POTUS or Prisoner; The '24 Trump Campaign Fvckery thread

[Worthless Loser]

You definitely don't talk at length about something you have minimal control over, in this case inflation. You just look like you're making promises that you can't keep.

The administration only has the ability to chip away at inflation, they don't have a direct means to manipulate it. The problem has always been and will always be that people don't understand that the state of the "economy" is broad and does not affect the average person directly or immediately outside of unemployment. People feel the way they do about the economy purely based on anecdotal evidence of others parroting what they hear and consciously/unconsciously missing the extra income the stimulus provided.

The problem is that most voters think he has control over it. Therefore he has to act like it. Act like he feels their pain, act like he cares, show what they are doing to address it. It would demonstrate to the voters that he's working to address their critical concerns.

You have to remember that most voters don't know anything. Their motto is when somebody goes wrong, blame the President.

You shouldn't be dismissive of their feelings. Voters feel the way they do because they go to the grocery store and shyt is more expensive than it was 3 years prior. And rent + gas has been more expensive. That is the economy to them. Which is why Bidenomics falls on deaf ears. It doesn't resonate with what your average person goes through on a day to day basis.

 

[Hood Critic]

The problem is that most voters think he has control over it. Therefore he has to act like it. Act like he feels their pain, act like he cares, show what they are doing to address it. It would demonstrate to the voters that he's working to address their critical concerns.

You have to remember that most voters don't know anything. Their motto is when somebody goes wrong, blame the President.

You shouldn't be dismissive of their feelings. Voters feel the way they do because they go to the grocery store and shyt is more expensive than it was 3 years prior. And rent + gas has been more expensive. That is the economy to them. Which is why Bidenomics falls on deaf ears. It doesn't resonate with what your average person goes through on a day to day basis.

His administration fought and worked with Congress to pass the Inflation Reduction Act which was signed into law in 2022. Yet, with all that empathizing, we're still here.

No one can bring pandemic prices back without a pandemic.

 

[satam55]

 

[Worthless Loser]

His administration fought and worked with Congress to pass the Inflation Reduction Act which was signed into law in 2022. Yet, with all that empathizing, we're still here.

No one can bring pandemic prices back without a pandemic.

The inflation reduction act didn't really address inflation. It did have a lot of good things in it though. In particular the climate money and Medicare drug pricing.

While the Biden team did use that bill as a messaging tool against inflation, they largely ignored it for 2 years which is incredibly inept.

Those lower prices existed before the pandemic. Out of control government spending (most of which happened under Trump, American Rescue Act under Biden) and supply production coming to a halt are two key factors that led to inflation. The voter base blames Biden. Therefore Biden needs to tell the voters he's addressing it. Simple, smart politics.

Low unemployment and high job creation does not matter right now. It does not help Biden politically no matter how much Dems communicate it.

You have to meet voters where they're at. You can't bullshyt them. Politicans too often tend to bullshyt them.

 

[Pressure]

The economy is strong. Proof? The gains received in the UAW labor negotiations.

 

[Worthless Loser]

The economy is strong. Proof? The gains received in the UAW labor negotiations.

We know the economy is strong. The problem is the voters don't think that way. If they did Biden would have better polling on the economy.

 

[Pressure]

We know the economy is strong. The problem is the voters don't think that way. If they did Biden would have better polling on the economy.

No, voters are self interested. So you’re always going to have a mixed bag.

Folks who stare at their 401k/IRA daily or those who took advantage of the COVID stock boom are going to say it’s bad.

Folks who’ve seen their wages jump are going to view it as good.

People who had the enhanced child tax credit that got shot down are going to feel it’s worse (elections have consequences).

We could go on and on.

The same metrics folks credit Trump for showing the economy was good (GDP and unemployment) are NOW insufficient because people aren’t honest.

 

[Worthless Loser]

No, voters are self interested. So you’re always going to have a mixed bag.

Folks who stare at their 401k/IRA daily or those who took advantage of the COVID stock boom are going to say it’s bad.

Folks who’ve seen their wages jump are going to view it as good.

People who had the enhanced child tax credit that got shot down are going to feel it’s worse (elections have consequences).

We could go on and on.

The same metrics folks credit Trump for showing the economy was good (GDP and unemployment) are NOW insufficient because people aren’t honest.

If the current grocery, gas and rent prices happened under Trump he would have the same polling numbers as Biden on the economy.

 

[Pressure]

If the current grocery, gas and rent prices happened under Trump he would have the same polling numbers as Biden on the economy.

They did.

The same metrics folks credit Trump for showing the economy was good (GDP and unemployment) are NOW insufficient because people aren’t honest.

