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Kris P. The Ghost has played great defense it's just that he's still light and can get muscled sometimes but he puts effort. He also is a pretty good help defender and has done some nice blocks on players coming in the paint.
Put Some Hornacek On Our Game: 2016 New York Knicks Offseason Thread
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At u throwing some of the blame at kris2nd game of his nba career and he out there scoring, attracting double teams , getting rebounds and blocks. Nothing more u can ask of a kid coming out the euro leagues at 20 years of age.
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I'm still waiting for Porzingis knock down shots and get into rhythm.
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2nd game of his nba career and he out there scoring, attracting double teams , getting rebounds and blocks. Nothing more u can ask of a kid coming out the euro leagues at 20 years of age.
Bro, she's a big Melo fan. Let her cook.
I was legit reading the shyt she wrote like
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I think I can agree he has better chemistry with the second unit. They play faster and share the rock quicker plus Quinn gawd can set him up on some Pau shyt in the post.
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worldstar kris will be just fine
the rest of the squad apart from derrick williams is ehhh right now
melo just cashing checks and plotting on janky ass business moves it seems
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the rest of the squad apart from derrick williams is ehhh right now
melo just cashing checks and plotting on janky ass business moves it seems
next
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Fellas (and Zema)... didn't get to watch the game tonight, but listen... we can't have a repeat of last year with all the f*cking extremism. Every win doesn't mean we're winning the championship, and every loss doesn't mean another 60-loss season.
Stay balanced fellas (and Zema)
Stay balanced fellas (and Zema)
Man On Fire
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Why is Calderon still a Knick?
And then cut Travis Trice?
Just start Galloway and Grant in the back court please
KP will be alright hes still learning
And then cut Travis Trice?
Just start Galloway and Grant in the back court please
KP will be alright hes still learning
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Laughing at you n*ggaz like “ha ha ha”
You're right. It had nothing to do with your lack of defense, 20+ turnovers or talent stricken team. But you don't respect us right?
storyteller
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Frustrating one to write up.
Game Summary - Tough loss, we got outplayed nearly all game long. Some of this was due to tired legs; the poor three point shooting, lack of fast breaks and poor three point defense (due to slow rotations mainly)...this was an early in the season, second night of a back to back performance against the Eastern Conference's winningest team. That's not to excuse some of the crap play though, D-Fish continues to have really questionable rotations and Budenholzer just thoroughly outcoached the guy. Calderon is basically inviting PG's to get into a rhythm early and this is twice now that our twin towers front court looks shaky against a front court that's agility and range based.
KP - Kristaps was a bright spot on the night despite his 4 TO's. 10 points and 8 boards in 26 minutes is impressive for a rookie, especially when his shot was flat. His aggression was nice to see and on defense he was an impact player. He had steals, a block and Milsap didn't get a rhythm all night. I wish the Knicks would make a more pointed effort to establish him closer to the basket, where he drew so many fouls.
Carmelo - He's doing a lot of a good things on the court, but it's easy to focus on his shooting because it's so glaring. We need scoring and his first two games have been inefficient, which I think has a lot to do with his piss poor three point shooting. His passing was strong again, he's getting good boards (not just freebies in space but grabbing the ball out of crowds) and defensively he's been an undeniable positive sum player. When he gets his legs under him for those jumpers, he'll be putting together some head turning stat-lines.
Robin Lopez - Dude managed to put up 18 just going with the flow of things, scoring incredibly efficiently. His rebound numbers look awful, but again, I'd attribute a handful of rebounds for the other guys directly to the way that Lopez clears things out with his box outs. Defensively he got lit up by Horford, no two ways about that...but when Horford is knocking down three's from the furthest points on the arc and Jeff Teague is consistently hitting the paint, that's gonna happen. The 5 TO's are concerning though, we haven't been able to run the offense through his passing which is a bit surprising.
Jose Calderon - If he's not even good enough to see 20 minutes on the floor, why the hell should he start? Jeff Teague ate off this dude, if you're playing draft kings, the PG he's matched with is going to be a good bet until he's benched. Compound that with the fact, he's not shooting well or creating for anyone on the offensive end right now and the guy has just been flat awful these first to games.
