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Exactly what I thought.

Thank you good sir.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

the scripture of he is talking about is being taking out of context.. don't speak it unless you know it

All scripture is interpretation. We've been arguing about context and truth for centuries.

He's not saying the passages were wrongly used. He's saying that whoever wrote the passages should've understood how those words would be manipulated against others. Its akin to the argument against Islam being a religion of peace (very different from a peaceful religion).

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Again, I've already conceded that he admits the deity exist. What I'm asking for the sake of ending the argument, is how is he defining the word exist. I'm also asking how is he defining the word intervene.

If his answer is simply, "I don't know, I just feel thats what happens," you cannot claim dogma. On this page at least, he has not ascribed anything because he hasn't actually said anything of philosophical value. He has one foot in the doorway, but you keep closing it. You should let others speak first before you shut down their opinions. Talk to understand, not to make a point.

I can claim dogma the moment he adopts a belief without evidence. Thats dogmatic.

he's already admitted to doing so, now the point is to get him to realize it.

Believing in a deity in lieu of the admitted lack of evidence IS dogmatism in its purest form.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

How could I steal from other religion when my belief is based on us creating.

You keep using this word "belief" as if that exonerates your carelessness with the lexicon and established philosophical and sociological understandings of dogma and how religious thinking works.

Your belief IS ROOTED in a concept based on your experience with other religions.

Your description of a higher power is not the same as at least 1/3 of the world, yet you ignore this point.

You are dogmatic.

Your beliefs derive from a religious construct that you abstracted and dropped the name from.

Dude I just believe that a higher power exists and that it may intervene with the universe. As for how it intervenes with the universe and what the higher power is I don't know. My belief is that a higher power exists and intervenes with the world. That's it. The rest is a "I don't know"

If you believe it, you've adopted the notion...a notion YOU HAVE ADMITTED you have no proof for.

Thats dogma IN AND OF ITSELF.

Anthropologically. Philosophically. Sociologically.

Dog. Ma.

Dogma.

Get over it.

1. This deity exists (this is a statement to the presence of your deity)

2. This deity interacts with the world (a statement to the ability and actions of this deity)

You don't get off the hook because you "don't know the rest"

You've done ENOUGH by making all these unsubstantiated assertions.

Like I said before. If you want to be honest, you would say "I am not sure if a god exists and I'm not sure if this god intervenes with the universe

YET...

...YOU...

"BELIEVE"

Too late.

You've already committed to the idea of something you admit you have no evidence for.

The time to commit to an idea is when there is means to back it up...not before that.

So not I'm not dogmatic because as I've shown I don't match the definition.

Websters Dictionary won't save you.

Yes we are supposed to rely on a dictionary when it comes to pinning labels on someone.

Too bad you don't use the proper context or the academic understanding of dogma in societies.

I know you want to pin a label on me badly but I don't match the defintion based on the dictionary on which the words are defined clear as day.

Which is ironic since you jacked religious principles from abrahamic faiths yet claimed you originated the ideas yourself.

Nobody is above using the dictionary definition of a word not even you.

A dictionary isn't a trump card. Its a tool.

Language is flexible and dictionaries serve as a reference, not an absolute standard.

I say that to say, that this is really ironic coming from you since you ignore the implications of your voluntary association to your flavor of religion (which is what it is) since you don't like the labels of the prevailing religions.

You're a philosophical coward.

I can't explain how the higher power may intervene with the universe because I just believe that it does and that's it.

Thats a pretty shytty reason to believe much of anything.

"I believe this and I don't know why"

Then do you believe it, dummy?

My belief stops there until more facts come in.

Your belief shouldn't START before facts come in jackass. Thats the entire fukking point.

 

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You keep using this word "belief" as if that exonerates your carelessness with the lexicon and established philosophical and sociological understandings of dogma and how religious thinking works.

Your belief IS ROOTED in a concept based on your experience with other religions.

Your description of a higher power is not the same as at least 1/3 of the world, yet you ignore this point.

You are dogmatic.

Your beliefs derive from a religious construct that you abstracted and dropped the name from.

If you believe it, you've adopted the notion...a notion YOU HAVE ADMITTED you have no proof for.

Thats dogma IN AND OF ITSELF.

Anthropologically. Philosophically. Sociologically.

Dog. Ma.

Dogma.

Get over it.

1. This deity exists (this is a statement to the presence of your deity)

2. This deity interacts with the world (a statement to the ability and actions of this deity)

You don't get off the hook because you "don't know the rest"

You've done ENOUGH by making all these unsubstantiated assertions.

Like I said before. If you want to be honest, you would say "I am not sure if a god exists and I'm not sure if this god intervenes with the universe

YET...

...YOU...

"BELIEVE"

Too late.

You've already committed to the idea of something you admit you have no evidence for.

