Purdy Brown Eyes...Not A Jimmy G Thing Either...No Homo…Official 2022 San Francisco 49ers Thread!

[Mike Wins]

I'm all for Purdy having a cinderella season, I don't believe he will pull it off but I'd love to be wrong. Having said that, something tells me Niners management see a narrative opportunity and they are going all in with it...





Why is it so hard to believe Shanny is a stubborn motherfukker that thought he could make Trey the new Lamar Jackson/Josh Allen so he had a scheme in mind and ran it no matter what. That's WAAAY more believable to me than thinking he wanted Mac Jones and traded up for him when he could've gotten him without trading anything.

I'm always baffled when Niner fans say Kyle never really wanted Lance. Dude went ahead and talked him up for an entire offseason after he was drafted and was like a giddy little kid talking to the media on some "we trolled you guys!". Kyle is not a person that's gonna put on show for the cameras for 3 straight years, specially when he's the one looking like the moron in the situation. If Trey wasn't his choice and he wanted another QB in the 2021 draft, at this point he would've at least pointed to that or leaked something to Shefter.

Agree with all this. His weakness is he stubborn and arrogant as hell

If you can trade him to Denver for a bunch of draft picks and promote Ryans? I'm doing that in a heartbeat but Jed ain't doing that.

He made some dumb draft moves and in game decisions and deserve criticism for that but let's be real. A win tomorrow means the playoffs for third time in four years injuries being the reason that ain't four in a row. With two NFC championship appearances and a trip to the Super Bowl. With average QB play. Dudes acting like he dog shyt need to hit the At worst he's a top 5-7 coach right now

 

[Jmare007]

Agree with all this. His weakness is he stubborn and arrogant as hell

If you can trade him to Denver for a bunch of draft picks and promote Ryans? I'm doing that in a heartbeat but Jed ain't doing that.

He made some dumb draft moves and in game decisions and deserve criticism for that but let's be real. A win tomorrow means the playoffs for third time in four years injuries being the reason that ain't four in a row. With two NFC championship appearances and a trip to the Super Bowl. With average QB play. Dudes acting like he dog shyt need to hit the At worst he's a top 5-7 coach right now

I don't think he's dogshyt. I just think he'll never win a ring with us. He probably needs to get humbled in SF and eventually get over the hump with another team. I've always said he's the new Andy Reid.

And to be honest, at this point I'm confident in putting blame (not all of it of course) on Kyle of our injury issues.

 

[calh45]

I've been saying this all season. Why give this guy up when Kyle is the problem? That HC/OC just ain't it. Give up those play calling duties. He never will though.

Kyle has made some disaster picks and the whole rookies don't play unless someone hurt is beyond retarded.

I have never been more mad at a coach this Sunday going back to Erickson. Dennis Erickson used to have me in the house fighting my inner demons. The front office/ownership has to make a decision this off season about him because him being playcaller isn't a Super Bowl winning solution.

I agree on the sentiment of "fukk Kyle" but I don't agree it's a personal gripe he has with players. I think dude just pictures schemes and plays with players in mind and runs them like he's playing Madden with injury sliders off. He doesn't think of health risks, he thinks about perfect execution, first downs and TDs. Then players get hurt and his ego drives him to think he can replace anyone either in the same scheme or come up with something new. Players are a piece of a puzzle and he's more concerned about solving the puzzles no matter what.

That mentality is doom to fail every single time and that's why I have no issue with him being gone. If he somehow gets us a 6th ring then he has the right to do whatever the fukk he wants and I'll shut up, but until he does....fukk him

I used to think this too until I started to really pay attention to how he's doing with Purdy. He's protected him and allowed him to take shots in ways he didn't do with Trey or Jimmy. Regardless of my feelings about their shortcomings his playcalling style/flow changed. Trey OR Jimmy with this version of Kyle's playcalling is KILLING teams.

Kyle's red flag is his inflexibility with flexible players. That's why he lost the Atlanta super bowl. That's why we lost the KC super bowl. Both of those are examples of his peak as a coach in charge of playcalling who requires less talented players to pull off his desired approach. He'll never win a Super Bowl as a playcaller.

 

[Mike Wins]

I don't think he's dogshyt. I just think he'll never win a ring with us. He probably needs to get humble in SF and eventually get over the hump with another team. I've always said he's the new Andy Reid.

And to be honest, at this point I'm confident in putting blame (not all of it of course) on Kyle of our injury issues.