How Donald Trump's Presidency Has Affected Our Food

What is the impact that outgoing President Donald Trump has left on our food supply? We take a deep look at the challenges President Biden will face.

www.foodbeast.com

 

[the cac mamba]

We know the economy is strong. The problem is the voters don't think that way. If they did Biden would have better polling on the economy.

it's fukkin gas prices

"groceries are inflated" is a bullshyt talking point, yeah theyr'e a little higher but there's no solidarity there. everyone buys a million different groceries. gas prices are the one fukkin commodity that everyone is acutely aware of

i don't know what the answer is, but biden's messaging is horrendous, and not remotely as good as republicans talking about unleashing american energy

 

[Worthless Loser]

They did.

How Donald Trump's Presidency Has Affected Our Food

What is the impact that outgoing President Donald Trump has left on our food supply? We take a deep look at the challenges President Biden will face.

www.foodbeast.com

These prices did not exist under Trump's Presidency. C'mon dude. You know this. You don't have to twist yourself into a pretzel over this.

 

[Pressure]

These prices did not exist under Trump's Presidency. C'mon dude. You know this. You don't have to twist yourself into a pretzel over this.

Why do you have to be such a fukking liar all the god damned time.

• Housing prices skyrocketed under Trump.
• Rental prices increased 44% under atrump
• Food prices were increasing at 4%yoy under Trump

This is literally the culmination of those same policies that juiced the economy and Covid.

The fact that the Us is doing better than other comparable countries seems to have no value in this shyt.

This argument you’re making is the same shyt you did before Biden was elected

The same shyt you did at midterms over an oil pipeline

 

[Worthless Loser]

Why do you have to be such a fukking liar all the god damned time.

• Housing prices skyrocketed under Trump.
• Rental prices increased 44% under atrump
• Food prices were increasing at 4%yoy under Trump

By the numbers: As of April 2022, a typical U.S. home was worth $344,000 — up from $270,000 at the end of 2020.

• That's a jump of just under $74,000 in less than a year and a half.
• It's also more than prices rose over all four years of the Trump administration, the data showed.
• Rent is also getting pricy, typically costing $1,900 per month — up more than $300 from December 2020.

-Axios

Tell me again how prices were so bad under Trump:

https://www.idahostatesman.com/living/food-drink/article261725032.html

Since the Pandemic, Food Prices Have Risen 23.5 Percent; People the NYT Interviews Have Seen Much Sharper Increases

NYT readers should know that anyone who has seen the cost of their food basket rise by 66.7 percent is either very atypical or badly confused about how much they used to pay for food.

www.cepr.net

Also, if you really want to be that guy about rent prices, rent has been steadily increasing since 1985. But tell me how those rent prices under Trump are just as bad as under Biden.

Average rent in U.S. by apartment size 2023 | Statista

Average rent in the U.S. increased significantly since 2021, as the monthly rent of apartments in November 2023 was over 200 USD higher than three years ago.

www.statista.com

I don't know why you're doing this. The data is not on your side. To pretent that this is not a vulnerability for Biden is to live in fantasy land. Democrats tend to live in fantasy land too often and it cost them sometimes.

Also, no idea why we are discussing this here when the thread is about the Republican primary and party primarily.

 

[Pressure]

By the numbers: As of April 2022, a typical U.S. home was worth $344,000 — up from $270,000 at the end of 2020.

• That's a jump of just under $74,000 in less than a year and a half.
• It's also more than prices rose over all four years of the Trump administration, the data showed.
• Rent is also getting pricy, typically costing $1,900 per month — up more than $300 from December 2020.

-Axios

Tell me again how prices were so bad under Trump:

https://www.idahostatesman.com/living/food-drink/article261725032.html

Since the Pandemic, Food Prices Have Risen 23.5 Percent; People the NYT Interviews Have Seen Much Sharper Increases

NYT readers should know that anyone who has seen the cost of their food basket rise by 66.7 percent is either very atypical or badly confused about how much they used to pay for food.

www.cepr.net

Also, if you really want to be that guy about rent prices, rent has been steadily increasing since 1985. But tell me how those rent prices under Trump are just as bad as under Biden.

Average rent in U.S. by apartment size 2023 | Statista

Average rent in the U.S. increased significantly since 2021, as the monthly rent of apartments in November 2023 was over 200 USD higher than three years ago.

www.statista.com

I don't know why you're doing this. The data is not on your side. To pretent that this is not a vulnerability for Biden is to live in fantasy land. Democrats tend to live in fantasy land too often and it cost them sometimes.

WHO WAS PRESIDENT IN 2020?







Purposely pretend to not understand Trends brehs

 

[Worthless Loser]

WHO WAS PRESIDENT IN 2020?







Purposely pretend to not understand Trends brehs

So we can agree that prices under Trump were not as bad as the current prices.