The time to commit to an idea is when there is means to back it up...not before that.

Websters Dictionary won't save you.

Too bad you don't use the proper context or the academic understanding of dogma in societies.

Which is ironic since you jacked religious principles from abrahamic faiths yet claimed you originated the ideas yourself.

A dictionary isn't a trump card. Its a tool.

Language is flexible and dictionaries serve as a reference, not an absolute standard.

I say that to say, that this is really ironic coming from you since you ignore the implications of your voluntary association to your flavor of religion (which is what it is) since you don't like the labels of the prevailing religions.

You're a philosophical coward.
Thats a pretty shytty reason to believe much of anything.

"I believe this and I don't know why"

Then do you believe it, dummy?

Your belief shouldn't START before facts come in jackass. Thats the entire fukking point.

My belief isn't rooted in relgion or else I'd be religious.

Us creating something has no religious/supernatural/spiritual connection at all.

That's is the base of my whole belief.

If we can evolve and eventually create who's to say that it can't happen in other areas.

Then we got the simulation theory as well.

I have no belief in the supernatural or spiritual or anything of the sort so it makes me even less likely to be religious.

I just have a belief as a placeholder for an area that science can't explain.

Your here telling me that I'm dogmatic yet based on the dictionary im not. Your also telling me that dictionaries aren't reliable like your made up definitions are supposed to be used instead.

If you can't see how that makes you delusional then I don't know what to tell you.

Beliefs appear because of the lack of facts dumbass. If science can't explain it the belief will naturally occupy until then. Its as natural as breathing.

If someone is stuck on a island and they see a figure of something far off then they will naturally guess as to what it is until they find out the truth.

Simple shyt.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

My belief isn't rooted in relgion or else I'd be religious.

Yet you believe in a monotheistic god who intervenes in the universe.

That eliminates about 1/3 of the gods people believe in on this planet.

You're not unique.

Us creating something has no religious/supernatural/spiritual connection at all.

So why give it that function?

That's is the base of my whole belief.

....for which you admitted you had no evidence for...yet you submit to the belief.

If we can evolve and eventually create who's to say that it can't happen in other areas.

Very poorly reasoned for two reasons:

1.

2.

Thats like saying, "If we can evolve, whats to say elephants can't jump over the moon?"

What the fukk does evolution have to do with what your deity does?

Then we got the simulation theory as well.

So? Its a theory. Its unsubstantiated and untested.

This surely can't be reasonable evidence you're using to defend yourself.

I have no belief in the supernatural or spiritual or anything of the sort

fallacy on your behalf again:

Why are you using the terms "higher power" KNOWING FULL-AND-MOTHER-fukkING-WELL that implies deity...and you've already admited that you believe this thing interacts with the universe like very other deity you've known...yet you're special.

You're just flat out lying right now.

Disgusting.

so it makes me even less likely to be religious.

It makes you more likely to be a liar.

You've already done this in this sentence alone:

You're just contradicting yourself now.

I just have a belief as a placeholder for an area that science can't explain.

Thats pretty fukking stupid.

Not having an answer for something just means you DONT HAVE AN ANSWER.

You don't get to use shyt as a placeholder. Thats what inquiry is for.

Otherwise, there'd be no point to looking for anything new or learning anything since you've already got a cure all for that gap.

What are you going to do when/if science (or some other investigative process) explains what you're holding out on?

Move the goalposts even more??????

Your here telling me that I'm dogmatic yet based on the dictionary im not.

because you're not paying attention to academic understanding of what dogma is (which i've shown you) and sociological and even philosophical distinctions of dogma.

Yet you think MW saves your sorry ass.

Try again.

You're dogmatic as hell.

Your also telling me that dictionaries aren't reliable like your made up definitions are supposed to be used instead.

I'd love to know what I "made up"...

Wait...is that like how you made up your own religion?

If you can't see how that makes you delusional then I don't know what to tell you.

Yet you believe in something you can't explain so you'd rather throw "god" in there instead of actually figuring shyt out. Seems like a great fukking idea.

You're an embarrassment to critical thinking.

Beliefs appear because of the lack of facts dumbass.

Beliefs are things you accept based on whatever standard of evidence you're willing to accept.

You've chosen to both admit you have NO evidence for your beliefs and still accept them.

You have low standards for proof and validation of things you voluntarily align yourself with.

If science can't explain it the belief will naturally occupy until then.

No.

There is no point in taking a stance on something you can't confirm one way or the other.

if you don't know something, then you don't get to fill in the gap with shyt you made up because it makes you feel better. that gets you no closer to the truth.

Its as natural as breathing.

Spoken like a true pseudo-intellectual...

If someone is stuck on a island and they see a figure of something far off then they will naturally guess as to what it is until they find out the truth.

Doesn't mean guessing is useful.

