Essential Quick Lil Gems on Dealing with Women

[Scustin Trillberlake]

So i am messaging two girls right now on OKCupid but i am having a hard time closing the number? Suggestions?


I was thinking something along the lines of: "I don't really check my messages that much, is it cool if i get your number so i can text you?


Or should i just ask them out for drinks?


Online dating isn't any easier than real life

 

[Rominati]

Stop being a lil bytch and jus ask her for her number bro

Girls aint slow, she know ya two aint jus talking to pass time. Step up and get on it.

She already has it set in her mind by now if you and her are gonna take things further.

 

[kevm3]

Know you are the prize because you really ARE the prize
Women simply 'choose up' in men and as a man, you really have to have so much together, so realistically you are the prize. When is the last time a woman just came with the intentions of making you laugh and keeping you entertained? How about a woman that just took you out all the time and paid without any intentions of using that as a chain to keep you in her grasp? How often have you been able to tell a woman your problems and her actually comforting you and offering a solution without her thinking you're a punk? When's the last time a woman protected you when you went out and about? When's the last time a woman had a plan not only to better herself, but significantly better you? The last time a woman paid the majority of the bills so that you had more money to spend on yourself? Who is going to assume most of the financial risk if the relationship goes bad? That's right, you, the man. And for all of that, you need to go use 3 months salary and reward her with a ring. That's like going to the used car salesman and giving him your car for free and he tells you to go to the grocery store and go bring his favorite oatmeal cookies while you're at it.

As a man, you are expected to bring all these different things to the table, but what is the woman really bringing to the table? Looking pretty, some decent conversation and sexual favors if you are not living a religious lifestyle? These are things you are also expected to bring? Back in the day at least you would have someone that would cook and clean for you and take off your coat when you get home. Now, women look at that as offensive unless she just likes you so much she will buck that rationale. If you got married, at least you got a virgin. Now women got crazy amounts of sexual experience coming in the door, so what you're planning to do, the next man as already done.

So really, when we really think about it, who is getting the better end of the deal here? And yet some men are still brainwashed to believe they need to be out here trying to 'impress' a woman to get her attention. You know what modern females use to GAME you and to uphold this huge value disparity? Shaming tactics or choice. You point the real out and you are bitter, mad or a host of other things when that's the furthest thing for the truth. Or they simply don't mess with you and due to men having no control over themselves, they still come with this mindset that they are of lesser value. If you are bringing all of this value to the table, why aren't YOU demanding more from these women? This is why you really are the prize and need to act accordingly. Stop being psychologically manipulated to getting less than what you're worth. You have the choice to not mess with a woman who doesn't live up to your standards just as they have been cutting you for not living up to her standards.

 

[the cool]

i went out tonight and before i was thinking about asking for a girls number i thought of this thread. someone on here said don't ask them for their number, give them yours instead so you can avoid the bullshyt.

tonight after chopping it up with a girl.....i said "you want to go out sometime?" well here's my number and she was interested. she told me to write it on a piece of paper, and write it clearly with my name on it. no more anxieties on when to call her (wait how many days bullshyt) should i text or call first bullshyt.

thanks brehs.

 

[Peter Pawger]

sooner or later she'll build up imunity to the chloroform. Be careful

 

[kevm3]

Commitment is to be rewarded
Now that you do realize you are the prize, you need to also realize that your commitment to a woman should be REWARDED, not given away. A lot of you fellas are rushing into relationships because you simply feel you must wrap up this woman by any means necessary. Some of you simply cannot be alone, and that is something you have to work on. These type of men are little different than the woman who jumps into relationship after relationship because she cannot do without a man.

Having this sort of desperation means that you are willingly lowering the value of what you have to offer. A lot of times a man looks at a woman's looks and puts this exorbitant value on it. If that girl had the exact same characteristics as she has now, but was 150 lbs heavier, would you deal with half the things you put up with? No you wouldn't. If you have even a minute ability to use foresight, she very well may gain 50 lbs after you wrap her up and she becomes comfortable with you and feels like she 'has you'. A lot of men put way too high of a premium on something as temporal as looks.

Now what REALLY should be sought and rewarded in women are TRAITS. Is she consistent? Do you actually enjoy her personality? Is she fair? Loyal? After knowing you bring all of this value to the table, this is why you DO NOT trip over a woman flaking on you, lying to you or any of that nonsense. You simply cut her from your life and move on. She is not bringing enough value to the table for you to be concerned over her.

On the subject of value. There are two components to value that are intertwined. There is intrinsic value and perceived value. Intrinsic value is the tangible value or usefulness of something. Your intrinsic value is whether or not your product is actually quality and whether or not it will hold up under duress. Your perceived value is the 'marketing' around your product. It is how you market yourself to actually get proper compensation for what you are offering. A lot of men bring a lot of intrinsic value to the table, but their perceived value is low because they simply do not know how to represent what they are offering and offer it for too low of a price.