The blame lie with him drafting and signing too many injury prone players for sure. And he hired two training staffs that players constantly get hurt under

Only thing I ain't a fan of blaming him for is the play calling shyt, outside the Arizona game last year where he seemingly called 20 designed runs for Trey. That shyt was ridiculous, and ineffective

But Deebo's a 220 pound player whose value is in his versatility. I ain't sitting here today feeling better if he got hurt running a slant pattern. Yeah Trey got hurt running, but Jimmy get hurt every damn year on called passes. Don't remember nobody complaining about designed runs with Kap. Lamar, Allen, our own fans favorite Fields, they run all the time. The AZ game last year was overkill but NFL teams not sitting here saying we can't let our best runners run the ball, they might get hurt

 

[Mike Wins]

I have never been more mad at a coach this Sunday going back to Erickson. Dennis Erickson used to have me in the house fighting my inner demons. The front office/ownership has to make a decision this off season about him because him being playcaller isn't a Super Bowl winning solution.


I used to think this too until I started to really pay attention to how he's doing with Purdy. He's protected him and allowed him to take shots in ways he didn't do with Trey or Jimmy. Regardless of my feelings about their shortcomings his playcalling style/flow changed. Trey OR Jimmy with this version of Kyle's playcalling is KILLING teams.

Kyle's red flag is his inflexibility with flexible players. That's why he lost the Atlanta super bowl. That's why we lost the KC super bowl. Both of those are examples of his peak as a coach in charge of playcalling who requires less talented players to pull off his desired approach. He'll never win a Super Bowl as a playcaller.

Not saying you're wrong but can you point out specific play calls? Because in Trey's limited time Kyle has dialed up a lot of big hitters and Trey has mostly hit em. From what I seen Trey's only real problem been letting his lower body mechanics get away from him time to time and sailing the ball because of it

With Jimmy, he just ain't that good at throwing deep down the sidelines. The play calling reflect that and he also throw into heavy coverage over tge middle too many times when if he came off that read he got a big play

Purdy, look at his easy TD throw to McCacffrey against Miami. I feel like Jimmy looking off that wide open first read and forcing it into triple over the middle

 

[Jmare007]

The blame lie with him drafting and signing too many injury prone players for sure. And he hired two training staffs that players constantly get hurt under

Only thing I ain't a fan of blaming him for is the play calling shyt, outside the Arizona game last year where he seemingly called 20 designed runs for Trey. That shyt was ridiculous, and ineffective

But Deebo's a 220 pound player whose value is in his versatility. I ain't sitting here today feeling better if he got hurt running a slant pattern. Yeah Trey got hurt running, but Jimmy get hurt every damn year on called passes. Don't remember nobody complaining about designed runs with Kap. Lamar, Allen, our own fans favorite Fields, they run all the time. The AZ game last year was overkill but NFL teams not sitting here saying we can't let our best runners run the ball, they might get hurt

The Arizona and Texans games last year clearly showed Trey was NOT a QB who should be schemed like he was Lamar or Allen. Then 2023 starts and it's like nothing happened and he's still being used like he's those guys. If Kyle was so adamant about running plays like those for Trey, then at least teach him how to run, when to slide and how to take a hit. None of those things happened and dude got injured again.

The two training staffs failings are HUGE fukking red flags too.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

what statements ? that Trey was running the ball on QB runs inside instead of passing the ball ? thats just stating the obvious. Trey never looked as comfortable passing the ball as Purdy has

yes, the sample size of Purdy is small and like Ive said he will likely crash and burn - but in that half, aside from the pick he got bailed out on by the refs, it was a dominant half performance, so much that second half became an afterthought. Trey doesnt have this yet in his arsenal.

and thats on Kyle

Yea the part missing from that stat is “during that comparison time, Trey also had 189 rushing yards and a rushing TD”

So it’s clear they are being used totally different. But that says to me that Trey has an arsenal that Brock doesn’t have, rushing the ball.

So the passing stats are similar, while Purdy did it in less time. But the rushing stats are astronomically in Trey’s favor.

I just want to see more from Purdy. I def don’t wish bad on him. I need him to win this SB and prove me wrong. But today, I’m not willing to give him that. Today

 

[Busby]

Reading the last few posts

My God…this fanbase doesn’t appreciate shyt

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

why are some fans so heated... bruh.. we got two young QB's that seem to have at least starter potential.. shouldn't we be happy?

 

[Mike Wins]

why are some fans so heated... bruh.. we got two young QB's that seem to have at least starter potential.. shouldn't we be happy?

