Poor Sam Bradford......Schotty

[Maschine_Man]

Not all Qbs are allowed to call audibles.

Either way, I'm glad you decided to move away from Schotty and engage in this discussion you jumped in with some of us and Trip.

It shows how flawed your "it starts with the qb" mentality.

No...it doesn't. So many plays fail or succeed due to parts other than the QB.

dude what the fukk is your problem??
when did I NOT agree with the bolded?

are you seriously just here to argue for the sake of arguing??


if you don't think the QB has the most responsibility on the offense then I'm done with you

done with trying to argue this point with you

 

[Maschine_Man]

Tannehill does it cause they allow him to,


I can respect what you're saying if you stop making outlandish unfounded statement.

Joe Flacco is a good example of a QB that had his hands tied until this year

I don't understand what outlandish comment I made

I already proved that the jets Oline was full of pro bowlers.

and yes the offense does start with the QB

not to outlandish

go back and read what "I"said not what reb thinks I said

its all here, just go back and read it

Reb has a tendency to twist ppl's words around

trust me, go back and re read my posts from the beginning of this argument

 

[NYC Rebel]

I don't understand what outlandish comment I made

I already proved that the jets Oline was full of pro bowlers.

and yes the offense does start with the QB

not to outlandish

go back and read what "I"said not what reb thinks I said

its all here, just go back and read it

Reb has a tendency to twist ppl's words around

trust me, go back and re read my posts from the beginning of this argument

I didn't twist anything.

I was talking to Trip (NOT YOU) about the fallacy of his belief that it all starts with the QB, calling it lazy.

You countered with "yes it does. and its only lazy when its convenient for you"

I broke down a play how an error doesn't always start with a QB and can be from other players on the field. Then you went all postal on some bs and now are spewing random bs everyone can tear apart logically and see through.

I didn't twist anything. It doesn't all start with the QB. That's a retarded extremist position.

 

[Maschine_Man]

Actually I started the QB talk
with this

Same QB=Same Problem


the problem is more the QB they have put the faith in then the OC IMO

then later I said

how about scoring points though??

I mean you can blame everyone else all you want but if you can't even score a fg in a football game then something is wrong
and that has to start at the QB

I didn't say always, YOU were the one that started with the always shyt

It doesn't always "start with the qb"

That's extremely lazy.

But I came back with

yes it does

and its only lazy when its convenient for you

Because yes, it does START with the QB, always. Because he is the only player that is on the field for 100% of every offensive snap, he has the most responsibility, and has to be the one to make the play happen.

then you started talking about individual plays like one or two plays makes up for the other 40-50 etc plays in the game

smh

then this was my reply, I even said that other players can be at fault for the errors. so don't pretned or twist what I've said to say otherwise

SMH, you know whats lazy? talking about individual plays as your reason that a player is not the problem

plays like that happen all the time to every QB, it was a bad play by the offense and the receiver, and alot of times a qb(of any team) will thrown an INT and it really won't even be there fault. I accept that as I'm sure most real football fans that watch the games do.

but this isn't about one or two plays, this is over a full game or games
even seasons

you can't tell me that Sanchez has been playing at anything over a mediocre level EVER during his career

shhiiiieeett, you stay twisting things around. Hopefully now ppl can see this post and stop reading reb's twisted words of my posts and just read them themselves

 

[Maschine_Man]

I NEVER once said that the QB is at fault for everything on the offense

I NEVER once said that the QB is the one that calls the plays (or has to)

lets just get that out there


and if ANY of you have any integrity you'd see that and agree

 

[NYC Rebel]

Actually I started the QB talk
with this



then later I said



I didn't say always, YOU were the one that started with the always shyt



But I came back with


Because yes, it does START with the QB, always. Because he is the only player that is on the field for 100% of every offensive snap, he has the most responsibility, and has to be the one to make the play happen.

then you started talking about individual plays like one or two plays makes up for the other 40-50 etc plays in the game

smh

then this was my reply, I even said that other players can be at fault for the errors. so don't pretned or twist what I've said to say otherwise






shhiiiieeett, you stay twisting things around. Hopefully now ppl can see this post and stop reading reb's twisted words of my posts and just read them themselves

Dog...you were responding to me talking to Trip. You posted all of that for nothing.

It doesn't all start with the QB when plays have or don't have success.

 

[Maschine_Man]

Dog...you were responding to me talking to Trip. You posted all of that for nothing.

It doesn't all start with the QB when ..........

you can just stop there, you don't need to qualify your statement with a when....something happens blu blah blah. might as well just say BUT......

 

[Maschine_Man]

Bradford didn't look great yesterday
7 completions? terrible
but a win is a win I guess

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

Bradford didn't look great yesterday
7 completions? terrible
but a win is a win I guess

Once Amendola went out, that was a different game.

Still Bradford picked up the W against a tough opponent, mostly cause of that D but still things looks better in STL than than they do in NYJ

 

[NYC Rebel]

Once Amendola went out, that was a different game.

Still Bradford picked up the W against a tough opponent, mostly cause of that D but still things looks better in STL than than they do in NYJ

I never thought Sanchez picked up W's when the Jets were winning in the playoffs. It was that carried him. Same with Bradford last night.

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

I never thought Sanchez picked up W's when the Jets were winning in the playoffs. It was that carried him. Same with Bradford last night.

Oh the D definitely carried Bradford 100%.

But he did make that huge throw on 3rd and 11 for the TD.

Aside from that he was pretty bad last night, he missed Amendola.

 

[NYC Rebel]

Oh the D definitely carried Bradford 100%.

But he did make that huge throw on 3rd and 11 for the TD.

Aside from that he was pretty bad last night, he missed Amendola.

He missed some open throws. The Cardinals D will make you do that, though.

I'm loving those NFC West defenses....

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

He missed some open throws. The Cardinals D will make you do that, though.

I really think the Cardinals D wasn't that impressive. I think he just has zero chemistry with almost everyone outside of Amendola. Almost all those dudes are either rooks or 2nd year guys

Long & Quinn were absolute beasts that game, that Zona line is so fukking bad too. I can see them nose-diving and ending up 7-9

Upcoming

Buffalo
@Minnesota
SF
@GB
@Atlanta
St. Lous
@NYJ
@Seattle
Detroit
Chicago
@SF

There might be 4 wins left in there. MIGHT

 

[Rev]

Amendola's always gonna be hurt...lil' guy throwing himself around on turf like that 24/7.

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

Once Amendola went out, that was a different game.

Still Bradford picked up the W against a tough opponent, mostly cause of that D but still things looks better in STL than than they do in NYJ

He looked bad after that first drive even before Amendola went out.