Carlos Huerta
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LOL @ this retarded shyt. QBs that throw great balls and hit their receivers in stride would be no better than those who do not. Terrible just terrible posting.
Quarterbacks Getting Credit For Receivers' YAC Unappreciation Thread
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No matter what way you split up or look at the stats, air yards...whatever you can't completely remove the fact that a player's stats will be dependent on the play of others.
at the end of the day its a discussion my g and its a different viewpoint
this thread honestly should've just been called the Drew Brees factor, but I let him rock for about 2 pages
whether or not it works for offensive doesn't matter, thats not the end game
the point is that folks need to stop acting like tradition is set in stone
as if you're not supposed to grow and evolve with the game
whether or not you want to use yards in the air or whatever, you HAVE to look at yardage as more than 0-100 a:b
again, football outsiders already has this down to a T, and its a lot more effective for defensive players and linemen, in my humble opinion
but things such as drops, interceptions, fumbles absolutely should be redefined
if I'm not mistaken, the dropped balls category wasn't popularized until espn started using it against T.O....we need things like that to equalize this superiority complex certain fans/athletes have
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As if a 100 yard TD pass is even possible. Just goes to show the types we are dealing with here.
Obviously, jackasses. I was just making an example of how the lingo is used. If you look at how they title of the story as Luck's 63 yard TD pass, you would have thought he threw a long bomb for the touchdown, now that is definitely possible.
OMG some of you motherfukkers are really fukking dumb
What's was dumb about anything I said? All I said is that the lingo can skew the perception of what the quarterback does in the game. Which it does, that's a fact, evidenced by all the dikk choking ESPN is doing on Luck because of this play and all the fans on his dikk because of the reporting of this play. The way they amping it is like he did some amazing feat, not giving any credit to the WR at all. The play was nothing spectacular from the QB side of things, but he's getting all the attention/credit for the situation.
I can see that critical thinking isn't you guys strong point. Out of everything I said, ya'll try to decipher and address the part of the statement that was impossible in real life and when in actuality, it was irrelevant to the overall point of the statement. Ya'll must have been the same nikkaz that had issues with word problems at school. Ya'll hear that a "A train is coming from the east at 300MPH, how long will it take to get to the depot 1500 miles away?" And the first thing ya'll say is, "bu, bu but trains don't go 300MPH" instead of answering the obviously hypothetical question.
█ W.D.Y.D. █;1146061 said:
analysts usually go out of there way to call out a receiver for an incomplete pass or interception. and they be remembering the chits all thru the year too. like when they speak on certain QBs' numbers, they go out of their way to subtract like 5 interceptions and chit.
case in point, when speaking on luck's numbers the other day, they went out of their way to say that x amount of incompletes werent his fault. but theyre quick to say he threw a 63 yard touchdown pass, when in reality, all he did was toss a 3 yard pitch.
the funniest part is that it wasnt even a WR.
it was a glorified shovel pass to the HB.
homie i PLAYED football AND basketball.
branch did okay actually. the other 2 are morso a product of belichick.
now lets talk about how dope the patriots were when matt cassell was quarterback.
█ W.D.Y.D. █;1146313 said:
this is moreso the product of the fact that the colts didnt have a quality backup.
again, see the patriots.
wasnt he injured last year?
and why didnt favre get his chit off in new york like he did when he went to go play with rice, harvin, shiancoe, etc?
teebow made a whole career out of it. from taking all the shine that shouldve went to demaryus thomas, to the media completely ignoring that 85 yard field goal that won some game. sadly i cant even remember the game, nor the kicker. ive been brainwashed.
Maybe i'm misinterpreting the OP, but I don't even think it's about the stats, because stats never have, and never will, tell the whole story. I think the problem is more so our reaction to the plays, even when we clearly saw that the HB/WR had more to do with that play resulting in a touchdown than Luck did. But people want to act like it was some immaculate play from Luck.
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Brady is the king of this. Most of his passing yards are YACs gained by his receivers. Not hating, but everybody sees this shyt. I give him credit for knowing where the open receiver is and where to throw the ball against defenses though.
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I'll give you Branch, injuries really hampered him in Seattle. Lol @ the other two being products of Beli...that's a defensive minded QB you're talking about, smh. Brady made them.
And the Pats weren't dope without Brady, they missed the post season (after winning 18 games the previous year). Replace any good team with a Pro Bowl level QB and they'll almost make the playoffs.
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Untill he injured his throwing arm(torn bicep if im not mistaken) Favre was playing at a very high level with the Jets.
yea thats the point.
altho i must say that people have made some great points about mis-leading stats in here as well.
meanwhile, people are in here championing brady as the cut creator of nfl stars.
if not
, the credit the offensive coordinator or whoever is calling most of the shots over there. they have a system over there b.i dont recall.
but i vividly remember favre stumbling out the gates.
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meanwhile, people are in here championing brady as the cut creator of nfl stars.
if not
Brady's still top 3 in GOAT QB discussion. His ability to read defenses and make the right decision ain't flashy like when Favre throws into triple coverage, but don't get it twisted and minimize how good he is. I'd take him over anyone not named Montana.
So should the WRs yards not start counting until after the catch?Have to have it both ways right
I mean its not like WR have to run routes and get open ya know
