Pippen Says MJ was “Determined” to prove to young cats he was Larger than Lebron in the Last Dance.

[god shamgod]

A reporter who got an advanced copy said it’s Jordan rules 2.0 with pippen saying he was a better teammate & overall player/better defender than Jordan.pippen roasting Doug Collins,paxson & whining about the bill Cartwright wenningtons etc not getting credit. Said he has a jealousy issue

he did say pippen actual basketball insight when he wasn’t attacking people was good

still won’t read it

 

[jwinfield]

A reporter who got an advanced copy said it’s Jordan rules 2.0 with pippen saying he was a better teammate & overall player/better defender than Jordan.pippen roasting Doug Collins,paxson & whining about the bill Cartwright wenningtons etc not getting credit. Said he has a jealousy issue

he did say pippen actual basketball insight when he wasn’t attacking people was good

still won’t read it

Breh, how much credit is Bill Wennington supposed to get

 

[god shamgod]

Breh, how much credit is Bill Wennington supposed to get

Pippen & others think the bulls as a team didn’t get enough credit.they think the audience wants to hear about the randy browns ,Longley & Ron Harper stories. I mean they already reached when Steve Kerr had a story Jordan was the bulls period everybody knows this

 

[jwinfield]

Pippen & others think the bulls as a team didn’t get enough credit.they think the audience wants to hear about the randy browns ,Longley & Ron Harper stories. I mean they already reached when Steve Kerr had a story Jordan was the bulls period everybody knows this

On what other title team are the 8th-12th man even talked about?

Warriors just won 3 in 5 years and no one is asking why Ian Clark isn’t shown love.

 

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

I don't get it...I think I watched LD about 3x since it aired and I still didn't see anything wrong with what MJ said or did....everything seemed to be on point and as accurate as it could've been from my recollection.

But somebody needs to get Scottie in a room, by himself and look him straight in the eye and tell him to his face that he's DELUSIONAL.

He was a great versatile player--no doubt, and he gets his respect when 90s players are brought up...BUT he is no MJ...not even close. There's no amount of discussion, debate, marketing, or film that can dispute that...he has to cement it in his head that he was the wing man...no if ands or buts.

I think the issue is that Jordan gets to create his own narrative and act like it's fact. LeBron does the same shyt.

I want to hear Pippen's version because we know "the truth" will be somewhere between Last Dance and Scottie's book. LD was entertaining but it was just a Jordan puff piece....same way Scottie's book will be a Scottie puff piece.

The way ESPN/FS1 etc., came for Scottie was interesting. None of the analysts had any nuance. It was 100% "MJ IS ALWAYS RIGHT SCOTTIE IS WRONG DON'T EVEN QUESTION IT OR YOUSA DUMBAZZ."

If LeBron did a Last Chance doc and handled it like MJ, he would get roasted by at least 50% of those same analysts.

 

[Po pimp]

Flabby dwight d rose (at that time) ben wallace year 17 melo and shaq

On the MJ side, you have Parrish who was already 40 and never played meaningful minutes for the Bulls, Kukoc who’s only in the HOF because of his international play, and Rodman averaged less than 10ppg for his career (arguably GOAT rebounder though). Rodman was 35 when the Bulls traded for him.

 

[filial_piety]

I think the issue is that Jordan gets to create his own narrative and act like it's fact. LeBron does the same shyt.

I want to hear Pippen's version because we know "the truth" will be somewhere between Last Dance and Scottie's book. LD was entertaining but it was just a Jordan puff piece....same way Scottie's book will be a Scottie puff piece.

The way ESPN/FS1 etc., came for Scottie was interesting. None of the analysts had any nuance. It was 100% "MJ IS ALWAYS RIGHT SCOTTIE IS WRONG DON'T EVEN QUESTION IT OR YOUSA DUMBAZZ."

If LeBron did a Last Chance doc and handled it like MJ, he would get roasted by at least 50% of those same analysts.

But this is the crux of it that I don't get. Look, I'm not jocking Jordan, but he and Pippen are not equals, they never were and never will be and someone needs to tell him that and Scottie shouldn't have this need to discuss as if they were. It's the cold hard truth.

I don't know what "side" he has in any of this, because from what I can remember in the 1990s, it was Michael Jordan AND the Chicago Bulls. Everything in LD seemed pretty on point to me and didn't seem the least bit exegerated. I honestly don't know what could or should have been done differently.

And I'm not sure how old you are--but if you remember, back then Scottie wasn't even as popular as Rodman during the second 3-peat. Rodman was a pop icon in the late 90s, and I don't ever recall him ever having a beef about not getting any respect on the Bulls and he was clearly one of their top 3 players. On the otherhand, Pippen only seems to be the one that feels short changed in any of this and for the life of me I can't understand why

 

[jwinfield]

But this is the crux of it that I don't get. Look, I'm not jocking Jordan, but he and Pippen are not equals, they never were and never will be and someone needs to tell him that

That's the confusing thing.

This isn't some Shaq/Kobe shyt where you can have an argument about who the better player was or agree that it was two alphas leading the way.

Pip was never on Jordan's tier in terms of play or popularity.

 

[Art Barr]

On what other title team are the 8th-12th man even talked about?

Warriors just won 3 in 5 years and no one is asking why Ian Clark isn’t shown love.

