Pippen Says MJ was “Determined” to prove to young cats he was Larger than Lebron in the Last Dance.

[#1 pick]

And that’s how you know MJ is petty. Because even in the analytics community it’s like 50/50 between Bron and Jordan on who really is the goat. It’s not even unanimously LeBron just yet. A lot of the advanced metrics and analytics still point to MJ potentially being the greatest of all time. I follow this one popular analytics channel who ranked the greatest players of all time at their peaks. It’s called the greatest peak series. And the channel had MJ ranked number 1 all time slightly ahead of Bron. But it’s not enough. It’ll never be enough.

Bro, you talking about the web community where some metrics still use stocks and at the end of the day, some of them are fans with implicit bias. The real analytics community within the NBA with the access to all of the good shyt we aren't privy too see Bron as the overwhelming best to ever do it. Them nikkas who go to the sloan conference and all of these high end analytics events see Bron as GOAT and it's due to defensive consistency and versatility.

MJ 80s defense hurts his claim as he's rated a net negative on that end. Both MJ and Bron are above everyone offensively but defensively MJ had his best moments with Pippen and anytime without him, his defensive impact went downhill vastly even if his stocks improved. Bron metrics showed his teams was better with him on the court on that end even as a teen. Both are the two best players metrics wise to ever play the game. Maybe Giannis and Curry can catch them.

 

[#1 pick]

And MJ would be remembered as Russell Westbrook without Scottie Pippen

MJ is way better than Westbrook.

 

[murksiderock]

Spoken like someone who hasn’t watched Jordan play in real time.

You Jordan riders never saw Kareem when he was really Kareem (the 70s), never saw Wilt or Bill so this pretending like you have to see everyone to rate them is some backwards deflecting yall only do because everyone ain't topping off Mike...

No doubt Bron has dominated this era and those carefully curated accomplishments/accolades are impressive but MJ was still more impressive and did it in less time in his era. I’m not going to waste time and list any of MJ’s accomplishments/accolades. At this point, Bron is running a marathon kind of like Kareem while MJ was more like Usain Bolt, same sport different game.

First of all you can't be selective with this list of accomplishments, either they happened ot they didn't. Second, if you want to prorate it to the same window of Jordan's career, whether 15 years (Mike's whole career) or 13 years (Mike's Bulls career), you do realize LeBron still has the most in all of these categories than anyone else in his career, 2003-16, or 2003-18, right?

You the only dummy on here who makes the argument longevity helped Bron's career like Bron wasn't dominating the sport before he had longevity. Lmao you're literally the only dude who makes this claim---->there are claims to be made for longevity but you don't know how to make them...

 

[wtfyomom]

breh i dont even like MJ and in most cases I would take the side of a Pippen but man, and i never say this, he comes off as a hater. who cares about this stupid ass doc? of course it was an MJ vehicle. Like if you had these overall greivances of MJ being an a$$hole I agree but you making it all about this stupid doc? who gives a fukk ? you shoulda been spoke up if it was really about past issues. pippen looks like he needs attention,

 

[Tony D'Amato]

Not to mention Larsa taking his guap

 

[Art Barr]

They couldn’t get to Luc because of the pandemic.

Luc had his own documentary a few months ago that Mike participated in.

To add on.
It addresses how hard mj had it.
to be able to ramp up scrubs.

That is why the bulls are so beloved.
As they were basically scrubs picked by a damn accountant.
Other than by pedigree horace and of course mike.

Which even in horace's favor.
He still was not an acc player of the year the calibur of jordan tho.

All those loveable bulls players live in mythos.
As they were the group of players who were scrubs and came out of the deer in headlights. Of just being outmatched in an nba game and having spectator syndrome. Playing with mj.

