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When it comes down to it, all we have are two choices. We can sit back and be ourselves, the best version of ourselves possible, or we can try to be someone else. People who try to be someone else in order to capture a female show a serious lack of confidence because they view themselves as not worthy of a woman and therefore, they have to start pretending to be what they imagine that woman likes. But really, what is so special about any woman that you have to view yourself on a lesser level and you have to actually put on a whole false persona in order to capture her? What is she bringing to the table that is so special? Let's be real here... the only thing that intimidates most men is that a woman looks good. That's it... but what is so impressive about that when you see all these good looking women dealing with grandpa Hugh Hefner because he has money? Or you see these good looking women going back stage and doing any and everything with some rapper or rnb star? You might see a fine woman pass by but if I told you she was a prostitute and just let 5 guys go at her back to back, all of a sudden you are no longer impressed or intimidated by her. So as you can see, it's all a mind game. We, as men, place looks upon this high pedestal and give beautiful women unjustified influence on how we view ourselves. Looks are lovely, but how many 50 year old women do you just go crazy over? So looks fade. Once you get over the looks bug and this 'win-lose' paradigm with women and go more on that Edison paradigm, things become much more fun.

looks are really 90% of a womans game. that is step one in how they gain the upper hand on men to convince us that we need to bow down to the ones we are attracted to. its set up so you look at yourself as the suitor, and you treat her like she is the prize. the fukked up part about that is when you lose that game by falling into her looks, and going around doing what you can to please her, she wins this game and thus loses interest in you. it becomes a hoing game, where the man is her ho. a time ho, a money ho, an emotional ho, a favor ho, or whatever. those looks are her muscle, and you bowing to that little game is the instrument that they use to put that work in.

that little mind game they play is sick, but its always just a test to see how much shyt they can get away with. some have that constant testing mentality, "that if I can punk him then what is another man going to do to him?" thought process. they want to see how strong you are and how much you can really stand on your own feet. problem is, that shes either doing it so A) so she can see if youre feeble in the mind and can bend to her will, B) she doesnt know any other way of reading a good, capable man, C) it shows that she really doesnt stand by you and wants you to carry all of the weight, and D) she loves the drama/attention the fighting brings. she cries about it to her circle, she makes herself more interesting with the conflicts she can tell about to her friends, or its whatever. sheeit, if a bored chick can turn your life into a soap opera, then she will.
:wow:

so you can never put ANY woman, good looks or not, above you. no thirst. because thirst is a weapon against you. its a game you wont win in. you cant surrender your sack and let them decide whos calling the shots. cant let them decide if you look right, and you cant let them tell you if have enough monetary wealth to impress them. thats all just gimmicks and shiny objects that they will use against you. and thats all out of order for a true man. while its a part of their feminine game to recieve from you, it is not supposed to be abused by them. these spoiled girls take that niceness, and run with it.

when you think about it, their smaller frames and attractive looks is really all it takes to fool and sucker in a man. it makes him turn from lion to a cub. they may look harmless, but thats part of the trap. you go and let her ego run wild and watch how hard and mean they can be. we talk shyt like #hardonhoes but really, women been #hardonsimps and #hardonsuckers forever. and its all because these kinds of women cant appreciate substance. they chase money over everything else. first of all, they should have their own lives and decisions in order and not count on someone else to save them from their stupid shyt. second of all, if they didnt fall for the okie doke from players, they would be able to see a good man. and chances are they would not get themselves caught up in some real life mess. nobodys perfect, but you can exclude a lot of nonsense by choosing right from the jump and stop chasing a mans power and find your own. damn, men wouldnt be playing the material wealth and resources game on women if they didnt run after that.

the more we let them get away with being tricked on, using other men, us catering to them but not ourselves in a fair manner, and letting them get a blown up ego due to strictly their looks, then the worse men and women relationships become. it now a big part of todays culture to blow money on a random chick, or for women to use men for favors while doing nothing in return. theres only a sewing of distrust and selfishness running rampant.

and its giving us an increase in men simping, and other men playing these whores out over their own superficiality. this worshipping of material things is murder on the men who are looking for a fair man and woman relationship. and its hurting the women too, they just dont really know it yet.

that thinking is what gives them the idea that pretty girls can do no wrong. a simp is always in the wings, waiting with a life raft and spare room for her kids and bills. he uses his money to get her, because thats what works on that type of woman. its like now he just waits for the upper crust whore to get downgraded in the market, and gets her second hand. its as if today no mistake is too big, she will be chosen and saved. even that woman who killed her child, casey anothony probably has men trying to get with her evil ass. when really, a fat ass and a cute smile is not that hard to find. but men thirst so hard it excuses whatever dumb or evil shyt women wanna do.

