Popular WHITE youtuber states that BLACK christians = uncle toms

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

My only belief is that a higher owner exists and that it may intervene in this universe. That's about it.

I never said it was more valid than any other possibility out there and I def did nit say that it was anything close to being a fact.

So no I'm not a deist and I'm not stealing anything because I doubt any religion looked to our ability to create like I have to based my belief on.

Why call yourself a theist if you claim to believe it then?

You either believe it or you don't.

Theres no gray area there.

That doesn't make you agnostic since gnosticism is what you know.

Theism is what you believe.

You're convinced by some preponderance of evidence that you're right...so...?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Yea I believe that but I still acknowledge that we don't know in the end.

None is enough to label me as dogmatic or religious so too bad.

Dogma.

 

[Will Ross]

The funny thing is Napoleon knows nothing about religion or Science.

 

[Blackout]

Why call yourself a theist if you claim to believe it then?

You either believe it or you don't.

Theres no gray area there.

That doesn't make you agnostic since gnosticism is what you know.

Theism is what you believe.

You're convinced by some preponderance of evidence that you're right...so...?

I'm a theist because I believe that a higher power exists and intervenes with the world. I say may because its a belief not a claim.

I'm an agnostic theist. I'm also non religious as well.

Dogma.

But not dogmatic or religious so too bad.

The fact that my belief isn't even authorative makes it even less likely to be dogmatic.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

The funny thing is Napoleon knows nothing about religion or Science.

Says the man who believes Jesus is on his way back...any day now...

You're not in my league.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I'm a theist because I believe that a higher power exists and intervenes with the world.

I say may because its a belief not a claim.

I'm an agnostic theist. I'm also non religious as well.

But not dogmatic or religious so too bad.

 

[Blackout]

If your so confused check the dictionary. Its clear as day there.

Look up all the terms that confuse you so much. My title agnostic theist should of given you an idea but I guess you are too slow to understand.

 

[the cac mamba]

Christianity is just African spiritualism so i doubt it. Uncle Tom'ing would be believing in Zeus, friends.

claim zeus is less credible than jesus, brehs

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

If your so confused check the dictionary. Its clear as day there.

Look up all the terms that confuse you so much. My title agnostic theist should of given you an idea but I guess you are too slow to understand.

You're a dumbass troll at the end of the day so we can leave it there.

Frankly.

You stole religious principles (notice that you clearly got the ones you took from a monotheistic, abrahamic origin/influence, that intervenes with the universe), reworded and misrepresent definitions you don't understand (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogma#In_religion), and continually evade responsibility for the sheer inconsistencies in your position WHICH YOU ADMIT you lack evidence for.

And yes. Your beliefs are what you claim/assert/put forth TO REPRESENT YOURSELF.

Don't say you "believe something" yet you're not asserting it. You're just being a jackass if you say otherwise at that point.

Just because most people don't think about this shyt doesn't mean it has to go over YOUR head too.

You're just as dogmatic as your friends who are more in line with popular religions. You just believe more abstract and vague aspects of it.

And you relying on the dictionary is the weakest argument you can have, KNOWING DAMN WELL that philosophically, you're no different from the bible thumping christian in that you're both in line with aspects of the same general concept of a deity...except you take it less seriously.

Too bad.

Its all or nothing with me.

To be a theist is to be dogmatic is to be religious. Its all the same. I pity those who let ya'll think ya'll were special because you dropped the label.

You're not.

You're just as pitiful and ass-backwards as your former christian brethren.

Its ok.

You can bask in the fact that while you seek to assert your implied superiority over those aligned with brand-name religious cults, you can pretend you're unique and special by worshipping your deity that seems to:

1. Exist

2. Interact with the world

3. do a whole other host of shyt you claim you don't want to put out there.

Yet...you're not "religious"

Go look in the mirror and realize you're not fooling anyone.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

If your so confused check the dictionary. Its clear as day there.

Look up all the terms that confuse you so much. My title agnostic theist should of given you an idea but I guess you are too slow to understand.

Can we just end this now? @Napoleon got a Meek Mills type of posting style....

Sheesh, the conversation started off wrong because you stated you were a non-religious theist. Napoleon ran with that for 2 pages before someone asked you if you were an agnostic theist. That is why napoleon said you're dogmatic. It took mad long for you to use the word agnostic. Even I looked at your first post confused cause I knew what you meant.

The second point napoleon is trying to use against you to show that you are in fact religious, is by saying that the way you feel your higher power intervenes, is in fact taken from a religious deity. Napoleon can't mention which one, because you yourself haven't mentioned it. So instead of him badgering you about being dogmatic, he needs to simply ask you in what ways do you feel a higher power uses their "power."

That is where the disconnect is between you guys.

If your answer is, "I just do." Then y'all should shake hands on move on.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Can we just end this now? @Napoleon got a Meek Mills type of posting style....

