Pippen Says MJ was “Determined” to prove to young cats he was Larger than Lebron in the Last Dance.

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Pippen talking shyt to sell his book again?

Without MJ and Oakley, Pippen would be a nobody. He got drafted outside of top 10, had he been drafted by some incompetent franchise who knows where his career could've been. Remember this is the era where a lot of talent would get buried by the coaching staff real quick. Pippen was a raw talent with no confidence back then. Pip needs to shut the fukk up. From not wanting Zeke in Olympics, to talking shyt about Mike, he needs to learn his place, which is him being a Robin.
 

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you're right about parish. i dont think ive seen or heard anyone bring him up ever (except this dumb ass pic)


Kukoc was 6moy and was a baller, so i doubt he got in the hof strictly based on his international play but that's just me tho :manny:
It was obviously a combination, but let me ask you this. Do you think Kukoc would be in the HOF if he had the same exact accolades and stats, but was born in America?
 

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You have your opinion, shared by many. I have mine, which is also shared by many...

Nice deflection from being called out on your dumb talking point though lol...
My talking points are dumb because you don’t agree? You a clown:mjlit:
 
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But this is the crux of it that I don't get. Look, I'm not jocking Jordan, but he and Pippen are not equals, they never were and never will be and someone needs to tell him that and Scottie shouldn't have this need to discuss as if they were. It's the cold hard truth.

I don't know what "side" he has in any of this, because from what I can remember in the 1990s, it was Michael Jordan AND the Chicago Bulls. Everything in LD seemed pretty on point to me and didn't seem the least bit exegerated. I honestly don't know what could or should have been done differently.

And I'm not sure how old you are--but if you remember, back then Scottie wasn't even as popular as Rodman during the second 3-peat. Rodman was a pop icon in the late 90s, and I don't ever recall him ever having a beef about not getting any respect on the Bulls and he was clearly one of their top 3 players. On the otherhand, Pippen only seems to be the one that feels short changed in any of this and for the life of me I can't understand why

I barely remember the first 3 rings (Kindergarten, 1st and 2nd grade)....Definitely have a better recollection of the 2nd- 3-peat.

Rodman was THAT DUDE after leaving San Antonio and Scottie probably lost some glow after the Knicks series in '94.

My thinking is that Scottie's perspective will be biased.....but it will contain some truths that Michael's documentary didn't. The media has gone to great lengths to protect MJ and WE STILL think he's an azzhole. I can't imagine how MJ would be viewed if he was covered like a black NFL QB, Bron etc.

I'm not looking to Scottie to tell the whole truth but I also don't trust MJ to tell the truth 100%. That's human nature. MJ talking about punching Kerr and being tough isn't really a revelation. MJ is probably proud of that shyt considering the Bulls won with Steve Kerr stepping up his game.

Scottie is disgruntled but I also suspect he's the only one willing to give some balance to the Bulls narrative.

What I wanna know is how the other Bulls feel about Scottie's book. If they agree/like it, that would say a lot. If they hate it like MJ.....:francis:
 

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Pippen talking shyt to sell his book again?

Without MJ and Oakley, Pippen would be a nobody. He got drafted outside of top 10, had he been drafted by some incompetent franchise who knows where his career could've been. Remember this is the era where a lot of talent would get buried by the coaching staff real quick. Pippen was a raw talent with no confidence back then. Pip needs to shut the fukk up. From not wanting Zeke in Olympics, to talking shyt about Mike, he needs to learn his place, which is him being a Robin.
He was actually the 5th overall pick
 

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Couple of things. If you from Chicago you and old enough to have seen the bulls rise then fall from glory you know about these stories. But the media with they documentaries and players trying to sell books and sites like this like to repeat these stories over and over again for hits, money and views.

On pip signing that contract he signed it because he had back surgery. He played most of his career with a bad back. He didn't want to risk his back fukking up so he took the low ball deal the bulls offered him. And even when they paid pip it was a sign and trade for the 1998-1999 season. Reinsdorf told everyone to get the fukk out he ain't paying all that money anymore. But did pip a solid and resigned him for 67 mill and traded him to Houston. So pip got paid by way of houston payroll.

Next reinsdorf the owner has always been a cheap b*stard who ran the team like a flea market (same as he ran the white sox). Scotty, MJ and Phil were all underpaid for years. MJ even threatened to retire if he didn't get a raise when he came back when his contract was about to run out.

The media and players just shot arrows at fat boy Krause cause they either didn't want to fukk up they access to the team or money when it came to negotiations. But the money started and ended with that white boy reinsdorf.

I mean reinsdorf is the idiot who told LBJ in 2010 that he couldn't guarantee that he would spend money over the cap. Way to shoot yourself in the foot during free agency reinsdorf.

Another thing there has always been bad blood with those bulls championship teams. Whether teammates not liking MJ to players not liking Phil to players and Phil not liking management. shyt MJ had a grudge against the team for a decade cause reinsdorf supposedly told him to kick rocks when MJ thought his years of winning for the team would allow him to buy a piece of the team after retirement.

