Purdy Brown Eyes...Not A Jimmy G Thing Either...No Homo…Official 2022 San Francisco 49ers Thread!

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"Fields not motivated by 2021 draft, 'glad' 49ers passed on him"


He a god damn lie. He's basically saying he is glad he got passed on to never have a chance at a super bowl ring. :comeon:
 

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Let's take a look at our safeties.

Talanoa Hufunga - 2nd year safety drafted in 6th round, looking like the steal of last years draft. While not an amazing athlete, he is what I like to call a downhill tackler, as he seems not to tackle as much as he goes through opposing offenses. If he gets a headful of steam he hits hard and decisively. While he doesn't have soft hands for interceptions he always seems to be where the ball is and has made key special teams plays as a rookie. If he can work on his hands he has top 10 potential, imo.

Performance - B-
Potential: B+
Overall: B

George Odum - Veteran Safety from the Colts, I don't think this pick up gets talked about enough he's a sure tackler, solid in coverage, he can play the strong role or free role. He can sub in the slot, he can do a little bit of everything and we got him at a very reasonable price.

Performance: B
Potential: B
Overall: B

Jimmy Ward - 2014 2nd draft pick and one of the last holdovers of the Trent Baalke era. Ward has been a talented if injury prone safety. He starts this season on injured reserve as we speak. When healthy he has emerged as one of the leagues better safeties and a stalwart of the defense. While I only think he has a couple of seasons of starter level play left. He is a favorite of the coaching staff and has been a very solid part of this defense especially the past 3 seasons.

Performance: B
Potential: C+
Overall: B-

Dontae Johnson - After being drafted in the 4th round, he has been an and off the team. At this point he's primarily a good reserve corner/safety to have just in case on the practice squad. But if he gets any significant snaps, we're in trouble as it means we are down to the last safeties on the team.

Performance: D
Potential: D
Overall: D


Taylor Hawkins - San Diego state safety. He is going to be a developmental prospect. He has ideal size at 6'1 205. He also has good speed running a 4.53 40 time. He is noted to be smart player on and off the field. But he has issue tackling which is a no-no in out defense and while he had a few defended passes and in INT his senior year, he also has gotten burned a few times. Despite this with Jaquaski Tartt gone, he can develop into a special teams player with his good speed and develop into an emergency safety.

Performance: D
Potential: C-
Overall: D+

Unit Analysis:

When healthy this is a solid unit, while most of these guys are more better in run support and tackling as opposed to pure coverage, it hasn't really hurt the defense as a whole save a few moments here and there. This is another position by committee as the top 3 guys will see action in different packages and as needed. I don't know if it is a strength per se, but it's not a liability either. I will say the depth beyond the starters is shaky and as much as it pains me to say it, bringing Tartt isn't the worst of ideas as he's still better than Johnson or Hawkins.

Unit Grade: B-
Jimmy Ward should be D-
 

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:heh: so basically it looks like Lenoir will be on the streets by next year. Verrett is so solid, just can't stay healthy, he looked like a top tier corner most of the time when he was healthy.
Verrett is basically Mostert on defense. :mjlol: Lenoir is from the PAC 12 this is the norm for them 90% of the time for those bums. :unimpressed:
Don't be surprised if Drake Jackson disappoints. That would be real sad considering Bosa is on the other side. Niners just need to stay away from that conference.
 

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That’s delusion….. if Rodgers was so great…. He should’ve already won multiple
Y’all trying to have this discussion like the NBA. Or rating player in a vacuum.

It’s very easy to see a great player, even on a bad team, and determine that if they played on a good team, they’d win…

Word to Matt Stafford. Word to Tom Brady. Word to a lot of other qbs and players at other positions, who go to a team and then they win a ring. But it’s football. There’s 52 other people who can help or fukk it up for you.
 

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Y’all trying to have this discussion like the NBA. Or rating player in a vacuum.

It’s very easy to see a great player, even on a bad team, and determine that if they played on a good team, they’d win…

Word to Matt Stafford. Word to Tom Brady. Word to a lot of other qbs and players at other positions, who go to a team and then they win a ring. But it’s football. There’s 52 other people who can help or fukk it up for you.


Nope…. No Devils Advocate for this

Rodgers is overated.

His teams haven’t been bad… he failed them
 

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Verrett is basically Mostert on defense. :mjlol: Lenoir is from the PAC 12 this is the norm for them 90% of the time for those bums. :unimpressed:
Don't be surprised if Drake Jackson disappoints. That would be real sad considering Bosa is on the other side. Niners just need to stay away from that conference.

