Pippen Says MJ was “Determined” to prove to young cats he was Larger than Lebron in the Last Dance.

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Idek why this has to be stated :mjlol: such a dumb argument. MJ went against the best players in the world at the time, fukk they want him to do, jump in a time machine?

MJ in a time traveling movie facing new players :ohhh:

call it Space Jam 2: Electric Boogaloo :russ:
 

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Agreed, except for that last part (and I'd still take MJ over Bron). I'd say Wilt and Kareem both have a case to be on that same level. Heck, Duncan and Hakeem too.

This is fair enough. I think if we separate All-Timers into tiers, Kareem is the only one who belongs in that tier with them, even if I think they are a cut above...

LeBron and Mike just reached a different level of play in the playoffs more consistently but Kareem has the next strongest playoff resume of anyone else. Bron and Mike are the only two to hit that level at that height...

Mike is better than Bron. I don’t think they are equals at all.

You're entitled to your opinion...
 

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MJ dominated his era better than Bron did this era.

Mike played in a substantially less competitive era...

Regardless, in Bron's career 2003-present:

•no one else won more than 3 total championships (Duncan, Steph, Wade); Bron has 4

•no one else won more than 2 chips as the best player on their team (Duncan, Kobe, KD); Bron has twice that at 4

•no one else won more than 2 MVPs (Nash, Steph, Giannis); Bron has twice that with 4

•no one else has more than 9 Top 5 MVP finishes (Kobe); Bron has 13

•no one else won more than 2 FMVPs (Kobe, KD, Kawhi); Bron has twice that with 4

•no one else has more than 5 (Steph, Wade) appearances in the championship round; Bron has twice as many with 10

•no one else has more than 9 1st Team All-NBAs (Kobe); Bron has 13

•no one else has more than 10 total All-NBAs (Kobe, CP3); Bron has 17

..........

All objective criteria says Bron has dominated his era, 18+ years 2003-present, essentially twice as much as whoever you think the next closest guy is. You can dance around it however you choose but everything we use to attach value and assign greatness to players, Bron has done it more and better than anyone else whose career overlapped with his, though I'm sure now you'll find a way to say any of these measures aren't what we use to substantiate credibility of greatness to guys lol...

You a real hater...
 

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The team is considered one of the greatest teams of all time.

4 of the guys on the team are in the HOF.

The doc talked about the other guys on the team.
Luc Longley wasn't in the documentary and was the starting center in 96 - 98 Bulls team. Craig Hodges wasn't part of the document either.
Did MJ get a chance to go up against KD who destroyed Bron in back to back finals or Steph who got 3 chips off Bron:jbhmm: MJ dominated his era better than Bron did this era.
You basically prove my point that Bron went against better players, lol. Bron did took a ring from Durant, Curry, and Kwahi Leonard. Losing to those players doesn't hurt Bron credibility because those players were part of a dynastic team.
 

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Did MJ get a chance to go up against KD who destroyed Bron in back to back finals or Steph who got 3 chips off Bron:jbhmm: MJ dominated his era better than Bron did this era.

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And MJ would be remembered as Russell Westbrook without Scottie Pippen


Y'all nikkaz be overrwting this nikka and it is obvious.
A lot of you were not fully cognitive to watch mj.
Let alone pip play frfr.

nikkaz let the mythos of the phantom foul.
Become more than the fiasco it was.
Then suffer from that spiraling out of control downhill.
Into this nonfactual account of scottie when mj came back.
Plus likes to continually act as though.
scottie never even self admittedly schluped't it those last three titles.
Plus it made scottie soft. He still was never able to beat phil minus mike with less resources.
While scottie had a full deck.

If that nikka do not stop it.
You had to ramp as a naia player scottie.
Mike was already mike freshie year in the ncaa's.
Plus was actualized as a pro at the first tipoff of his first pro anything.


Scottie seems to forget. He would never even have a shoe.
To live on via marketing in this day and age if not for mike.
He would still be in avia.
Completely forgotten about.
Plus would never have ramped to be an All-Star game MVP level player as well.

nikka scottie still be conceited supa tweak'n.