Not to mention....being of the type of scrubs.
That doug collins figured out early in.
Give it to mike and get out the way. Then later on give mike the pg duties and ramp this group by sheer will via a triple double every night. As a goat argument can Arguably be raised.
With jordan playing away from his natural at pg.
With mj Being better at lebron's natural than lebron playing pip's role at the three.
Which also shows the same level of attention to detail and committment.
To also close out what pippen would not do and also could have aided the bulls.
in beating the previous two best ever regular season records. By moving to the one and allowing the euro three kukoc.
to play domestically at the three. Instead of forcing the ferocity lacking kukoc.
to play out of position and sorts via slick domestically at the four. Also in closing..since lebron and both pippen failed to move to their natural.
or natural progression on court at the pg position. Is also why they both equally failed in volume to advance to the finals. Incomparison to.jordan's flawless record in the finals as a leader. Plus bron and pip not being capable of galvanizing a unit to win the finals.
devoid of an actualized player they failed to both equally ramp.
In the same manner as jordan.
did with significantly lesser talent of players to pool from. While also vehemently being on the outs with the front office ran by krause and reinsdork.
As pip and bron never ramped higher.
nor lower quality roster players.
Plus both relied on proven actual all star darkhorse level talent.
to secure any playoff or finals glory.
Which is much different in completely descending lacking quality.
to the jud's, brian cooke, bill wennington, randy brown, dikkey simpkins, all time woat bust Stacy king, etc. On roster jordan ramped on two three peats. Worth six finals births and six finals series wins undefeated as well.
There is no way someone cognitively viewed both the bulls dynasty and lebron's failure to secure two back to back titles. Then think mj had a more talented group. When bron was drafted with more talent.
than was ever on one time on the bulls roster.
This is before bron even went to miami.

Bron had better supporting cast.
as well as pippen's higher supporting cast ring chasing fails.
when pip was not flanking mj in chicago.



Art Barr

 

[McPiff]

Flabby dwight d rose (at that time) ben wallace year 17 melo and shaq

 

[spliz]

Flabby dwight d rose (at that time) ben wallace year 17 melo and shaq

U know Bron is a year 17 player as well right?

 

[Copy Ninja]

Flabby dwight d rose (at that time) ben wallace year 17 melo and shaq

All those dudes even at that age more athletic than Kukoc ever was

 

[McPiff]

U know Bron is a year 17 player as well right?

Bron is in year 19 but what does it have to do with picture I quoted?

All those dudes even at that age more athletic than Kukoc ever was

good point

 

[fifth column]

You Jordan riders never saw Kareem when he was really Kareem (the 70s), never saw Wilt or Bill so this pretending like you have to see everyone to rate them is some backwards deflecting yall only do because everyone ain't topping off Mike...



First of all you can't be selective with this list of accomplishments, either they happened ot they didn't. Second, if you want to prorate it to the same window of Jordan's career, whether 15 years (Mike's whole career) or 13 years (Mike's Bulls career), you do realize LeBron still has the most in all of these categories than anyone else in his career, 2003-16, or 2003-18, right?

You the only dummy on here who makes the argument longevity helped Bron's career like Bron wasn't dominating the sport before he had longevity. Lmao you're literally the only dude who makes this claim---->there are claims to be made for longevity but you don't know how to make them...

Bron is your goat and your goat only, history and the people are not with youWe the people gave Bron a crack at the goat title and he came up top 3-5. Another player gonna come along and claim the title rightfully from MJ imo.

 

[El Jefe]

pipp gettin roasted by experts on every major sports platform x rightfully so

GOAT made sum kalls

from greeny x kaplan , to stephen a , wilbourne , broussard , skip , michael smith , keyshawn , max , rob , all been taken a shxt on Pipp and sayin he outta pocket

 

[filial_piety]

I don't get it...I think I watched LD about 3x since it aired and I still didn't see anything wrong with what MJ said or did....everything seemed to be on point and as accurate as it could've been from my recollection.

But somebody needs to get Scottie in a room, by himself and look him straight in the eye and tell him to his face that he's DELUSIONAL.

He was a great versatile player--no doubt, and he gets his respect when 90s players are brought up...BUT he is no MJ...not even close. There's no amount of discussion, debate, marketing, or film that can dispute that...he has to cement it in his head that he was the wing man...no if ands or buts.

 

[Osmosis]

70% of Bron's teammates here were flabby when they played with Bron while Jordan was on teams that were winning 60 games and advancing in the playoffs without him.

 

[High quality poster]

70% of Bron's teammates here were flabby when they played with Bron while Jordan was on teams that were winning 60 games and advancing in the playoffs without him.

What team won 60 games without MJ? You a whole bytch anyway.