Playing the Joker is easy money and Leto managed to be the only one to fukk it up

[CouldntBeMeTho]

I like my joker with face tats and tattoos and shyt.. y'all tripping, his take was a dope modern update

 

[NinoBrown]

I like my joker with face tats and tattoos and shyt.. y'all tripping, his take was a dope modern update

Naw...Joker doesn't look like a Post Malone reject who hasn't taken a bath in 10 years.

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

Naw...Joker doesn't look like a Post Malone reject who hasn't taken a bath in 10 years.

Tell me post Malone don't look like he'd be a joker goon from Gotham

 

[Lhark]

To be fair they didn't give him enough time, DCU pretty much crashed and burned.

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

Look when I saw this trailer I couldn't have been the only one to think this was gonna be a David Ayer "gritty cop/crime drama" but set in Gotham. Watch this trailer again and then explain to me what the fukk happened... Ayer says the movie is "his vision" tho.. it don't make sense.

He walked back those comments, seems like hes trying to make #releasetheayercut happen. I'm all for it I'd actually like to see more of letos joker and it seems like its the edgelord thing to do to give him all that shyt. Leto Is a competent actor and he said hands down it was his favorite project he ever worked on.

Just compare that "Really really bad" scene compared to what we actually got in the movie.


Comic con trailer

Bottom one is way more sinister and a better performance. Movie seemed like they chose his most try hard version of.

Editing really fukked this guy as well

 

[ThirdAct]

Y’all continuously dismiss the shytty ass script that was given to him. Ain’t like the nikka woke up and said this is what he wanted. He worked with what they gave him and honestly did the most he could

Will and Margot were good in the movie and they had the same shytty script Leto did.

 

[Art Barr]

Will and Margot were good in the movie and they had the same shytty script Leto did.

will and MARgo sucked in the movie.
as both never used their star power.
to one, be astute enough to look at the source material at all.
that is why this movie sucked for them all.
as no one, stopped this movie and said.
wait, why are we doing this.
when in legacy the cartoon dc universe movie-verse is superior.
no one stopped to even look at recent suicide squad cartoon.
to be like why are we not doing this.

why is ben Affleck batman here and not doing what occurred in the cartoon.
that is why MARCO and will are not good in this movie.
as they never tried to be good.
as far as their stature as draws. To make someone aware of the lack of quality in this live action take.

when there is a cartoon that does way better than what is occurring on film.

that is why will and MARgo sucked.

to the point, I don't blame leto for his bad joker.
I blame will and margo who instead of putting a foot down to say. This is really a batman versus joker flick. They instead of even looking at the source material to see. They gloryhounded this movie for themselves. While also never knowing the spirit of a batman property first. plus being so inept to think. They could carry a batman and joker franchise.

without batman and the joker being integral to how people would connect to their characters. As no one is going to invest in a gotham backdrop. Unless batman and the joker are there first. Plus given weight on screen as to why the importance of both joker and the batman exist. To give weight to the other auxilliary gotham characters. who could be a value as a draw in that same universe.

that is why MARgo and will sucked as deadshot and Harley. When it was already setup for both characters within the cartoon movie to become a draw.

suicide squad and justice league are the two biggest omission of relevant source material in the history of film.
as both properties had high quality animated fleshed out stories and visuals to port. Instead all you got was another example of disconnect between administrative sectors of warner.
which resulted in a complete inept take on high quality source material.

warner/dc is inept and stoopid.



art barr

will never even seemed to consult his own weirdo son.
who came to a wedding in a Batman snow suit.
that is how inept the results of both will and MARCO gloryhounding this film.
made it even more stoopid and even more inept as fukk.


not to mention,...
will ain't even tell them to stop making the main villainess dance.
like that nikka just ignored that shyt.
when will supposed to be the black guy. That is supposed to be like,...nah nah,not that.
nikka ain't even tel them to remove the villain dancing and doing spells.

that is why will and Margo were also dually awful.

 

[Tommy Knocks]

I honestly didn't think he was that bad. He did fine for what little he was given to work with.

I think people just expected too much from him. As soon as the movie was announced people were already expecting him to surpass Heath Ledger, and when he didn't do that the backlash came.

and what sucks is they wanted him to surpass him with such few scenes, its not a joker movie, its a suicide movie with joker making a cameo if you ask me.

i think the memes are a bit too harsh.

Leto is a good actor, he'll make a solid comeback.

 

[daemonova]

@Ethnic Vagina Finder makes terrible threads

I don't know about that but this thread bad.

As I said before if joker is the main villain will smith character dies. There is nothing wrong with crime boss joker every version doesn't need to be jump off the cliff crazy

 

[Tommy Knocks]

I like my joker with face tats and tattoos and shyt.. y'all tripping, his take was a dope modern update

it was but then he had to work with a PG13 script

 

[daemonova]

Ben affleck ain't batman no more because of his drug problems, His marital problems, and he didn't mind the team up movies but he he didn't want to play the solo character

He had three movies in which he was batman, one more than Keaton, you ppl want too much

 

[daemonova]

Suicide squad was DC first hit but had mixed reviews, then bright came out and bombed, so DC wanted to do revisionist history.