:comeon:

Now, we said there were two choices. Be you, or be someone else. If you are someone else, what happens when you do manage to catch the woman? You will eventually lose her because that act you put up will become way too tiring to maintain. Then the 'real you' will come out and the persona she was attracted to will disappear and she will wonder why you changed and peel off. The woman that will be there with you is the one you caught by being you, because she will always be getting what she liked in the first place. The key though is once you catch her by being you, you have to prevent your emotions from turning you into something else. You caught her being Mr. Cool, but now you really start developing feelings for her... you have to continue being Mr. Cool and avoid turning into a snuggle bear. What you caught her with is what you have to keep her with.

most definitely, Im all for improvement and changing for the better, and it has to come from yourself. it has to match up with where you want to go in life, and it has to be from something that YOU celebrate and enjoy being a part of.

being the next man is just a recipe for failure. and even if you do manage to get in the next mans shoes, its still not going to feel right for you.

same thing with women. you put a woman in your picture and let her change who you are and what you want to do, youre in for a life of compromise and missed opportunities. youre trying to force things too much. let her change you up and youll no longer be who you were looking to be.

So with the whole, never project thirst... the real answer is never BE thirsty. How do you do that? Have several activities you are always doing and don't put women that high on the totem pole. Make putting women beneath your other priorities something you just DO, so that it's an ingrained part of your routine. That's when you become 'natural' with it. Realize that unless she's given you a firm commitment that she wants to rock with you and has backed it up with action, realize that a lot of other women want to deal with you and you will have to analyze their worthiness as well, all while being up front with all of them.

yes indeed, putting your thirst in charge of you is exactly how these opportunistic females work their game on you. even on social media, we see chumps drooling and begging to pay so they can save these rats who have NOTHING going for them. its developling into a cycle thats all about using and playing one another out, instead of a fair balance of give and take.


When I said way back you have to have the Boss mentality, I meant it 5,000%. The problem a lot of cats have is that they are trying to WIN women. Instead, you are here to give a woman an opportunity. There is a big difference between the two. When you are trying to win a woman, you are looking at her value as higher than yours and you open yourself up to doing anything to obtain her. On the other hand, when you are giving her an opportunity, she has to come at YOU in the right way or you will take your time elsewhere. Cats that try to 'win' women are the ones who are looking for tips and techniques to try to dismantle some broad's stanking personality... trying to dismantle her ice shield and trying to work past all her nonsense. When you are giving a woman an opportunity, as if you are the boss hiring someone for your company, are you going to put up with your possible new hire giving you lip and trying to make you work for answers? You'll dismiss them and look for the next candidate.

everyone talks about standards, and as far as relationships go you always need to have these met. they need to make sense to you. when one woman is fukking up - let her know she can be cut off the team. men have an attitude of trying to make it work out, but theres certain thresholds which cannot be crossed. and men who are getting dogged out by their women need to draw the line squarely and definitively. you cant put up with nonsense and act like thats a good thing since you did it to salvage a relationship. you cant "win" for losing.

The key to truly having game is NOT in knowing what kind of tricks to use and what kind of fake persona you need to craft in order to try to impress some woman... True game is in knowing you are a worthy individual, and learning to express yourself to the fullest without being ashamed of yourself in any manner and to only deal with those who can truly see your value. Any other way is like trying to sell a shrimp platter to someone who doesn't like seafood. You're wasting your time, when you could easily sell that platter to someone who absolutely loves sea food. Don't waste the opportunities you give on someone who doesn't want it or can't appreciate it.

its good to put the effort when getting to know someone so that they know who you are, and that you are honest and real about yourself. after that its in her hands to do the same and accept it. when its not fitting though or you feel like theres some fakeness, then you have to go get another one that is on your level. get another customer looking to buy in, as this one is not worth your time anymore.

