Essential Quick Lil Gems on Dealing with Women
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Grabbed my girls phone to see how she would react...she snatched that bytch up with the quickness
you dont go thru a phone thats not yours
Zapp Brannigan
Captain of the Nimbus
i swear i was having this exact convo with my cuz yesterday...it's like we don't even really need to get married. it's almost like we give in out of compassion cause we want to do right by her after all the time we made her wait. or because of "everything she's been through, she deserves to be happy." Cause we want her to feel secured and safe. but the more i think about it, the less i would want my girl to feel secured. Cause the only way to make sure she remains exceptional with me is for a slight doubt to constantly be there. Once you take out all her doubt and insecurity, what the fukk does she need you for anymore?.
What's messing with me right now is that all this makes sense to me logically. seems simple enough. but my instinct still makes me want to protect her physically and emotionally. The fact i want to protect her emotionally and make her feel safe means i just can't win. Our compassion towards them is our downfall but it seems like that's how we're wired. it's a dirty game...
Could have used this when I was a teen...
Zapp Brannigan
Captain of the Nimbus
it's almost like the only way to win is to become a "sociopath" just like them...
That's kinda the idea behind PUA (although I don't necessarily cosign with all that they do/think/say). It's also why women hate the idea of pickup artists - they lose that emotional leverage that they normally have.
My ex gf called me after 5-6 months of not hearing from her.She blocked her # and then had nerve to text meon some "Hey C Holla". I sat there puzzled on why she would call and text.Then I realied she is a huge Tyler Perry fan and more then likely saw the movie that came out. It must be something in this movie...... I tell u brothas. Women always have a motive.There is a reason they call,text especially after long periods of time, maybe guilty conscious who knows
very strong thing
i understand what you're saying but when i say be a "sociopath", i don't even mean like be a player. i believe in honesty. but what i meant is that it almost seems like you have to not care about what they want or what they could regret in the future. cause even with a "good girl" (matter of fact, ESPECIALLY with them...) that compassion you have could fukk you up. they simply aren't wired like us.good point. Im thinking about it, and thats a really good observation. but to compare the two, its not really the same thing. first of all, we cant turn into our enemies. second of all, we really arent like them in the first place. we cant fairly compare, or turn into one another for many reasons.
to start out, the differences speak for themselves. we have to put up with, and put on, a whole lot more to get with women. they basically get to enjoy a host of offerings and efforts from us, just so they can take us seriously. and in that process of us seeking to get ours, we're doing a lot to please women. so its not one sided in that case, even if we were considered, "being selfish."
we're doing the courting. shes laying back and either accepting your game or not. we have to meet her, start conversations with her, stand out from the pack, invite her out ... and she enjoys you being the host, showing her a good time, your personality, the free food, the ride, supplying the drinks or whatever, etc etc.
typically, she gets more out of it, and puts in less. she only needs to cooperate to make things work. and ultimately its really all for companionship, affection, and sex. something that SHE wants as well. so really they start off with more bargaining power and leverage. the scales arent even. also you can look at the legal benefits a woman gets when she faces off against a man in court. there is no true 50/50 balance. its just a fact.
I only say that to say, things are not the same on either end. we are not them, so changing our rules to be more like them, seems to defeat the whole purpose of you possibly getting what youve REALLY been looking for.
so look, in my opinion, there cant be a clear winner if we try to do what some of them do. if we are all motivated by selfish and decietful reasons, then its only coming down to two people using one another and not being real about it.
so when you say that men can only win by turning into sociopaths, its more like, we only need to turn cold and stop caring about the wrong types of women. the ones who dont match up, and wont try to hold you down. I wouldnt suggest to turn into a sociopath just so you can avoid the responsibilities of a man and woman relationship. you just need the fair amount put back in from her, otherwise its not worth your time.
the ones to avoid would be those kinds of women always expecting shyt from you, the strongly vocal and independant "what have you done for me lately" types. the non-cooperating types. those who like to do nothing in return, they are the ones using men in a shameless manner. thats a true sociopath right there. and you only have to turn into a sociopath for THAT type.
and altogether, if you look at it, it isnt a problem that you want to seek out your own needs. theres nothing wrong with that as long as there is a reciprocation on both sides. you have needs that must be met, and so does she. however, if there are no attempts to meet each others standards, then it is and will be a problem. that leads to resentment and hate. so there has to be an understanding and effort from everyone. turning into a sociopath could only end ugly.
i don't think there are good girls, just like i don't think there are bad/wrong girls. they will just be what you allow them to be. if you get fukked over by the last girl who was once a good girl (but you eventually allowed her to be a bad girl) then when you meet the next good girl, you'll be more guarded and cold. what happens though is that the new girl you pick will probably be even more innocent and seem more nice and genuine than the last one. even worse if she has a sob story. the problem is now, you learned from last time so you will put her through a lot. she seems unhappy and insecure because of it. suddenly that compassion that's wired in you kicks in. you feel "this chick really is ride or die for me...she deserves more of me. she deserves to be more happy. she shouldn't have to pay for the last chick that fukked me over, she's a different person." that's when you're fukked. because she will turn if you change on her.