Imo from all the bulls players who are not talked about.
believe the players on the bulls who feel slighted.
In their heart of hearts as transplants to chicago.
believe they should be the topic.
of a weekly chicago bulls Saturday night live da bears skit meets rich koz as the great svenghoulie.

I mean how are any bulls players on that roster. Not happy with their life and outcome. Plus the retelling of what occured.

I mean do we have to make an online bulls fanatic snl style skit.
Where we sit around in shield style red tint diors and shield label 80's style bulls sweaters.
Saying the team members aloud.
like a rewave snl bears meets chicago bulls skit.
I mean its is a parody and hilarious.

Yet past that never occurring on snl.
After the bears skits.

I just do not understand how any other player is upset at mike.

This shyt was covered in a lord finesse quotabel from a song called :

I got three words fa dem:

fukk dem nikkaz


Art Barr


lORD FINESSE : If i score points and you don't.
Dat's not my fault.

 

[murksiderock]

Bron is your goat and your goat only, history and the people are not with youWe the people gave Bron a crack at the goat title and he came up top 3-5. Another player gonna come along and claim the title rightfully from MJ imo.

You have your opinion, shared by many. I have mine, which is also shared by many...

Nice deflection from being called out on your dumb talking point though lol...

 

[Mook]

And sadly no matter how right he possibly is

The court of public opinion has already spoken and has crowned Jordan the goat

I don’t know how hard it would be to write that into the sunset but for some it could be ego crushing to always play second fiddle.

But Scotty had his moment without Mike and he didn’t perform

Just ain't had it in him to be #1. Shaq and kobe is a regular thing between real numbers 1s I bet. If scottie was a real winner he would have left after the first or second chip when the narratives started.

 

[Mook]

He needs help, you can just tell by looking at him

He probably a damn junkie Lmao.

 

[McPiff]

On the MJ side, you have Parrish who was already 40 and never played meaningful minutes for the Bulls, Kukoc who’s only in the HOF because of his international play, and Rodman averaged less than 10ppg for his career (arguably GOAT rebounder though). Rodman was 35 when the Bulls traded for him.

you're right about parish. i dont think ive seen or heard anyone bring him up ever (except this dumb ass pic)


Kukoc was 6moy and was a baller, so i doubt he got in the hof strictly based on his international play but that's just me tho

 

[Big Boss]

But this is the crux of it that I don't get. Look, I'm not jocking Jordan, but he and Pippen are not equals, they never were and never will be and someone needs to tell him that and Scottie shouldn't have this need to discuss as if they were. It's the cold hard truth.

I don't know what "side" he has in any of this, because from what I can remember in the 1990s, it was Michael Jordan AND the Chicago Bulls. Everything in LD seemed pretty on point to me and didn't seem the least bit exegerated. I honestly don't know what could or should have been done differently.

And I'm not sure how old you are--but if you remember, back then Scottie wasn't even as popular as Rodman during the second 3-peat. Rodman was a pop icon in the late 90s, and I don't ever recall him ever having a beef about not getting any respect on the Bulls and he was clearly one of their top 3 players. On the otherhand, Pippen only seems to be the one that feels short changed in any of this and for the life of me I can't understand why

Facts

 

[Originalman]

Couple of things. If you from Chicago you and old enough to have seen the bulls rise then fall from glory you know about these stories. But the media with they documentaries and players trying to sell books and sites like this like to repeat these stories over and over again for hits, money and views.

On pip signing that contract he signed it because he had back surgery. He played most of his career with a bad back. He didn't want to risk his back fukking up so he took the low ball deal the bulls offered him. And even when they paid pip it was a sign and trade for the 1998-1999 season. Reinsdorf told everyone to get the fukk out he ain't paying all that money anymore. But did pip a solid and resigned him for 67 mill and traded him to Houston. So pip got paid by way of houston payroll.

Next reinsdorf the owner has always been a cheap b*stard who ran the team like a flea market (same as he ran the white sox). Scotty, MJ and Phil were all underpaid for years. MJ even threatened to retire if he didn't get a raise when he came back when his contract was about to run out.

The media and players just shot arrows at fat boy Krause cause they either didn't want to fukk up they access to the team or money when it came to negotiations. But the money started and ended with that white boy reinsdorf.

I mean reinsdorf is the idiot who told LBJ in 2010 that he couldn't guarantee that he would spend money over the cap. Way to shoot yourself in the foot during free agency reinsdorf.

Another thing there has always been bad blood with those bulls championship teams. Whether teammates not liking MJ to players not liking Phil to players and Phil not liking management. shyt MJ had a grudge against the team for a decade cause reinsdorf supposedly told him to kick rocks when MJ thought his years of winning for the team would allow him to buy a piece of the team after retirement.

Finally pippen is trying to sell a book. But to think that team wins championships (with a cheap ass owner) without pip is insane. That dude did all the dirty work on the team. He was basically a 6-7 pg in a SF body who was the most versatile player and defender on the team (and guaranteed to give you 17 to 21 ppg, 7rb and 6 ast and a GOAT type of wing defender in a slow pace NBA), who was also basically available every night except for 1998. Even playing through long term issues and a chronic ankle (thanks to John Starks) all through those championship runs fall 1990 thru summer 1998.

Anyway if you from Chicago it is well documented the bad blood of those bulls championship teams and the Chicago bears super bowl team and how both owners destroyed championship teams over money (which isn't talked about).