Essential Quick Lil Gems on Dealing with Women

[kevm3]

Honestly man, treat women like women. Ignore all of that cultural nonsense in an attempt to get in with the woman. If you are fly, all of that cultural stuff goes right out the window and she'll just be interested in knowing you.

The key is to just get up and talk to them regardless of their race. If you start trying to cater yourself to a specific race, you are losing the game, because you never really know what the next woman will like and you will look like one of those lames that try too hard to 'be down' with their culture. I can say asians like this on average, bla bla bla, but you might miss the asian that was meant for you because you were trying to play this role while she would have really been interested in who you really were.

What I will say is that in your own personal experiences, when you are out and about, you will start to notice that certain races of women seem to be more attracted to you in general. Me being black and asian, I notice with myself and a lot of other black and asians is that a lot of latinas are attracted to us... brown and dark skinned girls too... but me being light skinned, I will typically have a disadvantage with light skinned black women because on average, they will prefer a dark dude. That doesn't mean I automatically write them off, but that's just what naturally comes my way.

Any woman you come across, interact in the way that comes most natural to you. That's kind of like a white girl being interested in you and instead of coming at you as a normal person, she thinks oh he's black and comes up to you like, "What up yo? You like pac? Can i chill with you and the homies?" You gonna be like man who in the world is this? What you CAN do is just learn about different cultures so you have different conversation points or even if you don't know about her culture, it can be another conversation point to ask her about hers... When it comes down to it man, women are women and if you are a man that handles yours, you will have women of all different races interested in you. You may have slight advantages and disadvantages based on your skin color or mannerisms in general, but ultimately, those factors are irrelevant in lieu of you just being at ease with how you handle yourself.

 

[Nintendough]

If you sense bitterness, run.

 

[Rocket Scientist]

I think it's time for the thread to evolve and to become more interactive. I think it's time the students start asking questions.


For the OGs in this thread who've been contributing heat, I got one for ya'll.

Through your experiences and observations in life, is there any key things ya'll noticed when it comes to dealing with specific races/ethnicities of women? Certain things a Latina might value more than an Asian typically for example.

Some fleshed out views on the sistas, latinas, beckies, asians and even middle eastern chicks would be dope. I'm all about black beauty, but I'd be lying if I said I don't have an interest in all flavors. Even if I don't fukk outside my race, I think being knowledgeable about different types of cultures and how it might affect the game is infinitely valuable.

I feel the FOUNDATION has been laid down as well it can be and it's time to build on that.

Good ?.... I dated women of all races,ethnicies,religion and outside of skin color and culture.Women are women.Whatever you like and attract...is just your preference . Not all sistas are hoodrats,not all white women are racist etc...you just have to find the one for you. I must say no offense to white women,those are the hardest to get serious with.The heat you get from your own fam,sistas rollin their eye at you where you go,bigotry etc...its crazy

 

[HelgaPataki]

,sistas rollin their eye at you where you go

 

[Scustin Trillberlake]

Brehs, why do women flake so much? I am truly baffled by this.

 

[Rocket Scientist]

hey it happens..

 

[the cool]

got this girls number last week and we started texting each other. today she ended convos with just lol or one two word answers. deleted her off my phonebook

thanks coli

 

[Nintendough]

Brehs, why do women flake so much? I am truly baffled by this.

Its a form of testing. If a man carries himself in a way that lets it be known that he doesn't tolerate any form of disrespect, it isn't going to happen as much. When it happens twice, its already a habit. When it becomes a habit, move on.

 

[winb83]

Brehs, why do women flake so much? I am truly baffled by this.

women use men for attention. they'll lead a guy on up until a certain point just to see him chase her. it boost their self esteem temporarily to have men want them. many of these guys are either plan b or she was never gonna go out with him in the first place.

got this girls number last week and we started texting each other. today she ended convos with just lol or one two word answers. deleted her off my phonebook

thanks coli

stop texting women unless you're setting up a face to face. texting is not a legitimate form of communication it takes little to no investment or involvement to text.

 

[Sharp]

stop texting women unless you're setting up a face to face. texting is not a legitimate form of communication it takes little to no investment or involvement to text.

Texting should be done once you've been out with the women before.

Even phone conversations should be minimal. Women will try to keep you on the phone for hours in the beginning in attempts to extract information.

Keep all phonecalls and communication brief and to the point. Remember, the more time she spends with you on the phone, the less time she will spend with you in person.

Keep that mystique about you, that way she knows that you have to hang in person in order for her to get to know you.

But you should take these text/phone convos to extract info from her.

 

[winb83]

Texting should be done once you've been out with the women before.

Even phone conversations should be minimal. Women will try to keep you on the phone for hours in the beginning in attempts to extract information.

Keep all phonecalls and communication brief and to the point. Remember, the more time she spends with you on the phone, the less time she will spend with you in person.