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You know it burns him to hear it. What gets him is how the management and professional analytics community sees Bron as GOAT and it pisses him off. Sure ESPN, nikkas in the league especially from his era and nikkas on thecoli see him as GOAT but he wants unanimous selection
And that’s how you know MJ is petty. Because even in the analytics community it’s like 50/50 between Bron and Jordan on who really is the goat. It’s not even unanimously LeBron just yet. A lot of the advanced metrics and analytics still point to MJ potentially being the greatest of all time. I follow this one popular analytics channel who ranked the greatest players of all time at their peaks. It’s called the greatest peak series. And the channel had MJ ranked number 1 all time slightly ahead of Bron. But it’s not enough. It’ll never be enough. :wow:
 

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Mike played in a substantially less competitive era...

Regardless, in Bron's career 2003-present:

•no one else won more than 3 total championships (Duncan, Steph, Wade); Bron has 4

•no one else won more than 2 chips as the best player on their team (Duncan, Kobe, KD); Bron has twice that at 4

•no one else won more than 2 MVPs (Nash, Steph, Giannis); Bron has twice that with 4

•no one else has more than 9 Top 5 MVP finishes (Kobe); Bron has 13

•no one else won more than 2 FMVPs (Kobe, KD, Kawhi); Bron has twice that with 4

•no one else has more than 5 (Steph, Wade) appearances in the championship round; Bron has twice as many with 10

•no one else has more than 9 1st Team All-NBAs (Kobe); Bron has 13

•no one else has more than 10 total All-NBAs (Kobe, CP3); Bron has 17

..........

All objective criteria says Bron has dominated his era, 18+ years 2003-present, essentially twice as much as whoever you think the next closest guy is. You can dance around it however you choose but everything we use to attach value and assign greatness to players, Bron has done it more and better than anyone else whose career overlapped with his, though I'm sure now you'll find a way to say any of these measures aren't what we use to substantiate credibility of greatness to guys lol...

You a real hater...
Spoken like someone who hasn’t watched Jordan play in real time.
 

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Y'all nikkaz be overrwting this nikka and it is obvious.
A lot of you were not fully cognitive to watch mj.
Let alone pip play frfr.

nikkaz let the mythos of the phantom foul.
Become more than the fiasco it was.
Then suffer from that spiraling out of control downhill.
Into this nonfactual account of scottie when mj came back.
Plus likes to continually act as though.
scottie never even self admittedly schluped't it those last three titles.
Plus it made scottie soft. He still was never able to beat phil minus mike with less resources.
While scottie had a full deck.

If that nikka do not stop it.
You had to ramp as a naia player scottie.
Mike was already mike freshie year in the ncaa's.
Plus was actualized as a pro at the first tipoff of his first pro anything.


Scottie seems to forget. He would never even have a shoe.
To live on via marketing in this day and age if not for mike.
He would still be in avia.
Completely forgotten about.
Plus would never have ramped to be an All-Star game MVP level player as well.

nikka scottie still be conceited supa tweak'n.


Art Barr
U can tell these nikkas ain’t watch MJ play so they think the nikka being that good is a myth. Lol
 

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Mike played in a substantially less competitive era...

Regardless, in Bron's career 2003-present:

•no one else won more than 3 total championships (Duncan, Steph, Wade); Bron has 4

•no one else won more than 2 chips as the best player on their team (Duncan, Kobe, KD); Bron has twice that at 4

•no one else won more than 2 MVPs (Nash, Steph, Giannis); Bron has twice that with 4

•no one else has more than 9 Top 5 MVP finishes (Kobe); Bron has 13

•no one else won more than 2 FMVPs (Kobe, KD, Kawhi); Bron has twice that with 4

•no one else has more than 5 (Steph, Wade) appearances in the championship round; Bron has twice as many with 10

•no one else has more than 9 1st Team All-NBAs (Kobe); Bron has 13

•no one else has more than 10 total All-NBAs (Kobe, CP3); Bron has 17

..........

All objective criteria says Bron has dominated his era, 18+ years 2003-present, essentially twice as much as whoever you think the next closest guy is. You can dance around it however you choose but everything we use to attach value and assign greatness to players, Bron has done it more and better than anyone else whose career overlapped with his, though I'm sure now you'll find a way to say any of these measures aren't what we use to substantiate credibility of greatness to guys lol...

You a real hater...
No doubt Bron has dominated this era and those carefully curated accomplishments/accolades are impressive but MJ was still more impressive and did it in less time in his era. I’m not going to waste time and list any of MJ’s accomplishments/accolades. At this point, Bron is running a marathon kind of like Kareem while MJ was more like Usain Bolt, same sport different game.
 
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