You can still be cool with a woman that you wanted to get at before. You just have to have the common sense of not letting yourself get caught up in that mindset of you MUST have her. If she doesn't ever want to move up on another level, cool,. but if she is cordial and respectful to me then we can still be cool Ain't no need for me to get mad at a woman that turns me down. Maybe she doesn't want to mess with me on that level, but she's cool at dealing with me on another level. With her doing that, we can be cool, but she just ain't going to get the benefits that a woman dealing with me on the other level is going to get. Now if you can't help yourself when you're around these women and you start getting angry when they don't let you move on to that other level, then yea, cut them off... or if they're just sitting around trying to use you, yeah, cut them off... but let me tell you something. One advantage of talking to fine women even if you aren't romantically linked to them is that other people see that, especially other women and they wonder who is this guy that stays talking to these pretty women? That pretty girl may not have to mess with you but if you can be cordial with her and she say positive things about your name, then you get benefits off of that. And just on a non self-beneficial level, sometimes it's cool to just get to know people. No woman owes me her body or her time so what I look like getting mad at her turning me down. She doesn't want to mess with me on that level? Cool, we can sit back and chop it every now and then, but don't be trying to play me and ask me all these favors, because that's a no-go. Queen benefits go to my queen, and 'friend benefits' go to friends.
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i don't buy into this. its not difficult at all for a woman to find a decent man to marry. in fact as a man you probably know several decent marriage material men.
lots of those sorts get passed on because they don't play the game. they don't keep things entetrtaining. they're boring and perdictable and at that phase in these women's life they'd rather be entertained than find a quality man.
there's an abundance of both decent man and women out there any given person just has to be able to judge character well enough to find them. regular decent guys are no more rare than decent women.
I have an abundance of female friends and they tell me all the time that all the good brothers have so many options because so many women covet them, that the likelihood of them settling down or picking them is minimum.
Of course, they can find a man who will marry them. But is he her choice or is he simply the best thing available?
It all goes back to the fact that women are confused. They want a intelligent, sophisticated thug. lol.
But you're right. If women lived by our principles they would find a good guy, as they are in abundance. They spend their 20s and early 30s chasing after fantasy men who will never wife them. And then when they got lots of mileage on them, they want to get with the nice calm guy, who will avoid them because nobody wants a hooptie, especially when you can afford something straight off the lot.. new model. lol
this is true, also as a woman gets older esp near 30 her value for marriage to a good decent guy drops tremendously.
The average woman marries at 26 in the states
"The key thing few women realize is that they are selling themselves in a lemons market where women are easily distinguished into two groups: women over 30 and women under 30. (They can and are subdivided much more than that, but old/young is a good starting point).
The key thing about this lemons market is that you can test drive the product a fair bit (dating, relationships).
Available women in their 20s have been test driven some, but there is still a lot of uncertainty about their performance. They could be crappy deals, but they could also be valuable deals who have not yet been taken off the market.
Women in their 30s have generally been test driven a fair amount, and in many cases have been bought (married), found out as a lemon, and sold (divorce). As it turns out, lemons are quite willing to announce themselves as lemons by divorcing, confident that they can camouflage themselves among the few quality women who divorce bad men. Few quality women divorce, so the ranks of 30s women are largely filled with lemons who selected themselves out of marriage, and lemons who were bad enough that they were never sold in the first place.
Because they can sense the wall coming, ALL of those women have incentives to portray themselves as quality women who were undiscovered by men, divorced themselves from bad men, or were naive women who have learned and become quality women, REGARDLESS OF THEIR TRUE NATURE AS LEMONS. The few legitimately quality women in their 30s are surrounded by lemons pretending to be quality women.
Now, look at the mans side. He can date among two groups:
20s women:
Have youth and beauty. 60% quality, 40% lemons. About 1/2 of the lemons will actively avoid being purchased, and when faced with marriage, will instead choose to continue bedhopping. Most quality women receive a decent marriage proposal and accept it. 80% of 20s women get married. Out of the 20% who dont, lets say it consists of 5% quality women, 15% lemons.
