Put Some Hornacek On Our Game: 2016 New York Knicks Offseason Thread

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

at you blaming everyone but him. He gets none of those looks if 'Melo doesn't attract doubles. If Kris plays, let alone starts, he should get critiqued. He got 7 inches on 'Melo and is healthy, yet he doesn't consistently rebound better than 'Melo does on 1 knee and O'quinn always out-rebounds him. We wanna blame Sasha and Jose for being blown by, but they didn't give Teague layups. Kris, Lopez, O'Quinn (who are paid to rebound and protect the rim), and refs did. Gallo and Grant didn't defend Teague any better because the refs wouldn't let them. Europeans always get all the praise for being mediocre to trash. No one was telling Fish to bench Kris when Teague was getting layups, but bench Sasha and Jose. Jose and Sasha don't get passes for being old, but Kris gets one for being a rookie. No one blamed Fish for playing this rook who hasn't played well since the day he was drafted. Fish doesn't get a pass for having only 1 year of coaching, and one where he was told to throw the season to be able to draft Kris, but Kris gets a pass for being a rook. He played like trash on both ends, just like most of the rest of them. There's nothing wrong with saying that. I think he will be a great player some day, but it's unfair to critique everyone but him. That said, there was no one person to blame.

these type of comments (2 games into the season!) are the reason people are worried if Kristaps will be able to thrive in NY

this is such a NY media like attitude to take with the kid

let him breathe

She not even from NY though she's from LA.

 

[GhostoftheMan]

Grant
Williams
Melo
Oquinn
Lopez

should be the starting 5


its the truth

derrick and melo can't be on the floor at the same time at any point. derrick is going to succeed the best when you let him cook and putting melo out there with him is going to hinder that

 

[Kings County]

melo gotta be more of a slasher going to the hoop bully ball
that post up shyt just stops the flow of the offense

 

[Trip]

Carmelo took 27 shots last night, and the Knicks lost.

It's comforting to know that some things never change.

If you're going to take 27 shots(which is outrageous in itself) you better at least be making half of them. How many of those shots were long jumpers? 20? It's ridiculous.

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

This wasn't that much of a surprise to me. The Hawks were fresh of being embarrassed at home and the Knicks were on a second night of a back to back. Writers who seriously call the Hawks a contender are casual and delusional.

 

[Victim of Racism]

bruh shut the fukk up
lets be real...this team is not contending for a title...the fukk you so angry for
the only way for true improvement to be found is to get kristaps adjusted to the league by playing against starters...and having him adjust and other teams adjust to him
the game is moving a bit fast for him...but benching him solves nothing.....he's the biggest talent on this roster not named melo...and moving forward has a huge chance at being the franchise player
and yes...it is sasha and calderons fault....rim protectors cant protect the rim EVERY TIME DOWN THE COURT

dudes were getting blown by with remarkable ease
idk why im even addressing a post by a person that thinks melo > lebron
my bad knickas

at you assuming I'm "angry".

I don't mind KP playing. I think he should play. And when he does, I won't shy away from admitting he's helping NY lose games. Fish doesn't have to bench him, but saying doing so does nothing is false. Amundson could protect the rim in KP's place since KP is neither shooting well, nor protecting the rim.

Sasha and Jose can't stop PG's every time down the court either and the fact is, Kris doesn't even prevent layups most of the time. PG's are getting layups with "remarkable ease".

It's legit hilarious how sensitive everyone is over Kris.

If I couldn't actually win a debate comparing LeWashed to 'Melo, I'd laugh too.

 

[Victim of Racism]

She not even from NY though she's from LA.

That's what I thought.

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

at you assuming I'm "angry".

I don't mind KP playing. I think he should play. And when he does, I won't shy away from admitting he's helping NY lose games.

Sasha and Jose can't stop PG's every time down the court either and the fact is, Kris doesn't even prevent layups most of the time. PG's are getting layups with "remarkable ease".

It's legit hilarious how sensitive everyone is over Kris.

If I couldn't actually win a debate comparing Lj to 'Melo, I'd laugh too.

to be fair, Calderon and vujacic couldn't stop Derek fisher from getting to the basket right now. It's not about to stopping PGs every time, they can't stop them any of the time. And Teague and Schroeder are 2 of the fastest and best finishing guards in the league. It's not fair to put that on KP.

 

[Victim of Racism]

to be fair, Calderon and vujacic couldn't stop Derek fisher from getting to the basket right now. It's not about to stopping PGs every time, they can't stop them any of the time. And Teague and Schroeder are 2 of the fastest and best finishing guards in the league. It's not fair to put that on KP.

