Lawd. Between life, I've been too busy with soaking up the gems in the earlier parts of the thread to focus on the latest. Still reading it all.
Two points to make:
The realm of the PUA is a response (and perhaps, in this spiraling world, a natural conclusion) to the garish monsters that modern women have devolved into. What it does is indoctrinate men starved of/scolded by female attention or a lack thereof, and teaches them to put on a charade. A charade that the newly-hatched female monster will unknowingly accept.
What the initiate, who's often lured-in by the promise of winning big in the Love & ***** Lottery, fails to comprehend is that attracting the shallow, vapid female who falls for Game yields even worse results.
You can game a female who has hundreds of orbiters. Get the number, smash her, and try to keep her. But ultimately, the very fact that she fell for Game means that another man's game will also be able to draw her away with just as much ease.
The second Game drawback (I speak from experience) is the inevitable loss of respect for the woman's -- and perhaps all women's -- basic intelligence.
Trust me, the moment you realise that the offish, hard-to-get woman you always wanted suddenly starts blowing up your phone and wanting to see you, all because of few Game tricks that some other men who don't even know her, taught you, all the thoughts of her being pretty, smart, prudent, and logical will disappear immediately.
You'll realise that differing degrees of PUA works on the majority of women, regardless of personality, upbringing, and academic level. And you'll think to yourself: "Why can't she see through this stupid ****? Why can't I just be good and true to her? Why do lies and deceit attract her?"
The truth is you're changing and putting yourself under unnecessary duress to appease her undesireable nature. In effect, conforming to her needs and requirements of an ideal, while suppressing yours.
It is empty, brothers. Take this from a man who had natural PUA prerequisites, and who was smashing many, many broads. It encourages sociopathic tendencies and leads to a mountain of depravity, nothingness, and a never-ending quest for the next slut fix. You will feel like you're banging animals. Personal experience, brehs.
Those who boast about repeated and frequent sexual exploits usually fall into two categories: the sociopath and the scraper. The former is on a power trip, needing to devour and destroy as much flesh in its path as possible. It is insatiable and will feed until it dies.
And the second is lackey of the sociopath, usually an inexperienced male. He is in love/intoxicated with the sociopath's lack of fear and fret of defeat, and is enamoured by his master's need to conquer. He just isn't ruthless and empty enough to fully accomplish it. ie: he actually does have a heart.
Sociopaths generally have little-to-no emotion and no allegiances (encouraged in PUA). These are the true PUA. Women follow them, because the modern woman has herself become sociopathic and/or emotionally broken. And some female-starved men follow them due to this, or having had the empathetic, caring side chewed up and spat out of him by a woman.
Let me list some of the traits of a sociopath. See how many the modern broken woman share and PUA's encourage you to either have, or accept in a woman:
1. GLIB and SUPERFICIAL CHARM -- the tendency to be smooth, engaging, charming, slick, and verbally facile. Sociopathic charm is not in the least shy, self-conscious, or afraid to say anything. A sociopath never gets tongue-tied. They have freed themselves from the social conventions about taking turns in talking, for example.
2. GRANDIOSE SELF-WORTH -- a grossly inflated view of one's abilities and self-worth, self-assured, opinionated, cocky, a braggart. Sociopaths are arrogant people who believe they are superior human beings. (if you put a woman on your level, she will often disregard)
3. NEED FOR STIMULATION or PRONENESS TO BOREDOM -- an excessive need for novel, thrilling, and exciting stimulation; taking chances and doing things that are risky. Sociopaths often have low self-discipline in carrying tasks through to completion because they get bored easily. They fail to work at the same job for any length of time, for example, or to finish tasks that they consider dull or routine.
4. PATHOLOGICAL LYING -- can be moderate or high; in moderate form, they will be shrewd, crafty, cunning, sly, and clever; in extreme form, they will be deceptive, deceitful, underhanded, unscrupulous, manipulative, and dishonest.
5. CONNING AND MANIPULATIVENESS- the use of deceit and deception to cheat, con, or defraud others for personal gain; distinguished from Item#4 in the degree to which exploitation and callous ruthlessness is present, as reflected in a lack of concern for the feelings and suffering of one's victims.
6. LACK OF REMORSE OR GUILT -- a lack of feelings or concern for the losses, pain, and suffering of victims; a tendency to be unconcerned, dispassionate, coldhearted, and un empathic. This item is usually demonstrated by a disdain for one's victims. (simps in love, be warned)
7. SHALLOW AFFECT -- emotional poverty or a limited range or depth of feelings; interpersonal coldness in spite of signs of open gregariousness.
8. CALLOUSNESS and LACK OF EMPATHY -- a lack of feelings toward people in general; cold, contemptuous, inconsiderate, and tactless.
9. PARASITIC LIFESTYLE -- an intentional, manipulative, selfish, and exploitative financial dependence on others as reflected in a lack of motivation, low self-discipline, and inability to begin or complete responsibilities.
10. POOR BEHAVIORAL CONTROLS -- expressions of irritability, annoyance, impatience, threats, aggression, and verbal abuse; inadequate control of anger and temper; acting hastily.
11. PROMISCUOUS SEXUAL BEHAVIOR -- a variety of brief, superficial relations, numerous affairs, and an indiscriminate selection of sexual partners; the maintenance of several relationships at the same time; a history of attempts to sexually coerce others into sexual activity or taking great pride at discussing sexual exploits or conquests. (orbiters, large amount of male friends)
12. EARLY BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS -- a variety of behaviors prior to age 13, including lying, theft, cheating, vandalism, bullying, sexual activity, fire-setting, glue-sniffing, alcohol use, and running away from home.
13. LACK OF REALISTIC, LONG-TERM GOALS -- an inability or persistent failure to develop and execute long-term plans and goals; a nomadic existence, aimless, lacking direction in life.
14. IMPULSIVITY -- the occurrence of behaviors that are unpremeditated and lack reflection or planning; inability to resist temptation, frustrations, and urges; a lack of deliberation without considering the consequences; foolhardy, rash, unpredictable, erratic, and reckless.
15. IRRESPONSIBILITY -- repeated failure to fulfill or honor obligations and commitments; such as not paying bills, defaulting on loans, performing sloppy work, being absent or late to work, failing to honor contractual agreements. (flaking, man-hopping, etc.)
16. FAILURE TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR OWN ACTIONS -- a failure to accept responsibility for one's actions reflected in low conscientiousness, an absence of dutifulness, antagonistic manipulation, denial of responsibility, and an effort to manipulate others through this denial. (female accountability)
17. MANY SHORT-TERM MARITAL RELATIONSHIPS -- a lack of commitment to a long-term relationship reflected in inconsistent, undependable, and unreliable commitments in life, including marital.
18. JUVENILE DELINQUENCY -- behavior problems between the ages of 13-18; mostly behaviors that are crimes or clearly involve aspects of antagonism, exploitation, aggression, manipulation, or a callous, ruthless tough-mindedness.
19. REVOCATION OF CONDITION RELEASE -- a revocation of probation or other conditional release due to technical violations, such as carelessness, low deliberation, or failing to appear.
20. CRIMINAL VERSATILITY -- a diversity of types of criminal offenses, regardless if the person has been arrested or convicted for them; taking great pride at getting away with crimes. (no remorse or conscience)