Guessing is just that.

A guess.

You're not guessing though.

You've gone beyond that and decided to accept shyt on the lack of evidence and bask in your ignorance as some sort of badge of honor.

Simple shyt.

It seems the more simple the argument, the more you fukk it up.

 

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Yet you believe in a monotheistic god who intervenes in the universe.

That eliminates about 1/3 of the gods people believe in on this planet.

You're not unique.

So why give it that function?
....for which you admitted you had no evidence for...yet you submit to the belief.

Very poorly reasoned for two reasons:

1.

2.

Thats like saying, "If we can evolve, whats to say elephants can't jump over the moon?"

What the fukk does evolution have to do with what your deity does?

So? Its a theory. Its unsubstantiated and untested.

This surely can't be reasonable evidence you're using to defend yourself.

fallacy on your behalf again:

Why are you using the terms "higher power" KNOWING FULL-AND-MOTHER-fukkING-WELL that implies deity...and you've already admited that you believe this thing interacts with the universe like very other deity you've known...yet you're special.

You're just flat out lying right now.

Disgusting.

It makes you more likely to be a liar.

You've already done this in this sentence alone:

You're just contradicting yourself now.

Thats pretty fukking stupid.

Not having an answer for something just means you DONT HAVE AN ANSWER.

You don't get to use shyt as a placeholder. Thats what inquiry is for.

Otherwise, there'd be no point to looking for anything new or learning anything since you've already got a cure all for that gap.

What are you going to do when/if science (or some other investigative process) explains what you're holding out on?

Move the goalposts even more??????
because you're not paying attention to academic understanding of what dogma is (which i've shown you) and sociological and even philosophical distinctions of dogma.

Yet you think MW saves your sorry ass.

Try again.

You're dogmatic as hell.

I'd love to know what I "made up"...

Wait...is that like how you made up your own religion?

Yet you believe in something you can't explain so you'd rather throw "god" in there instead of actually figuring shyt out. Seems like a great fukking idea.

You're an embarrassment to critical thinking.
Beliefs are things you accept based on whatever standard of evidence you're willing to accept.

You've chosen to both admit you have NO evidence for your beliefs and still accept them.

You have low standards for proof and validation of things you voluntarily align yourself with.

No.

There is no point in taking a stance on something you can't confirm one way or the other.

if you don't know something, then you don't get to fill in the gap with shyt you made up because it makes you feel better. that gets you no closer to the truth.

Spoken like a true pseudo-intellectual...

Doesn't mean guessing is useful.

Guessing is just that.

A guess.

You're not guessing though.

You've gone beyond that and decided to accept shyt on the lack of evidence and bask in your ignorance as some sort of badge of honor.

It seems the more simple the argument, the more you fukk it up.

I have that belief and give the higher power that function in my belief because if we could eventually be in that same position, I could see us becoming like higher powers to other species that way and base my guess on that.

If we ever created a species via technology or even created a simulation then we would be considered a higher power/diety to them and that's what my guess is based on.

Second of all I'm not asserting anything as true/fact as I've said multiple times I am just stating my belief or in other words a possibility that is considered my guess so take those fallacy claims and shove it up your ass.

What I wonder is to where I ever said that I was "special" since I've noticed that you've put words in my mouth claiming that I think Im "special" yet I've said nothing of the sort.

I've said my differences to the religious and I've said why I'm not religious but I never said that I'm "special."

Now you can try to twist and turn words but in the end they have a dictionary set defintion and while you can say that I have a dogma you still can't say that I'm dogmatic because dictionary wise you are wrong.

I am not claiming that guesses get us closer to the truth neither am I claiming that guesses are useful so cut the crap.

Yes I'm just making a guess by picking a possibility as a guess. No more no less. No matter how much you try to hype it up to look otherwise.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

I also like when Internet-atheists 'cherry-pick' verses since if you actually read them in-context, their arguments fall apart.

For instance, he used this:

Ephesians 6:5 (KJV)

Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ;

.....but 4 verses later, we find this.......

Ephesians 6:9 (KJV)

And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him.


He also used 1 Timothy, but neglected to understand that Paul (the supposed author) wasn't condoning slavery, but giving commands to those who were already slaves or masters to view one another as equals rather than superior/subservient.

So, basically, atheists are calling-out those Christians for not following Scripture which is the opposite of this fellow's intent.

LOL.

Theological Noncognitivism FTW.​

 

[Lavish]

this racist cac is an idiot.

Ive always wondered why athiests are always so angry

I dont go to church...but I do believe in god and I believe certain things in the bible. now keep in mind..im tatted, I fukk bytches, I curse..I drink etc...so by no means do I follow religion to the T...but what I dont understand why you athiests take so much pride in discussing this topic over and over?...if you dont want to believe in god...GOOD FOR YOU. who gives a fukk ...I never try to impose my beliefs on anyone...why? because I really dont give a fukk what you believe or dont believe

you guys need to find peace because evidently something is missing

 

[observe]

Not to ruin your thread but someone posted this vid a while back. I can't remember if it was in the locker room or higher learning.