Sasha Vujacic - 25 minutes is too much for him. I won't blame him for that. He worked hard and didn't do anything glaringly bad besides shoot poorly, but you can't ask him to pass up the good looks or the system will fold anyway. I'm not gonna hate, but we'll be much better off with AA taking a big chunk of the minutes and Sasha taking spot duty.
KOQ - He had damn near no legs, to the point of looking like he was playing in cement shoes at times and he still looked like one of our best players. He grabbed board with great instinctive, high energy play. He shot the midrange ball better than he played the inside game actually and he passed the ball well as usual. He was our best defensive big by a large margin as well. His tired legs hurt him with the TO's when he got the ball in traffic in the paint but he was otherwise a quality player out there.
D-Will - If the opposition is making baskets and we're stuck in the half-court offense, this dude won't be able to go off like he has in other games. His offense is predicated on getting the ball in motion and with space to attack, he didn't have that last night. The problem was compounded by a flat jumper that you might expect after all the energy he spent the night before. He settled for the jumper too often instead of looking to reset with the kick out but that'll happen when you're the go-to off the bench scorer. His rebounding was more typical of his career, not great. Defensively he was pretty solid though, which is really all I ask of the guy. 18 minutes, tired legs, not a bad performance.
Jerian Grant - It's only two games, but he's been better than Calderon at every facet of the game except protecting the ball. He still needs to get more of an attacking attitude, 4 FGA's isn't enough for a guy who is getting into the lane so frequently. That said, he had 7 assists and 7 boards plus led the team in it's few scoring runs. Jeff Teague is tough to guard for anyone and once he got going, Grant couldn't really slow the guy down (but I'ma flat out say that Teague got going in match-ups with Calderon). He's gonna be starting sooner than later.
Galloway - I kinda want to flip out on Fisher for not putting Galloway into the game as a momentum breaker against Atlanta. He's our best perimeter defender and we were getting torched from three. He also started the game with a couple of three's and some nice chemistry with Grant, but somehow felt relegated after that initial run. The two three's wound up being his only FG's and Sasha tied him in minutes played despite the two being polar opposites impact wise. I thought LG was on the verge of going off early, he never really got a chance to hit a rhythm.
Lance Thomas - The positive, he worked hard and hit a pair of three's...the bad he was 2-6 from the field and all 6 attempts were disturbingly wide open because Atlanta was happy to leave him to do his awkward ass offensive thing while they just worried about the other four guys. His two three's were more fool's gold is what I'm saying. When he's on the floor, it's easier to collapse in the paint and force a TO on say...KOQ or close the slashing lane off from say...Jerian Grant. Like Sasha though, it ain't his fault. Put that on the coach.
D-Fish - The starting line-up doesn't work. Look at the plus/minus for the starters compared to the bench in both games. The rotations were really confusing all night long. The first man off the bench in the third when our starters lost momentum...Lance Thomas. When the team would go on runs, he'd ride that line-up too long. Our guys would cut into the lead by 8 points and then give up a run for 10 or 12 points before he changed the line-up or took a time out. Budenholzer is one of the better coaches in the league, so he made Fish look worse by comparison. He made smart time outs and wouldn't overdo it riding a hot hand (best example being his willingness to put Schroeder in even when Teague had been cooking). On the second night of a back to back the most egregious thing to me was that he didn't utilize Early. We needed energy, fresh legs and something to get the break going...we were up against a fairly undersized front court...and Early never got a chance despite his stellar performances in the last preseason games. The game was decided and Melo was left in there for 3 or 4 minutes more than he had to be, when he's coming off a surgery. I can chalk this loss up to tired legs, but I believe we could have had a better shot if our coach wasn't making such strange decisions.
Random - Two for two in my draftkings tournaments this season thanks to KOQ being cheap and picking PG's battling Calderon. Lamar Patterson looked like a really nice find for the Hawks...sucks for THJ lol.
Game Summary - Tough loss, we got outplayed nearly all game long. Some of this was due to tired legs; the poor three point shooting, lack of fast breaks and poor three point defense (due to slow rotations mainly)...this was an early in the season, second night of a back to back performance against the Eastern Conference's winningest team. That's not to excuse some of the crap play though, D-Fish continues to have really questionable rotations and Budenholzer just thoroughly outcoached the guy. Calderon is basically inviting PG's to get into a rhythm early and this is twice now that our twin towers front court looks shaky against a front court that's agility and range based.