Finally pippen is trying to sell a book. But to think that team wins championships (with a cheap ass owner) without pip is insane. That dude did all the dirty work on the team. He was basically a 6-7 pg in a SF body who was the most versatile player and defender on the team (and guaranteed to give you 17 to 21 ppg, 7rb and 6 ast and a GOAT type of wing defender in a slow pace NBA), who was also basically available every night except for 1998. Even playing through long term issues and a chronic ankle (thanks to John Starks) all through those championship runs fall 1990 thru summer 1998.

Anyway if you from Chicago it is well documented the bad blood of those bulls championship teams and the Chicago bears super bowl team and how both owners destroyed championship teams over money (which isn't talked about).


Man y'all overrating scottie for three season after mike ramped this nikka for those three seasons.
First off no scottie did not do the dirty lifting.
it is a lie.
He got beat up. So much so he is why the bulls did not go to the finals the previous year.
Go look up scottie's games and career average versus the pistons and mj's average versus rh pistons. Mj average versus the pistons is 37 a game all time like his actual mvp year scoring average where he also won...DPOY. scottie on no day was never dpoy.
Second. Pip never took pg duties on paper ever.
Plus mike actually was the pg and averaged a triple double. Sans one game a blow.out where he sat with nine assists like he was supposed.
to instead of stat padding.. Plus defensively mike won defensive player of the year not pip.

All this pip did this and heavy lifted that is cap.
All pip did of note was not get a headache versus the pistons.
Whom the bulls had their number from the rego season. After scottie had a headache.
Which is still the worst excuse ever in nba history.
Where detroit basically fell on their sword. Once the mind games they used on boston and the refs ran its course.
for skilled superior on court play by the bulls in the offs and got detroit swept.
Then pips'sswitch on magic in the finals. Does not illusteate the full narrative in general af all whatsoever

When pip should have moved entirely to pg and NEVER DID LIKE JORDAN. PLUS pip NEVER AVERAGED a TRIPLE DOUBLE LIKE JORDAN RUNNING THE OFFENSE.
the only reason mj was not switched and left on magic to duel. Was the bulls already learned from the jordan triple double pg era. That they have to save mj for the heavy lifting.
That making him exert himself was playing into the opponents hand. Hence why pip was given the herd magic assignment after mike already had the assignment.

As a sg guarding magic at the pg.


In that scottie never seized the day and took over pg.
Plus if pip had played pg.
The phantom foul does not happen. As he would have been on hubert davis the whole game instead of one centralized play. Plus by playing the three and never switching to a more lucrative position at the one and becoming de facto leader by depth chart. Pip never did. Pip ever seitched to pg and that is why he lost after being traded as well
As pip never played pg like mike. To know how to win with anyone regardless of pedigree. Plus where to pick his spots. Hence when mj changed his game from dribble drive to low post threat.
Scottie never did the same and just from that one comparison easily shows a cavernous divide between mj and pip.

Plus pip ruined kukoc and a bonafide whip. By never playing the one. Plus possibly ruined the idea.
they could have best the single season win record more than twice.
As the dober man d team. The real best bulls team in history is where pip gained his most shine to ramp to.his all star game mvp minus mj.
This whole idea pip was worthy like worthy was to magic to mj is all cap.

Pip was never the glove.
Mj is the glove.
Gary payton just needed a misappropriated nickname.
Pip was never worthy level praise.
He was just air jordan's sidekick.

Mj is the best pg of all time.
Mj is the best defensive guard of all time as well.
While also being the goat player.
Plus goat shooter.
As i seen mj make the shot under duress without .in the biggest moment consistently from any range period. As even that curry shooter shyt cap. As we seen curry lose the finals.
when he had the shot and get owned by kev love of all people


All this pip did this or that. Was after mike ramped pip.
Plua pip never did nuffin similar to mike in pedigree or execution.
To ever warrant someone ever slighting mj in any facet for scottie.

It just is not true. Plus scottie schluped't it self admittedly.
There is no game film or anything that can illustrate scottie on jordan level.
Not defensively, not as a offensive player, not running the wing at pg or sf. As mj was better than scottie playing away from his natural at sf and pg over scottie easy.
Not once in timeline is there evidence of scottie being anywhere near jordan.

Jordan ramped scottie.
In that scottie never had a larry holmes takes over ali moment.
From ramping based on solely sparring with ali.

In thAt jordan was always better.

I know so i even saw the practices live to dispute this bullshyt as well.

Art Barr


Pip anywhere near mike as a player.
That never occurred ever.
 
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It was obviously a combination, but let me ask you this. Do you think Kukoc would be in the HOF if he had the same exact accolades and stats, but was born in America?

:dwillhuh:

the same accolades ? Well yeah id like to think so.
His track record is dope
 

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Pippen talking shyt to sell his book again?

Without MJ and Oakley, Pippen would be a nobody. He got drafted outside of top 10, had he been drafted by some incompetent franchise who knows where his career could've been. Remember this is the era where a lot of talent would get buried by the coaching staff real quick. Pippen was a raw talent with no confidence back then. Pip needs to shut the fukk up. From not wanting Zeke in Olympics, to talking shyt about Mike, he needs to learn his place, which is him being a Robin.

and if he didn’t want to be a Robin it’s not like there weren’t places for him to go.

Right after he signed that trash deal and Krause wasn’t going to adjust it, dude should’ve demanded a trade.

But when you’re a millimeter away from MJ you want those MJ benefits. So it can’t be both ways.
 
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