WOMEN ARE NOT SPECIAL. I want anyone reading this thread to internalize that. WOMEN ARE NOT SPECIAL. This is not a chauvinist/sexist statement. Women are no more and no less imporant than Men are, we are not smarter or superior to them, but THEY ARE NOT ABOVE US. Don't ever grovel or beg for a woman's favor. It's extremely hard to actually internalize INDIFFERENCE that we have been been talking about in this thread. We are males, Human males are hunters and it is our nature to lust after the females. Thats the way of the world, I love women and sex just as much as any other man. But just as we have been talking about all throughout this thread, you are doomed for failure if women are your number one priority. The first sep in becoming truly INDIFFERENT starts with the statement WOMEN ARE NOT SPECIAL. Love them, cherish them, treat them with courtesy and respect (as you should everyone) but don't think the fact that they have a vagina makes them some kind of special entity. They are human beings that happen to be female, that simple fact seems to elude so many males today that put them on pedestals. One of the big reasons indifference is so valuable is it allows you to understand THE GAME without harboring resentment. Many women take advantage of their attractiveness to manipulate men, this is true, but that is not a condemnation of women. The world we live in is all abou survival of the fittest, if any of us were females we would be doing the exact same thing. Understand the game, understand the power balance, hate it if you want but never hate THEM. There are bad women, just as there are bad men, human beings are capable of heartless actions. Achieve this INDIFFERENCE but never let it turn to resentment, I promise that once you get to that point the way you interact with women will never be the same