You do know that the lighting quick Grant gave up almost as many baskets as old-man Jose to Teague, right? José gave up two baskets on fastbreaks, two on pnr to Teague. Grant gave up one on a pnr, one on a fb, and one on fb off of his TO.

Schroder ate Gallo. Only Gallow gave up baskets to him. Jumper, dribble drive, layup from a Horford pick, jumper from a Horford pick, layup.

KP can't stop them any of the time either. When did he ever make a PG have a bad night? I'll wait. Why is it ok to blame Jose and Sasha for being blown by, but not Kris, Rolo, and O'Quinn for PG's getting layups? If blow-bys are automatic layups, why pay centers? Fact is, all of them deserve blame, but for some reason, no one wants to give Kris any of the blame, even though he's allowed to play. Everyone has their excuses as to why they're failing. 'Melo is hurt, Rolo is hurt, Jose and Sasha are old, KP is a rook, etc. Of course it's fair to put it on anyone who is allowed to play, and that includes Kris. smh

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

That's what I thought.

You in here always caping for Melo when he deserves the blame he gets. He's our teams leader and if everyone is playing like shyt it's your responsibility to pick up the slack.

Everyone was doing their thing against the Bucks except him so the rest of he team covered for him. Can't have that night in and night out. Fisher deserves major blame too. He's putting trash lineups out there and leaves them out too long. The bench got us back in the game in the second quarter then he went back to the starters and Atlanta muppet point guards went off.

Wtf is he putting out there

 

[Reid2Achieve]

Y'all will be straight once Melo gets his legs under him. Definitely need Afflalo to come back healthy and ready to play D.

 

[GhostoftheMan]

Fisher deserves major blame too. He's putting trash lineups out there and leaves them out too long. The bench got us back in the game in the second quarter then he went back to the starters and Atlanta muppet point guards went off.

this is my biggest issue, it's like he's just being robotic and not making decisions based on how certain players are doing. how did cal and vuj get like 43 mins combined when it's obvious vuj was tired and cal wasn't going to stop anything. lance getting 20 mins while cle gets less than 2? RoLo sitting at weird times and he allows Melo to out up brick after brick. Phil needs to have a talk with this nikka

 

[Victim of Racism]

You in here always caping for Melo when he deserves the blame he gets. He's our teams leader and if everyone is playing like shyt it's your responsibility to pick up the slack.

Everyone was doing their thing against the Bucks except him so the rest of he team covered for him. Can't have that night in and night out. Fisher deserves major blame too. He's putting trash lineups out there and leaves them out too long. The bench got us back in the game in the second quarter then he went back to the starters and Atlanta muppet point guards went off.

Wtf is he putting out there

Ain't nobody caping for nobody but KP. I blamed 'Melo for playing like trash on both ends. No one wants to blame KP for the same. And no, just because you play better than everyone, it's not your job to pick up anyone's slack. No one applies those standards other players. When Lj loses, all people say is he had no help. When Jordan couldn't make it out of the first round without Pippen, all people said was he didn't have help. You're saying this dumb stuff about 'Melo because you choose to. You sound ridiculous. Just making up stuff to blame him for. You would accuse me of "caping". Y'all so brainwashed by the media that whenever a person doesn't blame 'Melo for everything, it's "caping".

Besides, he did try to pick up the slack. He shot the ball 27 times because no one could make a shot. It didn't work because he can't jump.

The team didn't cover for 'Melo. Without 'Melo, the team gets none of the looks they got. And he was being doubled-teamed all night against the Bucks. They didn't even have to double him for the team to get those looks — just him being on the floor creates those looks. They get even better looks when he's doubled and tripled.

It's funny how Fisher's lineups are bad because they're playing poorly, but it's perfectly fine to allow KP to play poorly. Get all the way out of here with that.

 

[KnickstapeCity]

@ZemaPromos if I'm ever out in LA, I'll hit you up and maybe we can grab lunch and talk about your fascination with Carmelo.

What are some good restaurants out there?

On another note, if we lose tomorrow again, I'm going to lose my shyt, brehs and brehette.

 

[Victim of Racism]

@ZemaPromos if I'm ever out in LA, I'll hit you up and maybe we can grab lunch and talk about your fascination with Carmelo.

What are some good restaurants out there?

On another note, if we lose tomorrow again, I'm going to lose my shyt, brehs and brehette.

That's what I thought. Meanwhile, KP is a superstar with his 30% to 40% struggle buckets and 2-8 rebounds at 7'3''.