Sheesh, the conversation started off wrong because you stated you were a non-religious theist. Napoleon ran with that for 2 pages before someone asked you if you were an agnostic theist. That is why napoleon said you're dogmatic. It took mad long for you to use the word agnostic. Even I looked at your first post confused cause I knew what you meant.

The second point napoleon is trying to use against you to show that you are in fact religious, is by saying that the way you feel your higher power intervenes, is in fact taken from a religious deity. Napoleon can't mention which one, because you yourself haven't mentioned it. So instead of him badgering you about being dogmatic, he needs to simply ask you in what ways do you feel a higher power uses their "power."

That is where the disconnect is between you guys.

If your answer is, "I just do." Then y'all should shake hands on move on.

I don't even have to do that.

By ASCRIBING ATTRIBUTES AND CHARACTERISTICS to this "higher power," he's talking about how and what this deity of his does.

Its sheer dogma.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

I don't even have to do that.

By ASCRIBING ATTRIBUTES AND CHARACTERISTICS to this "higher power," he's talking about how and what this deity of his does.

Its sheer dogma.

Again, I've already conceded that he admits the deity exist. What I'm asking for the sake of ending the argument, is how is he defining the word exist. I'm also asking how is he defining the word intervene.

If his answer is simply, "I don't know, I just feel thats what happens," you cannot claim dogma. On this page at least, he has not ascribed anything because he hasn't actually said anything of philosophical value. He has one foot in the doorway, but you keep closing it. You should let others speak first before you shut down their opinions. Talk to understand, not to make a point.

 

[Blackout]

You're a dumbass troll at the end of the day so we can leave it there.

Frankly.

You stole religious principles (notice that you clearly got the ones you took from a monotheistic, abrahamic origin/influence, that intervenes with the universe), reworded and misrepresent definitions you don't understand (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogma#In_religion), and continually evade responsibility for the sheer inconsistencies in your position WHICH YOU ADMIT you lack evidence for.

And yes. Your beliefs are what you claim/assert/put forth TO REPRESENT YOURSELF.

Don't say you "believe something" yet you're not asserting it. You're just being a jackass if you say otherwise at that point.

Just because most people don't think about this shyt doesn't mean it has to go over YOUR head too.

You're just as dogmatic as your friends who are more in line with popular religions. You just believe more abstract and vague aspects of it.

And you relying on the dictionary is the weakest argument you can have, KNOWING DAMN WELL that philosophically, you're no different from the bible thumping christian in that you're both in line with aspects of the same general concept of a deity...except you take it less seriously.

Too bad.

Its all or nothing with me.

To be a theist is to be dogmatic is to be religious. Its all the same. I pity those who let ya'll think ya'll were special because you dropped the label.

You're not.

You're just as pitiful and ass-backwards as your former christian brethren.

Its ok.

You can bask in the fact that while you seek to assert your implied superiority over those aligned with brand-name religious cults, you can pretend you're unique and special by worshipping your deity that seems to:

1. Exist

2. Interact with the world

3. do a whole other host of shyt you claim you don't want to put out there.

Yet...you're not "religious"

Go look in the mirror and realize you're not fooling anyone.

How could I steal from other religion when my belief is based on us creating.

Dude I just believe that a higher power exists and that it may intervene with the universe. As for how it intervenes with the universe and what the higher power is I don't know. My belief is that a higher power exists and intervenes with the world. That's it. The rest is a "I don't know"

So not I'm not dogmatic because as I've shown I don't match the definition.

Yes we are supposed to rely on a dictionary when it comes to pinning labels on someone.

I know you want to pin a label on me badly but I don't match the defintion based on the dictionary on which the words are defined clear as day.

Nobody is above using the dictionary definition of a word not even you.

Can we just end this now? @Napoleon got a Meek Mills type of posting style....

Sheesh, the conversation started off wrong because you stated you were a non-religious theist. Napoleon ran with that for 2 pages before someone asked you if you were an agnostic theist. That is why napoleon said you're dogmatic. It took mad long for you to use the word agnostic. Even I looked at your first post confused cause I knew what you meant.

The second point napoleon is trying to use against you to show that you are in fact religious, is by saying that the way you feel your higher power intervenes, is in fact taken from a religious deity. Napoleon can't mention which one, because you yourself haven't mentioned it. So instead of him badgering you about being dogmatic, he needs to simply ask you in what ways do you feel a higher power uses their "power."

That is where the disconnect is between you guys.

If your answer is, "I just do." Then y'all should shake hands on move on.

I can't explain how the higher power may intervene with the universe because I just believe that it does and that's it.

My belief stops there until more facts come in.

 

[Obsession]

the scripture of he is talking about is being taking out of context.. don't speak it unless you know it

 

[tru_m.a.c]

I can't explain how the higher power may intervene with the universe because I just believe that it does and that's it.

My belief stops there until more facts come in.

Exactly what I thought.

Thank you good sir.