KP - Kristaps was a bright spot on the night despite his 4 TO's. 10 points and 8 boards in 26 minutes is impressive for a rookie, especially when his shot was flat. His aggression was nice to see and on defense he was an impact player. He had steals, a block and Milsap didn't get a rhythm all night. I wish the Knicks would make a more pointed effort to establish him closer to the basket, where he drew so many fouls.
Carmelo - He's doing a lot of a good things on the court, but it's easy to focus on his shooting because it's so glaring. We need scoring and his first two games have been inefficient, which I think has a lot to do with his piss poor three point shooting. His passing was strong again, he's getting good boards (not just freebies in space but grabbing the ball out of crowds) and defensively he's been an undeniable positive sum player. When he gets his legs under him for those jumpers, he'll be putting together some head turning stat-lines.
Robin Lopez - Dude managed to put up 18 just going with the flow of things, scoring incredibly efficiently. His rebound numbers look awful, but again, I'd attribute a handful of rebounds for the other guys directly to the way that Lopez clears things out with his box outs. Defensively he got lit up by Horford, no two ways about that...but when Horford is knocking down three's from the furthest points on the arc and Jeff Teague is consistently hitting the paint, that's gonna happen. The 5 TO's are concerning though, we haven't been able to run the offense through his passing which is a bit surprising.
Jose Calderon - If he's not even good enough to see 20 minutes on the floor, why the hell should he start? Jeff Teague ate off this dude, if you're playing draft kings, the PG he's matched with is going to be a good bet until he's benched. Compound that with the fact, he's not shooting well or creating for anyone on the offensive end right now and the guy has just been flat awful these first to games.
Sasha Vujacic - 25 minutes is too much for him. I won't blame him for that. He worked hard and didn't do anything glaringly bad besides shoot poorly, but you can't ask him to pass up the good looks or the system will fold anyway. I'm not gonna hate, but we'll be much better off with AA taking a big chunk of the minutes and Sasha taking spot duty.
KOQ - He had damn near no legs, to the point of looking like he was playing in cement shoes at times and he still looked like one of our best players. He grabbed board with great instinctive, high energy play. He shot the midrange ball better than he played the inside game actually and he passed the ball well as usual. He was our best defensive big by a large margin as well. His tired legs hurt him with the TO's when he got the ball in traffic in the paint but he was otherwise a quality player out there.
D-Will - If the opposition is making baskets and we're stuck in the half-court offense, this dude won't be able to go off like he has in other games. His offense is predicated on getting the ball in motion and with space to attack, he didn't have that last night. The problem was compounded by a flat jumper that you might expect after all the energy he spent the night before. He settled for the jumper too often instead of looking to reset with the kick out but that'll happen when you're the go-to off the bench scorer. His rebounding was more typical of his career, not great. Defensively he was pretty solid though, which is really all I ask of the guy. 18 minutes, tired legs, not a bad performance.
Jerian Grant - It's only two games, but he's been better than Calderon at every facet of the game except protecting the ball. He still needs to get more of an attacking attitude, 4 FGA's isn't enough for a guy who is getting into the lane so frequently. That said, he had 7 assists and 7 boards plus led the team in it's few scoring runs. Jeff Teague is tough to guard for anyone and once he got going, Grant couldn't really slow the guy down (but I'ma flat out say that Teague got going in match-ups with Calderon). He's gonna be starting sooner than later.
Galloway - I kinda want to flip out on Fisher for not putting Galloway into the game as a momentum breaker against Atlanta. He's our best perimeter defender and we were getting torched from three. He also started the game with a couple of three's and some nice chemistry with Grant, but somehow felt relegated after that initial run. The two three's wound up being his only FG's and Sasha tied him in minutes played despite the two being polar opposites impact wise. I thought LG was on the verge of going off early, he never really got a chance to hit a rhythm.
Lance Thomas - The positive, he worked hard and hit a pair of three's...the bad he was 2-6 from the field and all 6 attempts were disturbingly wide open because Atlanta was happy to leave him to do his awkward ass offensive thing while they just worried about the other four guys. His two three's were more fool's gold is what I'm saying. When he's on the floor, it's easier to collapse in the paint and force a TO on say...KOQ or close the slashing lane off from say...Jerian Grant. Like Sasha though, it ain't his fault. Put that on the coach.