Now, final point is, cats have a lot of problems because of the aforementioned point of trying to WIN a woman. They want to convince this or that woman to 'act right', but have this added stipulation in her contract that she cannot be fired no matter how she acts. She knows she can get away with her nasty behavior and still be kept around, so she has no real incentive to act better. Cats are scared of firing or dismissing a woman because they place way too high of an emphasis on looks or some other factor. What REALLY is impressive about a woman is how she acts. You ever notice how women you aren't really feeling, you never seem to have problems with them? They aren't the ones flaking. They are the ones right on time. They aren't the ones smart-talking you. They come with disrespect. You know why that is? Because you aren't afraid to be yourself around them and you won't accept any of their wack behavior. When you can apply that same litmus test to women you actually like is when you will really be on it.

feeling a woman out personality-wise is the real test a man has to give her.

he should not be focused on impressing her, remembering stupid pick up lines, or wondering "what did I do wrong." if her behavior is all off and youre just being yourself, then lose the chick :aicmon:
 

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looks are really 90% of a womans game. that is step one in how they gain the upper hand on men to convince us that we need to bow down to the ones we are attracted to. its set up so you look at yourself as the suitor, and you treat her like she is the prize. the fukked up part about that is when you lose that game by falling into her looks, and going around doing what you can to please her, she wins this game and thus loses interest in you. it becomes a hoing game, where the man is her ho. a time ho, a money ho, an emotional ho, a favor ho, or whatever. those looks are her muscle, and you bowing to that little game is the instrument that they use to put that work in.

that little mind game they play is sick, but its always just a test to see how much shyt they can get away with. some have that constant testing mentality, "that if I can punk him then what is another man going to do to him?" thought process. they want to see how strong you are and how much you can really stand on your own feet. problem is, that shes either doing it so A) so she can see if youre feeble in the mind and can bend to her will, B) she doesnt know any other way of reading a good, capable man, C) it shows that she really doesnt stand by you and wants you to carry all of the weight, and D) she loves the drama/attention the fighting brings. she cries about it to her circle, she makes herself more interesting with the conflicts she can tell about to her friends, or its whatever. sheeit, if a bored chick can turn your life into a soap opera, then she will.
:wow:

so you can never put ANY woman, good looks or not, above you. no thirst. because thirst is a weapon against you. its a game you wont win in. you cant surrender your sack and let them decide whos calling the shots. cant let them decide if you look right, and you cant let them tell you if have enough monetary wealth to impress them. thats all just gimmicks and shiny objects that they will use against you. and thats all out of order for a true man. while its a part of their feminine game to recieve from you, it is not supposed to be abused by them. these spoiled girls take that niceness, and run with it.

when you think about it, their smaller frames and attractive looks is really all it takes to fool and sucker in a man. it makes him turn from lion to a cub. they may look harmless, but thats part of the trap. you go and let her ego run wild and watch how hard and mean they can be. we talk shyt like #hardonhoes but really, women been #hardonsimps and #hardonsuckers forever. and its all because these kinds of women cant appreciate substance. they chase money over everything else. first of all, they should have their own lives and decisions in order and not count on someone else to save them from their stupid shyt. second of all, if they didnt fall for the okie doke from players, they would be able to see a good man. and chances are they would not get themselves caught up in some real life mess. nobodys perfect, but you can exclude a lot of nonsense by choosing right from the jump and stop chasing a mans power and find your own. damn, men wouldnt be playing the material wealth and resources game on women if they didnt run after that.

the more we let them get away with being tricked on, using other men, us catering to them but not ourselves in a fair manner, and letting them get a blown up ego due to strictly their looks, then the worse men and women relationships become. it now a big part of todays culture to blow money on a random chick, or for women to use men for favors while doing nothing in return. theres only a sewing of distrust and selfishness running rampant.

