Posting signs outside the homes of convicted rapists and child molesters.

[MR. SNIFLES]

you don't know much about the psychology behind sexually predatory behavior do you? it's not like the other crimes you're trying to relate it to. you should read up about it before going so hard for Pedos.

MOST PREDATORS ARE SOCIALLY AWKWARD PEOPLE. FURTHER OSTRACIZING THEM FROM SOCIETY AFTER THEIR SENTENCE IS NOT PRODUCTIVE IN TRYING TO REHABILITATE THEM. REHABILITATION IS THE GOAL INITIALLY. IF REHABILITATION IS NOT POSSIBLE THEN SOCIETY IS NOT WHERE THIS PERSON BELONGS. HE/SHE BELONGS BEHIND BARS AT THAT POINT.

 

[Broke Wave]

You're using a slippery slope illogical fallacy. We aren't talking about "all other felonies." We're talking about rapists and child molesters. Stay on point.

"Bu bu bu bu but what about the wrongly convicted? " What about them when they were in prison? We should stop sending rapists and molesters to prison on the off chance they could be wrongly convicted? fukk outta here with these wah wah arguments.

And paying your debt to society extends far beyond jail time obviously. Sex offenders registry, loss of voting rights, etc. etc. And who cares, they are sexual predators. I can't believe you all are arguing these pieces of shyt shouldn't be marked and branded with signs in their yards. Anyone arguing for any sorts of rights for a convicted rapist or child molester has something wrong with them, seriously.

Um, paying your debt to society should be decided by a judge, not by some dikkhead county. Justice and restitution should ONLY be decided on a mutual basis, or through the courts. PERIOD. I don't believe that these people should get the yard signs, I just think they should get very stiff sentences. This other shyt is just extra-judicial and unconstitutional.

 

[MR. SNIFLES]

Yeah, you are definitely a pedo.

White collar criminals, muthafukka what? People are born with a predisposition to do ponzi schemes? This nikka is really trying to compare white collar criminal to a pedophile, I'm done

 

[Anothergirl]

You're using a slippery slope illogical fallacy. We aren't talking about "all other felonies." We're talking about rapists and child molesters. Stay on point.

"Bu bu bu bu but what about the wrongly convicted? " What about them when they were in prison? We should stop sending rapists and molesters to prison on the off chance they could be wrongly convicted? fukk outta here with these wah wah arguments.

And paying your debt to society extends far beyond jail time obviously. Sex offenders registry, loss of voting rights, etc. etc. And who cares, they are sexual predators. I can't believe you all are arguing these pieces of shyt shouldn't be marked and branded with signs in their yards. Anyone arguing for any sorts of rights for a convicted rapist or child molester has something wrong with them, seriously.

and at the bolded i wouldn't surprised if some of these dudes in here actually agreed with that.

 

[Anothergirl]

MOST PREDATORS ARE SOCIALLY AWKWARD PEOPLE. FURTHER OSTRACIZING THEM FROM SOCIETY AFTER THEIR SENTENCE IS NOT PRODUCTIVE IN TRYING TO REHABILITATE THEM. REHABILITATION IS THE GOAL INITIALLY. IF REHABILITATION IS NOT POSSIBLE THEN SOCIETY IS NOT WHERE THIS PERSON BELONGS. HE/SHE BELONGS BEHIND BARS AT THAT POINT.

this is correct and i agree with it. unfortunatley the criminal justice system is broken and they usually end up serving light sentences (under 10 years) and being unleashed back onto society.

 

[AAKing23]

I don't agree with this, not really because they don't deserve it but because if the goal of jail is to rehabilitate ex cons into being better citizens then this will not help


They will forever feel inadequate when they have to stare at their past faults and will be frequenty pre-judged by people who see the sign which will embarrass them and isolate them from society. Which will further increase their chances of delving back into the same demonic activities that got themselves in this situation in the 1st place.


And what about the people who were falsely accused of rape and child molestation this will be torturous to have something over their head that they didn't even do.




I don't see how shoving someone's crime in the face of everyone is going to help this convict become a better person.

 

[Brofato]

raping/molesting a little boy and turning him gay/ruining his life is = to murdering him in a lot of peoples minds..mine included. just because you think it's a "no big deal" kinda crime that deserve a light sentence doesn't mean eveyone else (including the victims) should feel that way.