We got dudes that's still heated about years old Kirk Cousins and Mac Jones rumors

These muhfukkas was never even on the team

 

[calh45]

Not saying you're wrong but can you point out specific play calls? Because in Trey's limited time Kyle has dialed up a lot of big hitters and Trey has mostly hit em. From what I seen Trey's only real problem been letting his lower body mechanics get away from him time to time and sailing the ball because of it

With Jimmy, he just ain't that good at throwing deep down the sidelines. The play calling reflect that and he also throw into heavy coverage over tge middle too many times when if he came off that read he got a big play

Purdy, look at his easy TD throw to McCacffrey against Miami. I feel like Jimmy looking off that wide open first read and forcing it into triple over the middle

We can skip past the rush attempts, because even though Purdy is a more fluid runner than Trey, Kyle doesn't use him as a runner in the same way. That point is beyond obvious. He was running QB powers with Trey. Trey had the most carries than anyone against Chicago, in a storm, when Jeff Wilson, Elijah, and Deebo were healthy as hell and should have been first options before our freshly starting QB. He does nothing near the same type of exposure with Purdy.

The passing point is proven by your last statement even though there's less of a track record with Lance in the passing game, but every pass with him was long developing. There weren't the "easy" throws in the version Trey had in the early downs. How many rollouts do you remember Trey doing? Purdy had multiple pass plays moving the pocket or getting the ball out of his hands. Trey's game plan seemed to be about keeping the ball in his hands whether it was pass or run. How much tighter are the formations they're passing out of vs the wider spread sets against blitzes? The formations have been heavier too.

Jimmy is a check down king. He's not going to look past a RB throw. He'll miss someone down field, but not an RB right in front of him. Jimmy was groomed in a west coast offense. Go rewatch the play Jimmy was hurt. The motioned a running back OUT of protection against a jail break blitz with a barely mobile QB. How is that not setting Jimmy up to fail? That was a literal inescapable situation for Jimmy.

 

[Admiral Ackbar]

We got dudes that's still heated about years old Kirk Cousins and Mac Jones rumors

These muhfukkas was never even on the team

Bruh I'm mad we drafted Druckenmiller and Carmazzi.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

why are some fans so heated... bruh.. we got two young QB's that seem to have at least starter potential.. shouldn't we be happy?

"If you have two qb's you have none"

Nah we don't need year 3 of who's gonna start and when's the fanbase gonna call for the backup to play..

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

Bruh I'm mad we drafted Druckenmiller and Carmazzi.

Bro I'm still pissed Kap threw that ball to Crabtree.. Like WHAT??

 

[Mike Wins]

We can skip past the rush attempts, because even though Purdy is a more fluid runner than Trey, Kyle doesn't use him as a runner in the same way. That point is beyond obvious. He was running QB powers with Trey. Trey had the most carries than anyone against Chicago, in a storm, when Jeff Wilson, Elijah, and Deebo were healthy as hell and should have been first options before our freshly starting QB. He does nothing near the same type of exposure with Purdy.

The passing point is proven by your last statement even though there's less of a track record with Lance in the passing game, but every pass with him was long developing. There weren't the "easy" throws in the version Trey had in the early downs. How many rollouts do you remember Trey doing? Purdy had multiple pass plays moving the pocket or getting the ball out of his hands. Trey's game plan seemed to be about keeping the ball in his hands whether it was pass or run. How much tighter are the formations they're passing out of vs the wider spread sets against blitzes? The formations have been heavier too.

Jimmy is a check down king. He's not going to look past a RB throw. He'll miss someone down field, but not an RB right in front of him. Jimmy was groomed in a west coast offense. Go rewatch the play Jimmy was hurt. The motioned a running back OUT of protection against a jail break blitz with a barely mobile QB. How is that not setting Jimmy up to fail? That was a literal inescapable situation for Jimmy.

Trey is 6'4" and 230, Purdy look 6'0" and 200 tops and Trey's faster. Designed runs were a major part of Trey's game in college. Not to mention Purdy got no viable backup. Not a realistic comparison

Kyle's offense gives the QB more layups than anyone else. Jimmy consistently bottom 5 in air yards per pass but top 5 in yards per attempt. Against Chicago over half Trey's runs came on pass calls. They tried giving him easy quick looks but Chicago did a good job taking those away

Far as Jimmy he been in the league 9 years. 6 in this system. That play he got hurt on they showed the all out blitz. He gotta call timeout or know he gotta hit the hot read right away. That shyt was not disguised

Far as Purdy, most the plays he getting hyped for he either standing in and delivering throws downfield in the face of a pass rush or eluding the rush and making something happen. Basically what fans been begging Jimmy to do. Mostly it ain't due to safe play calls which Jimmy get plenty of himself