Think about this. You may be able to get a nice pair of dress shoes for $40, and it's made of fairly sturdy material... On the other hand, if you want a pair of Jordans, expect to pay at LEAST $100. Jordans have little added useful value than a pair of dress shoes, as they both simply cover your feet and get you from point a to point b, but they sell for much more simply due to the marketing around Jordans. Although there is little inherent value in Jordans, the perceived value in Jordans is great... And they raise it even higher utilizing principles such as scarcity, aka we're offering these for a limited time only.

A lot of men realize they bring a lot to the table, but their problem is in perception or communicating the value of what they are offering and actually going through and ensuring that they are getting fair value. They are so easily talked down and hustled out of their real value. Why? Ignorance and desperation. They MUST be with a woman or they just can't live... Desperation will breed several problems. Ignorance in they simply do not realize this principle and continually offer themselves for much less than they are worth. if you had a pair of expensive Jordans in your closet, but you didn't know what they were, yet I also knew that you didn't know what they were worth, I would be able to talk you into parting them for much less than you would have charged me if you knew what you actually had. I would have been able to GAME you. You got hustled. This is what is happening in this day and age. A lot of men are simply getting hustled because they do not know the worth of what they are bringing to the table, they don't know how to market themselves well or they do not have the guts to actually demand proper compensation.

 

[Virtuous_Brotha]

Online dating isn't any easier than real life

 

[Captain Crunch]

i went out tonight and before i was thinking about asking for a girls number i thought of this thread. someone on here said don't ask them for their number, give them yours instead so you can avoid the bullshyt.

tonight after chopping it up with a girl.....i said "you want to go out sometime?" well here's my number and she was interested. she told me to write it on a piece of paper, and write it clearly with my name on it. no more anxieties on when to call her (wait how many days bullshyt) should i text or call first bullshyt.

thanks brehs.

Good job dave man

 

[Not By Bread Alone]

in essence dogs offer unconditional love

women nope

Unconditional love? For the most part all love is conditional and to say otherwise is just being idealistic. Love is just an emotion like say anger there's nothing special about it.

To the people that believe in unconditional love if you raped and killed her mother would she still love you? We are human beings we have and maintain love and relationships because they're beneficial to us and because we approve of the person. As long as they stay within a certain boundary the love is there.

Unconditional Love is becoming a myth. The only ones at the end of the day who will truly love you for you is God and your parents (if your blessed with loving and caring parents).A woman can say she will love you if your broke,homeless etc....but all that is talk and when things get rough she realizes she has options and she will jet out of there quick.Does uncondtional love exists..... yes it does but its a slim %...THESE DAYS.

appreciate the input brehs

unconditional love is an ideal, where you don't need to receive anything back in response in order to love. it's idealistic for sure. but if someone is in a period of emotional and personal weakness in their life, why should you stop loving them?

isn't forgiveness a part of love? and yeah love is an emotion, but it's the highest of all emotions.

of course there are exceptions to everything (raping and killing someone's mother), just as if you ask a vegetarian if they're on a desert island would they kill and eat an animal; it doesn't stop them from being a true vegetarian.



from reading this thread there's a lot of good knowledge in here no doubt. though it does seem like a lot of the comments are internalised pain from negative past relationships. many comments simply come across as fear; fear of not being hurt like before again. by going "all in" with a woman who in the end was not the right one. this should not stop you from loving to the fullest if you do find the right woman.

 

[MikelArteta]

appreciate the input brehs

unconditional love is an ideal, where you don't need to receive anything back in response in order to love. it's idealistic for sure. but if someone is in a period of emotional and personal weakness in their life, why should you stop loving them?

isn't forgiveness a part of love? and yeah love is an emotion, but it's the highest of all emotions.

of course there are exceptions to everything (raping and killing someone's mother), just as if you ask a vegetarian if they're on a desert island would they kill and eat an animal; it doesn't stop them from being a true vegetarian.



from reading this thread there's a lot of good knowledge in here no doubt. though it does seem like a lot of the comments are internalised pain from negative past relationships. many comments simply come across as fear; fear of not being hurt like before again. by going "all in" with a woman who in the end was not the right one. this should not stop you from loving to the fullest if you do find the right woman.

What reward is there for a man to give his full heart to a woman?

Men love hard and after a few times of being crushed you adapt to your surroundings, if I'm bit by a few dogs of course I know not every dog out there will bite me, but I'm more aware when I am around and dealing with dogs.

It's ludicrous to think that any man who has been played by a female will continue to just jump into the game over and over again with open arms.