Probably higher learning because no one looks in there.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I have that belief and give the higher power that function in my belief because if we could eventually be in that same position, I could see us becoming like higher powers to other species that way and base my guess on that.

You have no evidence to support this so you shouldn't commit to believing it it.

If we ever created a species via technology or even created a simulation then we would be considered a higher power/diety to them and that's what my guess is based on.

You created a definition of "higher power" and then skated off to equate that to being a deity over what you create.

That doesn't make any sense without defining what a deity is and you're just playing fast and loose with the language.

Second of all I'm not asserting anything as true/fact as I've said multiple times

You are when you say, "This is what I believe..."

You've gone beyond guessing and speculation.

You've adopted your beliefs on limited evidence...well frankly as you admit...NO evidence.


Thats not rational.

I am just stating my belief or in other words a possibility that is considered my guess so take those fallacy claims and shove it up your ass.

If its a possibility, then say "I don't know"

Stop saying you "believe it"

You don't test beliefs.

You already have committed to it. Thats why its a belief.

What I wonder is to where I ever said that I was "special" since I've noticed that you've put words in my mouth claiming that I think Im "special" yet I've said nothing of the sort.

You think you're SO fukking cool and different when all you did was steal some vague monotheistic religious claims, stole a popular idea of god, then rebranded it into your own version of a religion and acted like you made the idea up...yet you enact the god of the gaps fallacy to cover your ass in lieu of things you can't explain.

Thats the epitome of moving the goal posts.

I've said my differences to the religious and I've said why I'm not religious but I never said that I'm "special."

Just because you "said" something doesn't make it so.

You're religious.

You created your religious concept and believe in it.

You're not willing to test it and you've admitted to having no evidence to prove it.

Thats the essence of being dogmatic.

Now you can try to twist and turn words but in the end they have a dictionary set defintion and while you can say that I have a dogma you still can't say that I'm dogmatic because dictionary wise you are wrong.

again with the dictionary bullshyt

I've given you academic proposals as to why you are IN FACT dogmatic and yet you keep walking around like Websters has your fukking back.

You're a mental midget in this department. You can't defend your belief so you'd MUCH rather roll the dice and hope no one picks up on this massive hole in your rhetorical armor.

Dawg, you're not even using the accepted definition of dogma.

I am not claiming that guesses get us closer to the truth neither am I claiming that guesses are useful so cut the crap.

No one cares.

Guesses are just that.

They are to be confirmed if true, and discarded if unproven.

Otherwise, there would be no point in hypothesizing about anything.

Again you're playing fast and loose with language.

Yes I'm just making a guess by picking a possibility as a guess.

Son, are you fukking stupid?

You just said you "aren't claiming" (which is a bullshyt way of saying you don't want to be responsible for what you're saying... which can't happen) that guesses get us closer to the truth...and yet, here you are making more guesses you want to be true.

Otherwise you wouldn't trot them out as not-to-distant possibilities.

No more no less. No matter how much you try to hype it up to look otherwise.

You're an idiot.

I await your reply where you run back to clinging the dictionary's nuts (which you use the wrong definition), where you keep pretending that you're different from other religious people even though you make religious assertions, and when you keep contradicting yourself, acting like you live in a place of doubt when in fact you have already adopted beliefs that aren't confirmed.

The time to believe things is AFTER you have evidence for believing them.

 

[Ohms Law]

I bet if he was addressing black FEMALE christians, this thread would have more replies but I digress

Seriously shut the fukk up with this shyt already

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

this racist cac is an idiot.

Ive always wondered why athiests are always so angry

I dont go to church...but I do believe in god and I believe certain things in the bible. now keep in mind..im tatted, I fukk bytches, I curse..I drink etc...so by no means do I follow religion to the T...but what I dont understand why you athiests take so much pride in discussing this topic over and over?...if you dont want to believe in god...GOOD FOR YOU. who gives a fukk ...I never try to impose my beliefs on anyone...why? because I really dont give a fukk what you believe or dont believe

you guys need to find peace because evidently something is missing

Yeah. Can you see the problem with that?

 

[Lana Kane]

Seriously shut the fukk up with this shyt already

too bad,
I will continue to point out the hypocrisy on this site.
You could've ignored this post like the rest of them but you didn't so you SHUT THE fukk UP and get the fukk out of here

Ps. you just joined a new club

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Evolution is the best friend theists ever came up with since it defeats naturalistic/materialistic atheism.

Too bad they don't use it.

Y'all have fun


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