Molestation isn't a cause of homosexuality. That could be easily disproved by finding any heterosexual abuse victim. I wanted to say I stopped reading there but I didn't because I agree with the last part of your post.

1. Molestation doesn't always and solely "turn kids gay" and even if it does, that has no bearing on what the punishment of the crime should be.

2. Comparing the LOSS OF LIFE to a TEMPORARY DISCOMFORT is why you don't understand why you can't just throw years at people AND STILL paint scarlet A's on them after they serve their time.

Thats why they call it a PRISON SENTENCE.

Its not disrespect to victims to ask offenders to serve their time fully and to move on after that.

Rape sucks, but if you'd rather be murdered you should just say so.

You seem to think they're the same thing.

Dude, everything you said upppp until "temporary discomfort" I was with you on. That has to be the poorest choice of words I have ever seen to describe these disgusting acts. They are most certainly equated with murder. Both have long lasting effects that play on the victims and their families. And did you just say that victims of rape and child molestation should be asked to be murdered by their attacker/abuser? There's just no defending that post. At all.

If it makes you feel any better, lots of victims of rape do wish that their life had ended that night or nights in the cases of victims who have been raped multiple times.

Those sex offender lists come in handy as a parent. These mfs had my daughters school bus stop in front of a registered sexual offenders house. They had to move the bus stop after I called the school. I walked my daughter to the bus stop one morning and he was just standing in his door just watch mf. That's some scary shyt. But at least they list what they was convicted of and the age of the victim. It's a necessary evil.

I wouldn't call it a necessary evil but necessary nonetheless. Seeing how many crimes are committed in my zip code alone is enough to make me want to watch everyone at every single moment.

With that said, it doesn't take much to actually get on to the sexual offender registry. Such things as taking a piss near a playground. In the case of one teacher, having porn popup on one of your computers and not knowing how to shut it off. Having an actual list that details the crime of the offenders would be great.


And now to sum up this long ass post and make it even longer, I think the sentences served in these instances should definitely be longer. But that'll bring us all the way to a whole societal reform. Rethinking the way we were taught to think about these crimes. Rethinking the way we teach our children how to think of these crimes. Having the victims of these crimes actually speak up without fear and in a quick manner in a society where they would have no fear of reproach or shame. Leading to without a doubt convictions where evidence was collected in a timely manner and presented properly to a jury of unbiased peers. But that's only a hope.

 

[MR. SNIFLES]

this is correct and i agree with it. unfortunatley the criminal justice system is broken and they usually end up serving light sentences (under 10 years) and being unleashed back onto society.

THIS IS NOT THE FAULT OF THE PAROLEE. THE SIGN DOES NOTHING TO PROTECT ANYONE. EVERYONE WHO NEEDS TO KNOW OF HIS PRESENCE ALREADY KNOWS. THESE SIGNS ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN SCARLET LETTERS. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THE PREDATORS CAN LEAVE THEIR LETTERS AT HOME.

EARLIER YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE PSYCHOLOGY OF THIS. WELL THINK ABOUT THIS.

SCENARIO:
YOU'RE A CONVICTED SEXUAL PREDATOR TRYING TO CHANGE AFTER YOUR SENTENCE. YOU CAN'T FIND A JOB. YOU SPEND MOST OF YOUR DAY GOING OUT TO JOB INTERVIEW AFTER INTERVIEW AND BEING DENIED ON A DAILY BASIS. THEN YOU HAVE TO COME HOME AND THE FIRST THING YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IS A BIG RED SIGN OUTSIDE YOUR HOUSE REMINDING YOU THAT YOU ARE A SEXUAL PREDATOR. EVERY TIME YOU COME HOME. EVERY TIME YOU CUT YOUR GRASS. HOW WELL DO YOU THINK THAT WORKS OUT FOR THE EX CON?

 

[concise]

You're using a slippery slope illogical fallacy. We aren't talking about "all other felonies." We're talking about rapists and child molesters. Stay on point.

"Bu bu bu bu but what about the wrongly convicted? " What about them when they were in prison? We should stop sending rapists and molesters to prison on the off chance they could be wrongly convicted? fukk outta here with these wah wah arguments.