that's why i said you almost gotta be a sociopath. You could meet the perfect girl for you who truly cares about you, ride or die, sweet as fukk, never did anything wrong to you, always had your back when she didn't have to, showed you loyalty, cooperating, easy-going, etc etc etc....once that protective instinct kicks in and once you start feeling bad for her, you're prey. she sees an opening and you're done. but it's just how we are. we can't help it. nature wired us that way for the survival of the race. if we didn't have that compassion, we'd just play them, fukk em, and not give a fukk about their physical or emotional protection. it's almost like we all have an inner fight in us, both males and females. except their inner fight is in reverse from us. We are wired to be compassionate but we have to force ourselves to be cold to attract them. they are wired to be cold but have to force themselves to be sweet and nice in order to attract us. trust me man, it's the nice ones that could fukk you up the most because it'll be easier for them to soften your heart. and it's not on purpose. they're not evil. it's just nature. if they weren't like that, the human race would be in trouble as well. you have to truly not give a fukk that she seems like an exception. Once you start thinking "she doesn't belong to the game cause she's nice" you're already prey. cause we're all in the game. don't expect her to feel like you don't belong to the game when (not if but when...) the shoe is on the other foot.
the ones that are consciously scheming are easy to spot. it's the ones that aren't even consciously playing the game that will burn your soul the most. fukk what she feels, fukk what she wants, fukk if she never did anything wrong to you. Never think a chick is doing you a favor because she didn't hurt you. Whenever you're with a chick, you have to constantly feel like you're the best thing that ever happened to her and that she's lucky to even have you in her life. Never make her feel like you're lucky to have her. fight the urge to constantly make her feel safe. she should ALWAYS be a little insecure. you should foster that feeling in her (not too much but enough). and you should do it because it's in your best interest. your principals above her life. it sounds fukked up. it sounds evil. it even feels counter-intuitive. but i sincerely think that everytime you will feel compassionate to her you will lose a little (and that feeling is inevitable because it's in our nature.) that's what i meant by sociopath.
and in a relationship, it's inevitable that you will lose sometimes. but you always have to fight the feeling.
i feel you man, that's a little bit what i meant.
Emperor Sol
Knowledge and Wisdom
I just wanted to drop by and say I really appreciate this thread. Although I don't post on this thread all that often, I do read it somewhat regularly and like seeing the things that I see.
What I like most about the advice here is that dudes here are very real. You don't see that kind of thing on other forums or message boards. With the way some of y'all are typing out replies, I'm surprised none of you are getting "tl;dr" from posters like you would on other boards. That's what I like to see.
Not to mention the fact that the advice here isn't just good for dealing with women. It's great life advice too. It shows an insurmountable level of maturity to prioritize yourself over things that can easily become trivial, like the pursuit of women.
Anyway, enough of my rambling. Just wanted to take a moment to appreciate the finer things in life and give my piece on why the coli is one of the GOAT forums.
Carry on
What I like most about the advice here is that dudes here are very real. You don't see that kind of thing on other forums or message boards. With the way some of y'all are typing out replies, I'm surprised none of you are getting "tl;dr" from posters like you would on other boards. That's what I like to see.
Not to mention the fact that the advice here isn't just good for dealing with women. It's great life advice too. It shows an insurmountable level of maturity to prioritize yourself over things that can easily become trivial, like the pursuit of women.
Anyway, enough of my rambling. Just wanted to take a moment to appreciate the finer things in life and give my piece on why the coli is one of the GOAT forums.
Carry on
Illuminatos
#OVOXO
What do you guys think about pick up artists?
i'm speaking on if you are trying to wife a girl standpoint, not just for fukking, if you want to get a quick fukk then do some pua shyt I guess
It's just guys who make getting girls a sport/hobby. For me they put way too much in trying to understand girls, too much effort. Basically if you are tricking a girl into liking you it's not real to me, it's fabricated
Just go holla @ a girl you're feeling her by introducing yourself, after you get the number then don't appear too thirsty or too disinterested and you should be on the right path if she is feeling you and you're feeling her
i think its lame but eh if thats what they want to do, your basically playing a role to get girls, not happy with yourself, all this day game/night game ish is eh.
Emperor Sol
Knowledge and Wisdom
PuaHate.com - The Forefront Of The Anti-Pickup-Artist Movement
The website is mostly fakkits (I'm not kidding, they worship male models over there) but they expose the PUA frauds out there pretty nicely
You'll find better advice on the coli than you will from these PUA weirdos. They've over-conceptualized something so simple that it just reeks of fakkitry. Getting women shouldn't be so complicated that you need to use jargon to explain the process.
Mister_DoItNice
Leading The Regime
I think the whole PUA movement is a bit lame. The general consensus is that you shouldn't make women your only goal/endgame. Well if your hobby is chasing/seducing women you're essentially just putting them on a pedestal as something you covet. I think PUA never really had success in garnering the attention of women so they resort to what they call "game". If it works for them then cool but when I read these blogs and they preach about game I just breeze past those excerpts.