and its giving us an increase in men simping, and other men playing these whores out over their own superficiality. this worshipping of material things is murder on the men who are looking for a fair man and woman relationship. and its hurting the women too, they just dont really know it yet.

that thinking is what gives them the idea that pretty girls can do no wrong. a simp is always in the wings, waiting with a life raft and spare room for her kids and bills. he uses his money to get her, because thats what works on that type of woman. its like now he just waits for the upper crust whore to get downgraded in the market, and gets her second hand. its as if today no mistake is too big, she will be chosen and saved. even that woman who killed her child, casey anothony probably has men trying to get with her evil ass. when really, a fat ass and a cute smile is not that hard to find. but men thirst so hard it excuses whatever dumb or evil shyt women wanna do.

:comeon:



most definitely, Im all for improvement and changing for the better, and it has to come from yourself. it has to match up with where you want to go in life, and it has to be from something that YOU celebrate and enjoy being a part of.

being the next man is just a recipe for failure. and even if you do manage to get in the next mans shoes, its still not going to feel right for you.

same thing with women. you put a woman in your picture and let her change who you are and what you want to do, youre in for a life of compromise and missed opportunities. youre trying to force things too much. let her change you up and youll no longer be who you were looking to be.



yes indeed, putting your thirst in charge of you is exactly how these opportunistic females work their game on you. even on social media, we see chumps drooling and begging to pay so they can save these rats who have NOTHING going for them. its developling into a cycle thats all about using and playing one another out, instead of a fair balance of give and take.




everyone talks about standards, and as far as relationships go you always need to have these met. they need to make sense to you. when one woman is fukking up - let her know she can be cut off the team. men have an attitude of trying to make it work out, but theres certain thresholds which cannot be crossed. and men who are getting dogged out by their women need to draw the line squarely and definitively. you cant put up with nonsense and act like thats a good thing since you did it to salvage a relationship. you cant "win" for losing.



its good to put the effort when getting to know someone so that they know who you are, and that you are honest and real about yourself. after that its in her hands to do the same and accept it. when its not fitting though or you feel like theres some fakeness, then you have to go get another one that is on your level. get another customer looking to buy in, as this one is not worth your time anymore.



feeling a woman out personality-wise is the real test a man has to give her.

he should not be focused on impressing her, remembering stupid pick up lines, or wondering "what did I do wrong." if her behavior is all off and youre just being yourself, then lose the chick :aicmon:


Man honestly, there is nothing that should really intimidate a man about a woman. Once you can get past her looking good, then what is so scary? If you have a harvard graduate woman with a couple of million bucks and came to talk to you, but she was as ugly as can be, would you be intimidated? Absolutely not. But what is so special about looks when it really comes down to it? Not much. Most of the fear when dealing with women comes from men embracing the win-lose paradigm. In this paradigm, the power over a man's self-esteem is given directly to the woman. You feel validated and feel great about yourself if she accepts you. If she rejects you, you feel awful. The woman has direct control over your self-esteem, and thus, dealing with women becomes a sort of fearful game.

Now when you embrace the boss paradigm and the Edison paradigm, the game is shifted. Your self-worth is NOT based upon what a woman thinks of you and she does NOT validate you. You validate yourself by how you adhere to your standards, your moral expressions and just your general thinking of yourself. Therefore, what you are doing is giving a woman an OPPORTUNITY, and if she rejects, you realize it's not big deal because there is another woman out there who would look at that same opportunity and really jump on it. Therefore, rejection and so-called "failure", is not really a bad thing, but in fact a great thing for you, because through the process of elimination, it is surely bringing you to the woman that really IS for you.

A man needs to remove his self-esteem from how women react to him. You will never know beforehand how a woman will react to you, and who is to even say her judgment is worth anything? So what are you really basing your self-esteem on when you do that? If a woman rejects you, you have to keep on realizing that you are of high worth, and say, "Oh well, what one woman doesn't feel, another woman will." If a woman comes at you with a stank attitude or a diss, don't take it as you are some unworthy man, but take it as her personality sucks, and she did a HUGE favor to you by exposing to you up-front the lack of quality in her character.