And paying your debt to society extends far beyond jail time obviously. Sex offenders registry, loss of voting rights, etc. etc. And who cares, they are sexual predators. I can't believe you all are arguing these pieces of shyt shouldn't be marked and branded with signs in their yards. Anyone arguing for any sorts of rights for a convicted rapist or child molester has something wrong with them, seriously.

We have super felonies now? Or do we just have felonies and misdemeanors?

Not prosecute rapes? You fukking kidding me? Where was any of that implied? The appeals system, like I already mentioned, is what takes care of potential wrongful convictions.

Once again, if they've done their time, they've done their time.
If it's a problem, you increase jail time, not brand people.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Yeah, you are definitely a pedo.

White collar criminals, muthafukka what? People are born with a predisposition to do ponzi schemes? This nikka is really trying to compare white collar criminal to a pedophile, I'm done

You're labeling them in society AFTER they serve a crime.

What don't you understand.

Why aren't we painting Red letters on people for other crimes?

 

[beenz]

man, its gotta suck for the cat who's like 18 in high school as a senior and gets caught up for fukking his 16 year old high school jr girlfriend.

 

[concise]

this is correct and i agree with it. unfortunatley the criminal justice system is broken and they usually end up serving light sentences (under 10 years) and being unleashed back onto society.

So then... wouldn't the proper thing be to ....


up the jail sentences?

 

[Anothergirl]

Molestation isn't a cause of homosexuality. That could be easily disproved by finding any heterosexual abuse victim. I wanted to say I stopped reading there but I didn't because I agree with the last part of your post.

i don't think it's the ONLY cause of homosexuality(i believe most are genuinely born that way) but to think sexual abuse esp in little boys doesn't cause sexual confusion and sexual indentity issues in MANY cases later on down the line is a bit naive.

Dude, everything you said upppp until "temporary discomfort" I was with you on. That has to be the poorest choice of words I have ever seen to describe these disgusting acts. They are most certainly equated with murder. Both have long lasting effects that play on the victims and their families. And did you just say that victims of rape and child molestation should be asked to be murdered by their attacker/abuser? There's just no defending that post. At all.

If it makes you feel any better, lots of victims of rape do wish that their life had ended that night or nights in the cases of victims who have been raped multiple times.

very well said. not to mention the ones that end up addicted to various subtances and or/commit suicide years later. nothing "temporary" about it.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Dude, everything you said upppp until "temporary discomfort" I was with you on. That has to be the poorest choice of words I have ever seen to describe these disgusting acts. They are most certainly equated with murder. Both have long lasting effects that play on the victims and their families. And did you just say that victims of rape and child molestation should be asked to be murdered by their attacker/abuser? There's just no defending that post. At all.

If it makes you feel any better, lots of victims of rape do wish that their life had ended that night or nights in the cases of victims who have been raped multiple times.

Look. I'm making a point that rape is NOT murder and if you think it is, lets give you the option of picking which one you'd rather have happen to you.

Rape sucks. Its demoralizing and embarrassing. It also leaves lasting emotional baggage.

I get that.

But what I DO also get is that its not permanent.

It ends.

And as such, its not like murder. Even further, it could NEVER be like murder.

Ever.

One of those parties doesn't get to come back to the table.

The rape crowd has really twisted this into an attempt to make their cause seem more special than every other crime out there.

Rape is just as much of a crime as anything else.

The penalties are different, but rules are rules.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

i don't think it's the ONLY cause of homosexuality(i believe most are genuinely born that way) but to think sexual abuse esp in little boys doesn't cause sexual confusion and sexual indentity issues in MANY cases later on down the line is a bit naive.



very well said. not to mention the ones that end of addicted to various subtances and or/commit suicide years later. nothing "temporary" about it.

Wait.

So rape is now the cause of you adopting a drug habit or how you cope with that trauma?

This is ridiculous.

Is being jumped or hit with a car also responsible for you developing a pyromaniac attitude or being addicted to crack?

The road to emotional recovery is hard enough without you aiming for low hanging fruit out here.

See, this is why you all are simultaneously hurting your cause.

Rape isn't similar to murder in ANY case.

I don't wish it on anyone, but ya'll gotta stop making it more than what it is.

The penalty for rape, and ANY other crime shouldn't extend beyond that which you've served in the eyes of the law. Even in most states you regain full rights after probation including voting rights etc.