Keep that mystique about you, that way she knows that you have to hang in person in order for her to get to know you.

But you should take these text/phone convos to extract info from her.

a man has to feel like my time is too important for these impersonal forms of communication. these women are using smartphones to juggle 20 guys at the same time and men are all too happy thinking i'm talking to her so i matter.

if its not face to face at this point in time then she's probably wasting your time. face to face requires investment on her part and then when you see her you gotta check her about the phone cause if not she'll constantly be on it.

 

[Versa]

Okay, here's my next question for you guys.

I was looking through my phone contacts today and would say there are 7 girls in there(not including my mom, family, etc) who are female friends. Platonic female friends, mind you.

Now I will say about 6 of those 7 female friends are women I've had an interest in dating, fukking, or all of the above at some point in my life. In the not so deep recesses of my mind, there's probably still a few I would pipe down if given the chance.

However, with all of them I have failed miserably. I've

1. simped them

2. been shy to make a move on any of them

3. flat out lied about my feelings sometimes

4. felt inadequate, unworthy of them and therefore never even embraced the idea of thinking they could possibly feel similarly

and all sorts of The Coli "dealing with women thread" violations.

How should I go about dealing with these women from this point forward? Chalk it up as a lost and don't worry about it or what? I've decided from now on that any woman I am make time to get to know is strictly for a relationship or sex - none of this "to be friends" bull shyt, but what about the female friends I have now? For some of these chicks I've been in the friend zone for YEARS and probably stand no chance of ever getting out. Should I continue to use them as I have been - a valuable unbiased resource for dealing with females and overall good friends, or should I try to fukk some of them?

They're dope people and good friends, but they're all constant reminders of how bad I've fukked up in the past when it comes to dealing with women. I don't want anymore female friends brehs. I barely even want the ones I have now. Any female friend I make from this day forward is a major failure on my behalf. In fact, I plan on cutting them off when I even detect that friend zone bull shyt coming my way.

 

[Sharp]

Okay, here's my next question for you guys.

I was looking through my phone contacts today and would say there are 7 girls in there(not including my mom, family, etc) who are female friends. Platonic female friends, mind you.

Now I will say about 6 of those 7 female friends are women I've had an interest in dating, fukking, or all of the above at some point in my life. In the not so deep recesses of my mind, there's probably still a few I would pipe down if given the chance.

However, with all of them I have failed miserably. I've

1. simped them

2. been shy to make a move on any of them

3. flat out lied about my feelings sometimes

4. felt inadequate, unworthy of them and therefore never even embraced the idea of thinking they could possibly feel similarly

and all sorts of The Coli "dealing with women thread" violations.

How should I go about dealing with these women from this point forward? Chalk it up as a lost and don't worry about it or what? I've decided from now on that any woman I am make time to get to know is strictly for a relationship or sex - none of this "to be friends" bull shyt, but what about the female friends I have now? For some of these chicks I've been in the friend zone for YEARS and probably stand no chance of ever getting out. Should I continue to use them as I have been - a valuable unbiased resource for dealing with females and overall good friends, or should I try to fukk some of them?

They're dope people and good friends, but they're all constant reminders of how bad I've fukked up in the past when it comes to dealing with women. I don't want anymore female friends brehs. I barely even want the ones I have now. Any female friend I make from this day forward is a major failure on my behalf. In fact, I plan on cutting them off when I even detect that friend zone bull shyt coming my way.

Continue to work on yourself. Everybody is attracted to greatness. Ok, so you fukked up with women in the past.. I mean we all have.

I always tell people, sit back and think about the person that you want to become and then be that person. Think about the bad habits and traits that you have that might sabotage your success and begin to control and minimize them. For example, you said you were too shy to move on them. people who are shy are usually afraid of rejection. If you want to get over shyness, you must build confidence in yourself and approach women being direct and concise. Most men are terrified because they're always worrying about what line can they kick to a female to get her attention. No lines homie. Give her a compliment, tell her your name, and why you're approaching her. That simple. Remember, eye contact first. If you do it with style and confidence your odds have increased. Women know if they're going to talk to you before you even make your move. Keep this in mind.

At this point, you have to learn how to use the friendship zone thing to your advantage. Keep your female friends strictly as female friends for the moment. Any girl they bring around you, you use all of these gems we dropped in her on them. By default your female friend will be curious when she sees how you scoop up her friends and how her friends brag about you. She will be somewhat jealous because even though you were never with her, she's going to feel that she had you first and these other chicks are invading her space. Remember, they didn't give you the opportunity, so it is up to them to make it right.

As far as keeping future women out of friendship zone, be direct, concise and not afraid to sever all ties if you're not getting the response that you. want.