Like you said in another post, men steadily lose because they've never been trained in this kind of knowledge... or else they have some massive ego and think they know everything. Men are also taught by music, media and perhaps even simped out dads that the way to a woman's heart is by catering and compromising with her. Women come out the womb getting praised to the clouds by society, and especially men. Thus, they start developing this massive ego and really start feeling themselves. They also actively READ and discuss ways on how to deal with men and get what they want from men. Look at some of those forums out there like balleralert. This creates a buzzsaw in which men are RIPPED apart since you have a whole host of issues working against men. You have women with huge entitlement issues due to constantly being praised and they have circles of self-esteem reinforcers who lift her self-esteem back up no matter what she did-- aka her homegirls and simps who lurk around. Women have countless magazines and discussions with each other to learn to manipulate men. Instead of being taught to be a decent woman with morals and consideration for others, many women are taught a prostitute mindset from a young age, aka get with a rich man, get with a man who can do something for you, aka you got to use what you got to get what you want. The sad thing is, many of these women get that attitude from their mothers, who actively encourage it... So when you have unaware men or men with massive egos who don't study and then you have master manipulators who have their actions, no matter if it is bad, constantly reinforced by their circle of simps and homegirls, then you have a lot of men being decimated. Is it any surprise men have so many problems when men are taught from a young age to be tricks and women to essentially act like prostitutes?

This is why a gentleman's roundtable such as this is needed, for men to really discuss and improve themselves, as well as avoiding being torn apart by women.
 

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Question for the men that frequent this thread: What is the top piece of advice that you'd give to your younger self? In a tidbit form?

I would have to say that it would be to devote way more time to personal self-construction and less time toward telling a woman how great and amazing she is. Every time I look back on relationships that I've had, the ones where I had an appropriate amount of respect and gravitas in the relationship were ones where I built myself up in a substantial way, while having willingness to call women out for when they fukk up, almost in a way that treats them like a bratty little sister. The one where I fukked up was one where I was young and very dumb, telling her how amazing and beautiful she was, giving gifts, and a bunch of other things that she never reciprocated.

Ugh... I cringe every single time I think about how dumb I was with her. :snoop:
 

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Top piece of advice is never let her value outpace yours.
 

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Question for the men that frequent this thread: What is the top piece of advice that you'd give to your younger self? In a tidbit form?

I would have to say that it would be to devote way more time to personal self-construction and less time toward telling a woman how great and amazing she is. Every time I look back on relationships that I've had, the ones where I had an appropriate amount of respect and gravitas in the relationship were ones where I built myself up in a substantial way, while having willingness to call women out for when they fukk up, almost in a way that treats them like a bratty little sister. The one where I fukked up was one where I was young and very dumb, telling her how amazing and beautiful she was, giving gifts, and a bunch of other things that she never reciprocated.

Ugh... I cringe every single time I think about how dumb I was with her. :snoop:

Stop trying to help out women, stop sacrificing when they don't. Realize there is a abundance of women out there so Don't stress or care if one doesn't appreciate you.

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Question for the men that frequent this thread: What is the top piece of advice that you'd give to your younger self? In a tidbit form?

I would have to say that it would be to devote way more time to personal self-construction and less time toward telling a woman how great and amazing she is. Every time I look back on relationships that I've had, the ones where I had an appropriate amount of respect and gravitas in the relationship were ones where I built myself up in a substantial way, while having willingness to call women out for when they fukk up, almost in a way that treats them like a bratty little sister. The one where I fukked up was one where I was young and very dumb, telling her how amazing and beautiful she was, giving gifts, and a bunch of other things that she never reciprocated.

Ugh... I cringe every single time I think about how dumb I was with her. :snoop:
what's fukked up is, the younger me would probably look at me today like :scusthov:

a lot of the stuff we say here i think as children and teens we kinda know intuitively (not everything but some of it). and then we get older and the major losses we take can make us doubt and paralyze us. Plus the world keeps telling us "grow up!" and keeps shaming us into fitting their blueprint. I think this thread helps remind us of what we used to know instinctively and forgot over the years...


I'd probably tell myself to not think i'll ever own her p*ssy. "It's not your p*ssy, just your turn."
 

