the cac mamba
Veteran
look at this weak, pathetic, disgusting loserthe contrast would be so bad with newsom that his handlers wouldn't even let him get on the debate stage
POTUS or Prisoner; The '24 Trump Campaign Fvckery thread
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look at this weak, pathetic, disgusting loserthe contrast would be so bad with newsom that his handlers wouldn't even let him get on the debate stage
GnauzBookOfRhymes
Superstar
It's easy for me to argue against that idea, considering how far his poll numbers have plummeted since he took office.
How Popular Is Joe Biden?
Latest polls on President Joe Biden’s approval ratingsprojects.fivethirtyeight.com
This isn't about what I believe, or what you believe. You can make a great argument that he's outperformed our expectations. But if "damn near everyone" was impressed with how well he's governed, then his approval rating wouldn't have fallen from 50-55% during his presidency's first year to just 35-40% now.
Breh just stop. I'm the last mf in here that you could credibly accuse of being in an echo chamber. I have zero problems going at Dems and have been talking for years about their weaknesses/liabilities etc.
But your analysis is off base and you're starting to do that thing where ppl make accusations (such as your point about feinstein) completely ignoring the context. I hate arguing w/ ppl like that bc you end up spending all this time correcting the record.
Let's just return to this post in a year.
Silky Johnson
The Master Investbreh
I want to win but let me tell you why my team is going to lose is literally the definition of a defeatist, breh.
Defeatists love to nit pick every possible flaw with Biden as if he exists in a vacuum and not competing against a broke-soon-to-felon that he beat last time. What is the GOP doing differently this time around that makes it impossible for Biden to beat them again?
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Breh, the only thing these conservative Christian nationalists care about is white grievance. I’m fully convinced they would choose a live in squalor if they could stick it to blacks, Mexicans, gays and Muslims etc.
The whitest and poorest states, West Virginia, Kentucky, Arkansas, vote overwhelmingly Republican and attack progressive policies that they could benefit from. Obama’s election was the final straw for them in respect to ever voting Democratic.
How to you even begin to engage these kinds of deplorable people let alone win them over.
Had a spark when you started
GnauzBookOfRhymes
Superstar
Unions gonna go crazy for Biden in 2024.
Is "pessimistic" the word you're looking for?
Defeatist is someone who thinks there's no chance to win and doesn't want to try. Since I'm arguing for Dems to try something, it can't possibly be a "defeatist" position. And even if they stuck with Biden, I think Dems have a shot, it's just a lower shot.
You're the only one who is saying "impossible".
But what is the GOP doing differently? Well, they don't have to play defense on a shytty economy this time. That is usually good for several percentage points, and since they only lost by a fraction of a percent last time, that alone could put them over the top.
Yet Democrats still were dominating AFTER the Civil Rights Act passed. That was the biggest fukk you to the white grivance voters possible, back when the parents and grandparents of today's voters were even more racist, and the Dems still were dominating the legislatures.
Those are hilarious examples because West Virginia has a Democrat Senator and Kentucky has a Democrat Govenor right now. Kentucky voted for their Democrat governor in 2018 (after voting for a Democrat AG in 2012 and 2016) and West Virginia voted for a Democratic senator in 2010, 2012, and 2018....all six of those elections came after Obama's election and one of those was with Obama right there on the damn ticket. You just proved yourself that the opening for a Democrat to get elected is far wider than you give credit for.
So it's simply wrong to claim that Democrats can't win in those states. And we don't have to just talk about the "whitest poorest states". The issue is also why Democrats are underperforming in North Carolina, and Louisiana, and Missouri, and Wisconsin, and Ohio. Those are a huge mix of states (and there are others like them) where Democrats should be either more competitive or more dominant than they are, but they're struggling like hell right now because they have been shedding voters like crazy all across the spectrum.