 

[Mr. Pink]

At this point, you have to learn how to use the friendship zone thing to your advantage. Keep your female friends strictly as female friends for the moment. Any girl they bring around you, you use all of these gems we dropped in her on them. By default your female friend will be curious when she sees how you scoop up her friends and how her friends brag about you. She will be somewhat jealous because even though you were never with her, she's going to feel that she had you first and these other chicks are invading her space. Remember, they didn't give you the opportunity, so it is up to them to make it right.

This.

@Vesra

It's a classic 'conundrum' for those that had problems pulling women in the past but who are presently able to pull quality women because they made an effort to improve themselves/become good at the game. Many feel the need to revisit past failures(either because they got rejected or because they never actually made a move). The reasons are many, ranging from getting "revenge" to "prove myself that I can" to just plain old convenience.

Now the question is: should they go for those women again and 'do it right this time'?

For my money, I'd say no. Ultimately no woman(or man) is unique. Even if those were quality women, chances are you'll meet quality women again and this time you'll actually be able to succeed with them. A downside is that there is no guarantee of success: even if you presently 'have game' there's no telling how bad you fukked shyt up in the past. It may have been irrevocably. The truth of the matter is that if you've displayed unattractive behaviour/qualities to women before, and in many cases over the course of months or even years, there's just no chance that she will be attracted to you again. It is what it is.

That being said, if you do decide to pursue them, I'd reccomend a more passive approach. Don't hit on them right away. Think of it from their perspective: their safe, accomodating, nice guy "buddy" who's been a "gentleman" for years and never had the courage to overtly make a move on her suddenly does. It's going to freak her out.

Instead what you should do is subtly make her aware of your "new self", without bragging or trying to impress her.

-if you're simping, stop it immediately. If she remarks on it, asks you if something's changed, if you're upset etc. Deny. Tell her you don't know what she's talking about. Whatever you do don't be hostile to her. Just play the fool. Your new behaviour will pique her curiosity. She'll start paying attention to you. More attention than before, at least.

-the next step is to make her aware of your new found success with women. Again, don't make it seem as if you're purposely trying to impress her. It should appear natural. If she has friends, hit on them. Ask her about them. Hit on other women in her presence. Occasionally if you two have plans cancel them and tell her you have a date(could be true or not)

-be open to her about sex. Talk about it casually. In most cases the guys that have played the "nice guy/perfect gentleman" role are too shy to talk opnely about sex, for fear of 'offending' the woman or ruining their 'gentleman' image. Change it up. It's time she sees you as a sexual being and not just her safe pg-13 buddy.

Now at this point if you've done everything right she'll be very intrigued by you and maybe even jealous. She'll start dropping hints. Now is the time to make your move. Be very direct and unapologetic. Don't beat around the bush anymore, tell her exactly what you're looking for and whatever you do, don't get defensive if she starts testing you. That will instantly kill all of your efforts.

Like I said previously, even if you do everything right there's still a chance she won't bite, for a number of reasons. Mainly because your 'past self' left things FUBAR.
If it happens don't be upset, and don't be hostile to her. Chalk it up to the game. You don't need her, so don't lose any sleep over this "rejection". Someone else will come along. You learned your lessons and are now able to pull quality women.

 

[Nintendough]

Okay, here's my next question for you guys.

I was looking through my phone contacts today and would say there are 7 girls in there(not including my mom, family, etc) who are female friends. Platonic female friends, mind you.

Now I will say about 6 of those 7 female friends are women I've had an interest in dating, fukking, or all of the above at some point in my life. In the not so deep recesses of my mind, there's probably still a few I would pipe down if given the chance.

However, with all of them I have failed miserably. I've

1. simped them

2. been shy to make a move on any of them

3. flat out lied about my feelings sometimes

4. felt inadequate, unworthy of them and therefore never even embraced the idea of thinking they could possibly feel similarly

and all sorts of The Coli "dealing with women thread" violations.

How should I go about dealing with these women from this point forward? Chalk it up as a lost and don't worry about it or what? I've decided from now on that any woman I am make time to get to know is strictly for a relationship or sex - none of this "to be friends" bull shyt, but what about the female friends I have now? For some of these chicks I've been in the friend zone for YEARS and probably stand no chance of ever getting out. Should I continue to use them as I have been - a valuable unbiased resource for dealing with females and overall good friends, or should I try to fukk some of them?

They're dope people and good friends, but they're all constant reminders of how bad I've fukked up in the past when it comes to dealing with women. I don't want anymore female friends brehs. I barely even want the ones I have now. Any female friend I make from this day forward is a major failure on my behalf. In fact, I plan on cutting them off when I even detect that friend zone bull shyt coming my way.

Most of them aren't going to give you play, lets get that out of the way. You're going to have to switch it up and carry yourself with a different demeanor. Don't simp at all, don't even consider it. Being shy has to be thrown in the bushes, its better to be too bold than too shy. You should try to get with the two friends you have done the lease amount of simpery with.