Ayers gets replaced with gunn who I hate, I can't stand both guardians movie or the infinity war script which he wrote for the guardians part.

Y'all gonna be apologizing to Ayers, like u had to apologized to whedon. The only reason The Russo avengers worked because feige had to tell them Disney execs to get tf out the way

 

[Osmosis]

Leto aside, the fact that two dudes won Oscars playing Joker does make you look at the character differently. A lot of actors can play that role to critical acclaim.

 

[Pimpdaddy]

Just compare that "Really really bad" scene compared to what we actually got in the movie.


Comic con trailer

Bottom one is way more sinister and a better performance. Movie seemed like they chose his most try hard version of.

Editing really fukked this guy as well

damn you're actually right

 

[KravenMorehead™]

RE: The film room’s inaugural “where did it go wrong” series: Alien 3

Haven't watched Alien 3,

but this thread reminded me of a Joss Whedon article I read about 10 years ago.

And when I checked he was actually talking about Alien: Resurrection(which he wrote, and not Alien 3), but I still think this little excerpt is relevant to where the thread is going, so I'll drop it here:

( Joss Whedon )

O: How much of your writing made it into the final versions of Twister and Speed?

JW: Most of the dialogue in Speed is mine, and a bunch of the characters. That was actually pretty much a good experience. I have quibbles. I also have the only poster left with my name still on it. Getting arbitrated off the credits was un-fun. But Speed has a bunch. And Twister, less. In Twister, there are things that worked and things that weren't the way I'd intended them. Whereas Speed came out closer to what I'd been trying to do. I think of Speed as one of the few movies I've made that I actually like.

O: What about Waterworld?

JW: [Laughs.] Waterworld. I refer to myself as the world's highest-paid stenographer. This is a situation I've been in a bunch of times. By the way, I'm very bitter, is that okay? I mean, people ask me, "What's the worst job you ever had?" "I once was a writer in Hollywood…" Talk about taking the glow off of movies. I've had almost nothing but bad experiences. Waterworld was a good idea, and the script was the classic, "They have a good idea, then they write a generic script and don't really care about the idea." When I was brought in, there was no water in the last 40 pages of the script. It all took place on land, or on a ship, or whatever. I'm like, "Isn't the cool thing about this guy that he has gills?" And no one was listening. I was there basically taking notes from Costner, who was very nice, fine to work with, but he was not a writer. And he had written a bunch of stuff that they wouldn't let their staff touch. So I was supposed to be there for a week, and I was there for seven weeks, and I accomplished nothing. I wrote a few puns, and a few scenes that I can't even sit through because they came out so bad. It was the same situation with X-Men. They said, "Come in and punch up the big climax, the third act, and if you can, make it cheaper." That was the mandate on both movies, and my response to both movies was, "The problem with the third act is the first two acts." But, again, no one was paying attention. X-Men was very interesting in that, by that time, I actually had a reputation in television. I was actually somebody. People stopped thinking I was John Sweden on the phone. And then, in X-Men, not only did they throw out my script and never tell me about it; they actually invited me to the read-through, having thrown out my entire draft without telling me. I was like, "Oh, that's right! This is the movies! The writer is shyt in the movies!" I'll never understand that. I have one line left in that movie. Actually, there are a couple of lines left in that are out of context and make no sense, or are delivered so badly, so terribly… There's one line that's left the way I wrote it.

O: Which is?

JW: "'It's me.' 'Prove it.' 'You're a dikk.'" Hey, it got a laugh.

O: It's funny that the only lines I really remember from that movie are that one and Storm's toad comment.

JW: Okay, which was also mine, and that's the interesting thing. Everybody remembers that as the worst line ever written, but the thing about that is, it was supposed to be delivered as completely offhand. [Adopts casual, bored tone.] "You know what happens when a toad gets hit by lightning?" Then, after he gets electrocuted, "Ahhh, pretty much the same thing that happens to anything else." But Halle Berry said it like she was Desdemona. [Strident, ringing voice.] "The same thing that happens to everything eeelse!" That's the thing that makes you go crazy. At least "You're a dikk" got delivered right. The worst thing about these things is that, when the actors say it wrong, it makes the writer look stupid. People assume that the line… I listened to half the dialogue in Alien 4, and I'm like, "That's idiotic," because of the way it was said. And nobody knows that. Nobody ever gets that. They say, "That was a stupid script," which is the worst pain in the world. I have a great long boring story about that, but I can tell you the very short version. In Alien 4, the director changed something so that it didn't make any sense. He wanted someone to go and get a gun and get killed by the alien, so I wrote that in and tried to make it work, but he directed it in a way that it made no sense whatsoever. And I was sitting there in the editing room, trying to come up with looplines to explain what's going on, to make the scene make sense, and I asked the director, "Can you just explain to me why he's doing this? Why is he going for this gun?" And the editor, who was French, turned to me and said, with a little leer on his face, [adopts gravelly, smarmy, French-accented voice] "Because eet's een the screept." And I actually went and dented the bathroom stall with my puddly little fist. I have never been angrier. But it's the classic, "When something goes wrong, you assume the writer's a dork." And that's painful.