Playing the Joker is easy money and Leto managed to be the only one to fukk it up

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Ayers was the problem not Leto.

Leto didn't choose get to costume design to look like a crackhead.

Leto doesn't have the clout to assert creative freedom in a film that didn't need him. Which was stupid... Joker should of been a key integral piece, but they rather use the worst fukking villian imaginable. Ayer is a mediocre director that needs to be called out more. Him writing the story in 6 weeks is the biggest red flag. Regardless if the studio force his hand. If you material needs more time. You get more time. You don't just do as you told when it's reputation as a film maker on the line.

Reeves called WB bluffs with "deadlines" a long time ago.

A while back Ayer admitted he should've made Joker the villain in "Suicide Squad". Leto was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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Thread is kinda :dahell: because if playing Joker was easy then nobody would've blinked when Health Ledger's name was announced. As it stands, most people immediately said there was no way in hell he could pull it off.

As far as actors, you can only be so creative within the constraints of the script and director's vision. Leto's Joker was David Ayer's vision. I don't understand why people shyt on Leto when he was jjust following the direction of Ayer.

Now, did the studio step in and fukk the movie up? Most definitely. But when it comes to that version of The Joker, Ayer filmed damn near an entire movie worth of scenes with him. So Leto's Joker being wack can't be blamed on the studio, either. All they did was fukk the editing up.

If I had to nail it down to one thing, as to why Leto's Joker was wack....there was nothing Joker about him. It was just some crazy tatted up crime boss. He kinda reminded me of Gary Oldman's character from "True Romance".

Fred.

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Nicholson, Ledger, Phoenix and Hamil are just better actors. Well their script allowed them to fully showcase their abilities. Leto was trying to be Nicholson, Ledger, Hamil and Lil Wayne. That's alot to take on
I thought Leto was more akin to the character of Joker then Joaquín Phoenix was.
It's a shame Ayer buckled to studio pressure and cut out his scenes and made him a non factor.
Easily the most comic accurate looking actor

However, they tried to make him everything while giving him nothing to work with. Also he was only on screen for 7 mins.
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I'm dying imagining him saying that to Batman. :dead:

Fred.
Low key if thats the route they were going....Should have went all in. However, he really should have made him the villain I know he admitted that. However, I dont know how that pitch went to WB...and they agreed to make him a side character.

Even Assault on Arkham eventually makes him the villain. Probably would have been better off making a live action version of that.


He had more screentime on here than the movie :mjlol:

His whole vibe seems better here than in the movie. Shame a music video director got it over Ayer.
 

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I liked Leto's Joker... its always good to have a fresh take on the character.

the dumbass suits at Wb cut all his scenes and ayer overplayed his hand by doing the whole alien angle. shouldve been hella grounded
Yo honestly...
And im on some serious shyt.
If he had a whole flik centered around himself just fukkin around like that.
That shyt mighta been groundbreaking.
At least different.
Motives be just getting in the way for these old ass pasties.
Smh
 
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