30s women:
Have experience and confidence. Of the never-marrieds, 25% quality, 75% lemons. Lets give them the benefit of the doubt, and say 20% of the lemons become quality women, leaving a 40%/60% breakdown. Of divorced women, 25% are quality, 75% are lemons. Assuming the number of never-marrieds is about the same as the number of divorcees, this leaves a total of about 33% quality women, 66% lemons. About 3/4 of the lemons will willingly marry when given the opportunity, saddling the man with her bad self (and probably a divorce and alimony down the way).
Lets sum it up. Assuming a completely ignorant man who cant test drive the women, if he randomly selects women and tries to marry them, he has a 69% chance of marrying a quality woman if he only dates women in their 20s. If he only dates women in their 30s, he has a 40% chance of marrying a quality woman.
His chances of marrying a lemon go from 31% to 60%they double! All from choosing to date women past a certain age.
Older women can talk until they are blue in the face about the qualities they have to offer. Men instinctively know their odds are better going with young women, so when an offer comes to seriously test-drive an older woman, men of quality will generally ignore that offer."
The key thing about this lemons market is that you can test drive the product a fair bit (dating, relationships).
Available women in their 20s have been test driven some, but there is still a lot of uncertainty about their performance. They could be crappy deals, but they could also be valuable deals who have not yet been taken off the market.
Women in their 30s have generally been test driven a fair amount, and in many cases have been bought (married), found out as a lemon, and sold (divorce). As it turns out, lemons are quite willing to announce themselves as lemons by divorcing, confident that they can camouflage themselves among the few quality women who divorce bad men. Few quality women divorce, so the ranks of 30s women are largely filled with lemons who selected themselves out of marriage, and lemons who were bad enough that they were never sold in the first place.
Because they can sense the wall coming, ALL of those women have incentives to portray themselves as quality women who were undiscovered by men, divorced themselves from bad men, or were naive women who have learned and become quality women, REGARDLESS OF THEIR TRUE NATURE AS LEMONS. The few legitimately quality women in their 30s are surrounded by lemons pretending to be quality women.
Now, look at the mans side. He can date among two groups:
20s women:
Have youth and beauty. 60% quality, 40% lemons. About 1/2 of the lemons will actively avoid being purchased, and when faced with marriage, will instead choose to continue bedhopping. Most quality women receive a decent marriage proposal and accept it. 80% of 20s women get married. Out of the 20% who dont, lets say it consists of 5% quality women, 15% lemons.
30s women:
Have experience and confidence. Of the never-marrieds, 25% quality, 75% lemons. Lets give them the benefit of the doubt, and say 20% of the lemons become quality women, leaving a 40%/60% breakdown. Of divorced women, 25% are quality, 75% are lemons. Assuming the number of never-marrieds is about the same as the number of divorcees, this leaves a total of about 33% quality women, 66% lemons. About 3/4 of the lemons will willingly marry when given the opportunity, saddling the man with her bad self (and probably a divorce and alimony down the way).
Lets sum it up. Assuming a completely ignorant man who cant test drive the women, if he randomly selects women and tries to marry them, he has a 69% chance of marrying a quality woman if he only dates women in their 20s. If he only dates women in their 30s, he has a 40% chance of marrying a quality woman.
His chances of marrying a lemon go from 31% to 60%they double! All from choosing to date women past a certain age.
Older women can talk until they are blue in the face about the qualities they have to offer. Men instinctively know their odds are better going with young women, so when an offer comes to seriously test-drive an older woman, men of quality will generally ignore that offer."
Pretty much.. These women get stuck on fantasy men, whether it be the neighborhood star thug who is knocking all the ladies down or some prince charming type character, aka baller star who will rescue her and give her a life of unending excitement. When all of these men have used and abused her she will turn brand new and seek that normal, stable guy she avoided, dragging her fatherless kids and her problems along. Some will even have the audacity to try and call that guy 'less than a man' because he refuses to deal with problems of her own making. That's the reality in a lot of these cases. If women want a 'quality man', they better get down early on, because you can't throw a cold shoulder when you're young and pretty and then expect a hot plate on the table for you when you fell off. If these young women had any sense, they would give up the fantasy chase and go for a decent man, but unfortunately they were reared by mothers giving them dumb advice... It's not' find a decent man to BUILD with', but rather "find a man with money" or "find a man that will take care of you." Then this indoctrination continues with all these tv shows and magazines they read until it's a wrap.
this is some real shyt
i been around many women that will overtly comment on how another man is fine or looks good. some tv ass nikka and i sat there and let it fly just cause i didn't wanna react and seem jealous.
i didn't even recognize it as a form of disrespect but it is.