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[Rocket Scientist]

isn't this a condition breh

of course it is

 

[Sharp]

appreciate the input brehs

unconditional love is an ideal, where you don't need to receive anything back in response in order to love. it's idealistic for sure. but if someone is in a period of emotional and personal weakness in their life, why should you stop loving them?

isn't forgiveness a part of love? and yeah love is an emotion, but it's the highest of all emotions.

of course there are exceptions to everything (raping and killing someone's mother), just as if you ask a vegetarian if they're on a desert island would they kill and eat an animal; it doesn't stop them from being a true vegetarian.



from reading this thread there's a lot of good knowledge in here no doubt. though it does seem like a lot of the comments are internalised pain from negative past relationships. many comments simply come across as fear; fear of not being hurt like before again. by going "all in" with a woman who in the end was not the right one. this should not stop you from loving to the fullest if you do find the right woman.

Somebody mentioned this earlier in this thread. All of the horror stories seem to be same script, just different actors. The hand grenade analogy pretty much sums it up.

You can't be naive when dealing with these women. You have to understand the basic concepts scattered throughout this thread.

At the end of the day, the goal is to only be surrounded by women that are a good fit for you, and the things said here facilitate in weeding the bad ones out.

Some things are facts such as women are sweeter than sugar when they are head over heels for you, but frostier than ice when the feelings are gone.

Women take advantage of nice guys and will eventually discard them.

We're basically installing the belief that women should be the ones going hard to be in a relationship with you, not the other way around.

 

[kevm3]

Yep, it's the same thing over and over. You go in here with your eyes towards the stars and you'll fall right into a ditch. You're free to love her as a human being as much as you want and that's to be commended, but to walk in and to love a woman romantically without verifying who she is and what she's really about is crazy. You WILL get your butt whipped in this game. The thing is, I forgive all my exes for the wrongs they did to me, but I'm not stupid enough to discard the lessons learned from such encounters.

The whole premise behind you getting decent behavior out of a woman in this day and age is a woman LIKING you and even that doesn't guarantee loyalty... How turbulent are a woman's emotions! Who can predict where they will go from day to day? What we are essentially advising you to do is to put yourself in an ADVANTAGEOUS position to where if a woman stops 'feeling you', then you won't be devastated mentally, emotionally, physically or financially.

Let's be real... would you give your money to a banker if your ability to access that money was contingent on how much your banker still liked you? That's something that's beyond your control and extremely volatile. And let's be real, once a woman stops liking you, its done. Over. She couldn't care less about what happens to you. In fact, she may even attempt to kick you over the bridge. Ask some guys whose wife divorced them how mean and vindictive an ex-wife can be, even if you've done nothing particularly wrong. The thing is, it's not just about how the woman feels that should concern you. It's the SYSTEM that you're in. If she leaves you on the wrong terms, the very next decade or two of your life can be terrible. You're doling out payments to her which she is lavishing on the next man.

 

[MikelArteta]

Somebody mentioned this earlier in this thread. All of the horror stories seem to be same script, just different actors. The hand grenade analogy pretty much sums it up.

You can't be naive when dealing with these women. You have to understand the basic concepts scattered throughout this thread.

At the end of the day, the goal is to only be surrounded by women that are a good fit for you, and the things said here facilitate in weeding the bad ones out.

Some things are facts such as women are sweeter than sugar when they are head over heels for you, but frostier than ice when the feelings are gone.

Women take advantage of nice guys and will eventually discard them.

We're basically installing the belief that women should be the ones going hard to be in a relationship with you, not the other way around.

yep like i tell folks, i remember after a few heartbreaks and going to relationship forums and reading i was like damn this is my story right here, was my chick cloned?


"virtuous woman who can find? for her price is far above rubies" - the good book

 

[MikelArteta]

Yep, it's the same thing over and over. You go in here with your eyes towards the stars and you'll fall right into a ditch. You're free to love her as a human being as much as you want and that's to be commended, but to walk in and to love a woman romantically without verifying who she is and what she's really about is crazy. You WILL get your butt whipped in this game. The thing is, I forgive all my exes for the wrongs they did to me, but I'm not stupid enough to discard the lessons learned from such encounters.

The whole premise behind you getting decent behavior out of a woman in this day and age is a woman LIKING you and even that doesn't guarantee loyalty... How turbulent are a woman's emotions! Who can predict where they will go from day to day? What we are essentially advising you to do is to put yourself in an ADVANTAGEOUS position to where if a woman stops 'feeling you', then you won't be devastated mentally, emotionally, physically or financially.

Let's be real... would you give your money to a banker if your ability to access that money was contingent on how much your banker still liked you? That's something that's beyond your control and extremely volatile. And let's be real, once a woman stops liking you, its done. Over. She couldn't care less about what happens to you. In fact, she may even attempt to kick you over the bridge. Ask some guys whose wife divorced them how mean and vindictive an ex-wife can be, even if you've done nothing particularly wrong. The thing is, it's not just about how the woman feels that should concern you. It's the SYSTEM that you're in. If she leaves you on the wrong terms, the very next decade or two of your life can be terrible. You're doling out payments to her which she is lavishing on the next man.

yup as soon as something better comes along she becomes colder than dry ice, yesterday you were man today you don't exist