packaged it for all to consume, but for the people that understand it from a level of day to day functionality ingrained in our way of life, the songs are our hope and validation.

true but of course, it's our culture

 

[CHAIN]

Tariq spoke on this yesterday.

 

[010101]

a lot of record nerds record snobs be euros



they be really digging & finding gems

meanwhile they try & pigeonhole us to this new mumble rap microwave music bs

they out there getting deeply educated musically while they let the masses stay ignant

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[trillanova]

Tariq spoke on this yesterday.

Tariq spoke on this yesterday.

He reads thecoli regularly...

 

[Zero]

Tariq spoke on this yesterday.

Give up game for free brehs

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Maybe

All I know is without Rap Genius and WhoSampled, a lot of cats would be out of the loop

Breh, when I was comin' up (70's baby......), we used to play a game called 'Guess the Sample' while smoking/drinking in the early-mid 80's.

There was NO INTERNET!!!!!!!! You just had to know your shyt and/or listen to the radio and watch Soul Train.

Luckily, I grew up in a household full of stuff like this......







Especially this......



Funny thing is.....I USED TO HATE THIS STUFF BECAUSE IT WAS TOO SLOW!!!!!

Now, I just hope that kids today realize they're being robbed by an industry that doesn't care about quality anymore and are just forcing them to listen to whatever garbage has a catchy beat and multiple references to sex/drugs/violence and not one hint of actual soul.

I'm not impressed by most of the hip-hop that I hear nowadays, but I'm sorely disappointed in what has happened to RnB/Soul.​

 

[MisterMajesty]

Not gon lie, I grew up on a whooooooooooole of Prince an reggae (UK breh here), but I desperately need to get up on RnB, what are the albums you brehs recommend?

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Not gon lie, I grew up on a whooooooooooole of Prince an reggae (UK breh here), but I desperately need to get up on RnB, what are the albums you brehs recommend?

Here's one I'd recommend........



Pretty much EVERY ALBUM this group has made should be listened to at least once.

Oh, and just because I still play that game in my head when I listen to ANY song.........the first 10 seconds of this song will sound familiar.........



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[Greenstrings]

Yeah right. What cac you know nerds out about Frankie Beverly and Maze, SOS Band and ConFunkShun the same way the average cac "Hip Hop head" nerds out about Wu Tang, Tribe Called Quest and Boot Camp? What cac you know love Teena Marie as much as Eminem? Cacs don't like white artists who genuinely love black people and black culture like Teena Marie. Cacs love Eminem because he stayed white even though he lived in the blackest big city in America. Where are all the white R&B nerds who try to educate everyone about "real R&B"? The don't exist. R&B takes a lot of talent so there always have been less culture vultures making legit R&B music. Culture vultures like Robin Thicke have been put in their proper place. R&B to cacs is like the NBA. They aren't too many white fans because there haven't been any good star white players in a long time and just like the NBA, some of the best white players of all time aren't even white Americans (i.e. Average White Band). Whites don't have enough soul to conquer R&B so they watered it down to create modern Pop music and killed R&B in the process.

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Robin Thicke's career trajectory has to contain some of the greatest irony you'll find anywhere cause perception of him is exactly what you say which is crazy cause dude came up legit and was grinding for years before he had his break even with the Hollywood famous dad. It wasn't until the drama surrounding Blurred Lines overshadowed everything he did before that he got the culture vulture tag despite having put in enough work to have avoided it.

Most don't know that he started off in the industry way back contributing to great R&B tracks behind the scenes.

There are many deserving of the culture vulture tag, but in Thicke's case it isn't that straightforward.

Robin Thicke production discography - Wikipedia
1994[edit]
Brandy - Brandy[edit]

• 12. "Love Is On My Side" (written with Damon Thomas; backing vocals)[1]

1995[edit]
3T - Brotherhood[edit]

• 06. "Sexual Attention" (written with Damon Thomas)[2]

Brian McKnight - I Remember You[edit]

• 05. "Anyway" (written with Brian McKnight)[3]

1996[edit]
Color Me Badd - Now and Forever[edit]

• 01. "Sexual Capacity" (as Rob Thicke, written with Christopher A. Stewart, and Sean K. Hall; produced with Sean "Sep" Hall)[4]

1997[edit]
Brownstone - Still Climbing[edit]

• 08. "Around You" (writer; produced with Gerry Brown; backing vocals)[5]

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

White people being true fans of r&b soul are really anomalies, so bringing up examples are pointless.

In the south... an anomaly? maybe..... but if we’re talking about O.G. Blues, and funk/soul.. then that’s a lil different.....

It’s a lot of musicianship in the south.... it’s mad old white men that are huge Motown fans..... doesn’t take nothing away from your original post tho...