Demographically, the Democrats should be kicking ass. The country has been getting less white, the country has been getting more educated, the Baby Boomers have been dying off. Every demographic shift has been to their advantage. So why aren't they showing steadily improving gains?
Silky Johnson
The Master Investbreh
This you?
Neither will Biden since unemployment is historically low, GDP is rising & inflation is cooling. Any talk about spending is neutered because the Republicans control the house. If they try to run on the economy they will lose.
What other specific policy will the GOP will run on that will move voters away from Biden and to their party?
Silky Johnson
The Master Investbreh
Reality Check
Keepin' it 100
And Biden is supposedly the one who doesn't know where he is
the cac mamba
Veteran
This is straight delusion status. Do you know any voters at all? I'm on a facebook group in one of the communities we work in, and all they talk about is how shytty the economy is. Doesn't matter whether it is true or not, it is DEFINITELY what voters think.
Swing-state voters trust Trump more on economy: survey
Voters in swing states said they trust former President Trump more than President Biden on matters of the economy, according to a new poll. The Bloomberg News/Morning Consult poll, published on Thu…
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The Bloomberg News/Morning Consult poll, published on Thursday, showed 49 percent of likely voters in seven swing states trusted Trump over Biden — who earned 35 percent — on the economy.
Those numbers are even starker for Biden when zeroing in on the independent voters, who could be the determining factor in the 2024 presidential election. About 47 percent said they trusted Trump more, and 25 percent said they trusted Biden more.
The respondents — from Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — selected the economy as the most important issue heading into the next presidential election. Eighty-three percent said the issue was “very important,” and 13 percent said it was “somewhat important.”
Biden is down double-digits to Trump on the economy, which voters consider by far the most important issue. Those are terrible numbers for him.
More data:
President touts 'Bidenomics' though new poll shows just 34% approve his handling of the economy
President Joe Biden had a tough sell Wednesday, trying to convince voters that the U.S. economy is flourishing.
apnews.com
Biden Goes All In on Bidenomics. Voters Aren’t Buying It
High prices have turned economic issues that could’ve been a re-election tailwind into a headwind
www.livemint.com
Biden hails hot GDP report, but voters don't see the rosy picture Wall Street does
"I never believed we would need a recession to bring inflation down," said President Joe Biden, after a new GDP report showed 5% growth last quarter.
www.cnbc.com
Silky Johnson
The Master Investbreh
This is straight delusion status. Do you know any voters at all? I'm on a facebook group in one of the communities we work in, and all they talk about is how shytty the economy is. Doesn't matter whether it is true or not, it is DEFINITELY what voters think.
Swing-state voters trust Trump more on economy: survey
Voters in swing states said they trust former President Trump more than President Biden on matters of the economy, according to a new poll. The Bloomberg News/Morning Consult poll, published on Thu…
The Bloomberg News/Morning Consult poll, published on Thursday, showed 49 percent of likely voters in seven swing states trusted Trump over Biden — who earned 35 percent — on the economy.
Those numbers are even starker for Biden when zeroing in on the independent voters, who could be the determining factor in the 2024 presidential election. About 47 percent said they trusted Trump more, and 25 percent said they trusted Biden more.
The respondents — from Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — selected the economy as the most important issue heading into the next presidential election. Eighty-three percent said the issue was “very important,” and 13 percent said it was “somewhat important.”
Biden is down double-digits to Trump on the economy, which voters consider by far the most important issue. Those are terrible numbers for him.
More data:
President touts 'Bidenomics' though new poll shows just 34% approve his handling of the economy
President Joe Biden had a tough sell Wednesday, trying to convince voters that the U.S. economy is flourishing.
Biden Goes All In on Bidenomics. Voters Aren’t Buying It
High prices have turned economic issues that could’ve been a re-election tailwind into a headwind
Biden hails hot GDP report, but voters don't see the rosy picture Wall Street does
"I never believed we would need a recession to bring inflation down," said President Joe Biden, after a new GDP report showed 5% growth last quarter.