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Well as a male, you aren't a prize by default. There are certain characteristics you have that MAKE you the prize. When you are confident, you look nice, smell nice, have great conversation, just know how to enjoy your life, have your program together, can lead, etc., you just have so many characteristics that intermingle that make you unbelievably attractive to a woman. I don't really like to use the term, 'you are a prize,' but prefer to use a more precise saying of, you are a man of high worth who knows you're value and won't accept a penny less. When you have these characteristics, especially strong leadership and realistic confidence, then you have a right to demand certain behavior from women. You're not a prize because you have a johnson swinging from between your legs. You're a prize because you know and live all that being a man encompasses and you live that.
My ex did that shiit to me all the damn time.
When we saw 21 jumpstreet, n errtime ice cube came on the screen it was always, "good lawd he is fine!" n commences to fanning herself.
Then during the flick, "New Years Eve". Same thang w Christopher Bridges.
"Um um ummm. Luda... You can be my boo dove!!" *eyes roll back*
And im sitting there like, "babe... wah wah, What about me?!"
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Got a girls number a couple of days ago, asked her to go for drinks later this week, this is what she sent me:
"As for drinks, I have to wait until my staffing situation at work is better because its difficult to take time off when my store needs me to work. I apologize, i don't mean to come off the wrong way."
Just delete her number and move on?
Brehs, i have got like 7 numbers the last week and all of them have flaked/rejected me. I am a pretty decent looking dude too....i don't get it. I feel like shyt right now.
"As for drinks, I have to wait until my staffing situation at work is better because its difficult to take time off when my store needs me to work. I apologize, i don't mean to come off the wrong way."
Just delete her number and move on?
Brehs, i have got like 7 numbers the last week and all of them have flaked/rejected me. I am a pretty decent looking dude too....i don't get it. I feel like shyt right now.
Got a girls number a couple of days ago, asked her to go for drinks later this week, this is what she sent me:
"As for drinks, I have to wait until my staffing situation at work is better because its difficult to take time off when my store needs me to work. I apologize, i don't mean to come off the wrong way."
Just delete her number and move on?
Brehs, i have got like 7 numbers the last week and all of them have flaked/rejected me. I am a pretty decent looking dude too....i don't get it. I feel like shyt right now.
Keep your head up breh. As for the chick with the staffing situation, I'd let that one ride for a lil while longer. If she makes another excuse, cut her off. Also monitor if she's showing interest via text message/calling/etc.
Stay positive though. If none of those 7 numbers you got end up working out, go grab 7 more.
I'm gonna tell it to you like I heard it. If you were with the publisher's clearing house prize patrol and you knocked on 7 doors with that big check and these women didn't open the door to accept the prize how would you feel about them? that's how you should feel about women that flake.Brehs, i have got like 7 numbers the last week and all of them have flaked/rejected me. I am a pretty decent looking dude too....i don't get it. I feel like shyt right now.
you feeling bad because they flake is not the business. They shouldn't be able to touch your confidence that you're a quality man out here. They missed out on the opportunity to chop it up with you and get to know a good dude. Their bad. In fact they did you a favor because you don't wanna waste your time with women that flake anyway.
your paradigm still sounds like women are valued more than you are in your mind.
I've had chicks do this shyt to me in the past and they think its funny
Mayne this shyt is too real. though. The first things come out these females when you say its disrespectful is that you're insecure smh
Women gradually do little things to undermine you and disrespect you. They ease you into it and then one day you notice the blatant nature of their disrespectful behavior. If you don't address it the instant it first happens its a slippery slope from there.