D-Fish - The starting line-up doesn't work. Look at the plus/minus for the starters compared to the bench in both games. The rotations were really confusing all night long. The first man off the bench in the third when our starters lost momentum...Lance Thomas. When the team would go on runs, he'd ride that line-up too long. Our guys would cut into the lead by 8 points and then give up a run for 10 or 12 points before he changed the line-up or took a time out. Budenholzer is one of the better coaches in the league, so he made Fish look worse by comparison. He made smart time outs and wouldn't overdo it riding a hot hand (best example being his willingness to put Schroeder in even when Teague had been cooking). On the second night of a back to back the most egregious thing to me was that he didn't utilize Early. We needed energy, fresh legs and something to get the break going...we were up against a fairly undersized front court...and Early never got a chance despite his stellar performances in the last preseason games. The game was decided and Melo was left in there for 3 or 4 minutes more than he had to be, when he's coming off a surgery. I can chalk this loss up to tired legs, but I believe we could have had a better shot if our coach wasn't making such strange decisions.
Random - Two for two in my draftkings tournaments this season thanks to KOQ being cheap and picking PG's battling Calderon. Lamar Patterson looked like a really nice find for the Hawks...sucks for THJ lol.
Don't forget @Danie84Fellas (and Zema)... didn't get to watch the game tonight, but listen... we can't have a repeat of last year with all the f*cking extremism. Every win doesn't mean we're winning the championship, and every loss doesn't mean another 60-loss season.
Stay balanced fellas (and Zema)
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Who do you work for? Nice analysis.
KOQ was probably emotional because the organization honored his dad before the game.
Calderon is probably being showcased. Hopefully he will traded to the first team that loses a PG due to injury.
Lol. Lance Thomas is awkward. But I don't dislike him as much anymore.
Melo was supposed to be in peak physical condition right? Maybe he just isn't in game shape. His shot just isn't falling. I liked that he was being vocal with the team. He just needs to get his shooters rhythm and draw more fouls.
Anyone familiar with Afflalo's return timetable? What can we expect from him?
Who do you work for? Nice analysis.
KOQ was probably emotional because the organization honored his dad before the game.
Calderon is probably being showcased. Hopefully he will traded to the first team that loses a PG due to injury.
Lol. Lance Thomas is awkward. But I don't dislike him as much anymore.
Melo was supposed to be in peak physical condition right? Maybe he just isn't in game shape. His shot just isn't falling. I liked that he was being vocal with the team. He just needs to get his shooters rhythm and draw more fouls.
Anyone familiar with Afflalo's return timetable? What can we expect from him?
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It's sad to say, but I'm approaching this roster as if Afflalo & Calderon don't even exist.
Calderon for obvious reasons...dude plays like a member of the Americans cast in a championship game between Russia & the U.S. He's essentially making it EASY for opposing teams to score.
And Afflalo, I'm not going to do the same tired Knicks act of hoping for an injured player to come back even though he's plagued by an annoying injury. I have this sick feeling that Afflalo will not play more than 60 games...
Outside of that, Melo is having a tough time getting back into the flow of regualr season games... And Porzingis is actually showing us why his pick was worth it...W/O the PORtly fellow, we'd have probably chosen Mudiay & not traded for Grant. Two for the price of one, can't complain.
Calderon for obvious reasons...dude plays like a member of the Americans cast in a championship game between Russia & the U.S. He's essentially making it EASY for opposing teams to score.
And Afflalo, I'm not going to do the same tired Knicks act of hoping for an injured player to come back even though he's plagued by an annoying injury. I have this sick feeling that Afflalo will not play more than 60 games...
Outside of that, Melo is having a tough time getting back into the flow of regualr season games... And Porzingis is actually showing us why his pick was worth it...W/O the PORtly fellow, we'd have probably chosen Mudiay & not traded for Grant. Two for the price of one, can't complain.
Knicksman20
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It's his timing that's off. You can tell he's still getting used to lifting off the repaired knee. Melo getting it together is the least of my concerns though bruh. It's Fish's rotations that bother me a bit & the energy level we had in this back to back. We didn't defend the 3 pt line well enough & got torched. We also have to take care of the ball better as well.