Luckily his job is just to occupy a tackle. Our d-line will make him look better than he is. He's just gotta stay healthy.
 

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Looks like we're in for a slightly rainy day in Chicago. Doubtful Kittle plays in wet weather.... and we likely will try to run the living crap out of the ball
 

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Nope…. No Devils Advocate for this

Rodgers is overated.

His teams haven’t been bad… he failed them
Point out his failures when they lost. Cause didn’t special teams completely fukk this up for them vs us in the offs?

You saying rodgers on the Niners would have done worse with Jimmy G?
 

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Point out his failures when they lost. Cause didn’t special teams completely fukk this up for them vs us in the offs?

You saying rodgers on the Niners would have done worse with Jimmy G?

Well since MANY of them GB team’s overall have been better than the Niners teams




Rodgers is one less SB from being Vinny Testaverde
 

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Nope…. No Devils Advocate for this

Rodgers is overated.

His teams haven’t been bad… he failed them

My problem is they need to stop giving QBs all the credit in wins and losses. There are 10 other dudes on your side of the ball. You not winning with trash. A good QB can get you over the top with solid talent, but you not turning shyt into sugar.

And we haven't even gotten to specials teams or defense.

Stop overrating QBs PERIOD.

Giving these dudes a quarter of your cap with 52 others on the team then they wonder why they can get solid help to build around them. YOU TAKING UP TOO MUCH OF THE fukkIN MONEY FOOL :dead:
 

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My problem is they need to stop giving QBs all the credit in wins and losses. There are 10 other dudes on your side of the ball. You not winning with trash. A good QB can get you over the top with solid talent, but you not turning shyt into sugar.

And we haven't even gotten to specials teams or defense.

Stop overrating QBs PERIOD.

Giving these dudes a quarter of your cap with 52 others on the team then they wonder why they can get solid help to build around them. YOU TAKING UP TOO MUCH OF THE fukkIN MONEY FOOL :dead:
Nah see that’s exactly what I’m saying the opposite of. Qb touches the ball every offensive play. Besides the center, nobody touches it more. There is nobody who impacts the game more.


The issue is counting wins and losses and ignoring skill and leadership. TB was shyt with Crab Legs and won a SB by changing from him to Brady. Rams made a bowl, but couldn’t sniff it again with all that talent. Got a qb who couldn’t win shyt with the trash lions and immediately won a ring. Slap Mahomes in KC and they go from playoffs to automatic super bowl best odds every year. You take Aaron off Green Bay and nobody would pick them to get out of the north. Denver is shyt and Seattle has a shot. Russ leaves and Denver’s in title contention and Seattle is a tanking team.


There’s no other position that can change an entire team like that. My issue is people acting like they can’t see clearly better QBs because they are on worse teams. If mahomes came to the Niners, we wouldn’t lose another SB for 3 years. Qbs matter. A lot.
 

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Nah see that’s exactly what I’m saying the opposite of. Qb touches the ball every offensive play. Besides the center, nobody touches it more. There is nobody who impacts the game more.


The issue is counting wins and losses and ignoring skill and leadership. TB was shyt with Crab Legs and won a SB by changing from him to Brady. Rams made a bowl, but couldn’t sniff it again with all that talent. Got a qb who couldn’t win shyt with the trash lions and immediately won a ring. Slap Mahomes in KC and they go from playoffs to automatic super bowl best odds every year. You take Aaron off Green Bay and nobody would pick them to get out of the north. Denver is shyt and Seattle has a shot. Russ leaves and Denver’s in title contention and Seattle is a tanking team.


There’s no other position that can change an entire team like that. My issue is people acting like they can’t see clearly better QBs because they are on worse teams. If mahomes came to the Niners, we wouldn’t lose another SB for 3 years. Qbs matter. A lot.

Disagree. TB makes the playoffs with Jameis just being slightly better with the ball the next season.

Tom threw 3 picks in the NFC championship but his team still won.

QBs are definitely important but they can be overvalued too.

There have been plenty of mediocre QBs who've won SBs. And that was because the rest of the team was great behind them.
 

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Disagree. TB makes the playoffs with Jameis just being slightly better with the ball the next season.

Tom threw 3 picks in the NFC championship but his team still won.

QBs are definitely important but they can be overvalued too.

There have been plenty of mediocre QBs who've won SBs. And that was because the rest of the team was great behind them.
Tom Whitey Brady got a revamped team in Tampa. We see Winston looked much better with the Saints before injury.
 
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