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what's fukked up is, the younger me would probably look at me today like :scusthov:

a lot of the stuff we say here i think as children and teens we kinda know intuitively (not everything but some of it). and then we get older and the major losses we take can make us doubt and paralyze us. Plus the world keeps telling us "grow up!" and keeps shaming us into fitting their blueprint. I think this thread helps remind us of what we used to know instinctively and forgot over the years...


I'd probably tell myself to not think i'll ever own her p*ssy. "It's not your p*ssy, just your turn."

Thats true...I feel like im coming back to my true elements in mostly all aspects of my life..

Sometimes you gotta destroy and rebuild...
 

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what's fukked up is, the younger me would probably look at me today like :scusthov:

a lot of the stuff we say here i think as children and teens we kinda know intuitively (not everything but some of it). and then we get older and the major losses we take can make us doubt and paralyze us. Plus the world keeps telling us "grow up!" and keeps shaming us into fitting their blueprint. I think this thread helps remind us of what we used to know instinctively and forgot over the years...


I'd probably tell myself to not think i'll ever own her p*ssy. "It's not your p*ssy, just your turn."

Its just a roller coaster, the ride may last a week, a month, a few years, just enjoy it. And when it's done :manny:

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I think if I could tell the younger me something it'd be that just because you 2 create a dream when you're together, doesn't mean once you're separated you have to work towards that dream. If she doesn't want it then she doesn't want it, and you shouldn't sacrifice your mental health to try and convince her to want it. There will always be more women, no matter how much you want this one, and to remember that nothing is important until you make it important. Before you loved her she was just a girl, when you're done loving her she's still a girl. Just let it go breh.

Fell asleep setting up a date with that Russian girl as well. Things are getting way better, thanks thread.
 

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Question for the men that frequent this thread: What is the top piece of advice that you'd give to your younger self? In a tidbit form?

I would have to say that it would be to devote way more time to personal self-construction and less time toward telling a woman how great and amazing she is. Every time I look back on relationships that I've had, the ones where I had an appropriate amount of respect and gravitas in the relationship were ones where I built myself up in a substantial way, while having willingness to call women out for when they fukk up, almost in a way that treats them like a bratty little sister. The one where I fukked up was one where I was young and very dumb, telling her how amazing and beautiful she was, giving gifts, and a bunch of other things that she never reciprocated.

Ugh... I cringe every single time I think about how dumb I was with her. :snoop:

I would tell myself to focus on the things that matter, and to stop trying to impress others. I spent so much of my younger years trying to impress girls to get my numbers up just so I could brag to my boys. It was a complete waste of time that took my focus away from where it should've been, on my education. Luckily I never had any illegitimate children. I did have to talk a couple girls into abortions, and my ex fiancee had a miscarriage. I look back on things and I just shake my head. I was lost and didn't even realize it. Luckily now I'm more focused, with a career that's very lucrative outside of the military. I'm just waiting for someone to come out with a time machine haha.
 

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And is this Black Phillip shyt on yt?

yup, all the episodes are on youtube.

here's episode 1



I've said it before and i'll say it again, this show changed my whole perspective when i listened to it in september. the girl is kinda of annoying but trust me, hang in there and listen to them all in order.

thank you BasedPatrice :blessed:
 
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yup, all the episodes are on youtube.

here's episode 1

The Black Phillip Show - 1 - YouTube

I've said it before and i'll say it again, this show changed my whole perspective when i listened to it in september. the girl is kinda of annoying but trust me, hang in there and listen to them all in order.

thank you BasedPatrice :blessed:

Rip

I'd suggest old Tom Leykis shows as well dude says a lot of great stuff

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to0MhzbSaq8"]Don't Weigh Your Life Down - Tom Leykis - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to0MhzbSaq8"]Don't Weigh Your Life Down - Tom Leykis - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbwtSutxd9I"]Ex-Loser Revenge - Tom Leykis - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COQuBq_DKQg"]Tom Leykis --- Ugly Girls Need to Work Harder - YouTube[/ame]

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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COQuBq_DKQg"]Tom Leykis --- Ugly Girls Need to Work Harder - YouTube[/ame]


One of my favs


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