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So one of you is claiming that the public opinion is different, while the other one is giving examples of the media doing the exact same shyt ya'all are doing.

A woman makes a rape accusation, then her entire life is dug into and any dirt at all is brought up. And you wonder why women don't make accusations.

If a woman has ever caught a case, or has ever taken money for sex, then apparently Cosby can do what he wants with them and no one will believe .the girl. Makes it pretty easy to pick out vulnerable victims then, doesn't it - you just target the girls of "questionable character" that you know no one is going to believe.

And this was TWO women out of more than 40. Yet not only are you not going to believe them, you're going to use them to accuse the other 40+ women of all the same shyt too.

You're moving goalposts. You asked for reciepts and i provided them. And the first linked talked about 5 of the women with criminal and shady past.

If all you require is 40+ people recanting a similar story with no real evidence to believe something then i guess you believe in alien abductions, Bigfoot, the lochness monster, and ghost.
 

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You're moving goalposts. You asked for reciepts and i provided them. And the first linked talked about 5 of the women with criminal and shady past.

5 out of 40! You pull any random group of 40 people, you're going to find 5 who had done some shyt at some point in their lives. How the hell would you pick out 40 women at random and get 40 that were all completely and utterly clean? Then you'd know that the whole shyt was a setup, because that's not possible.

The fact that 5 out of forty women had someone pay them for sex once or had some other shyt happen at some point in their 50+ years on Earth doesn't invalidate the stories of the other 35 women or allow you to say that "every single one of them" is a ho, a prostitute, and a criminal. Hell, it doesn't even invalidate their own story, especially when their stories match 35 women who have never done such things.



If all you require is 40+ people recanting a similar story with no real evidence to believe something then i guess you believe in alien abductions, Bigfoot, the lochness monster, and ghost.

:why::mjlol:

I hope you try that when you catch a case. "It's just like an alien abduction sir. It's just a national rash of 'people think I raped them' sightings that happen to all involve women who passed through my life. Uh, I must just be running into a lot of crazy bytches, sir."

You get 5 eyewitnesses against you, you fukked. Plenty of people have been convicted off of a single credible witness. And you won't believe forty?

Forty different witnesses who didn't know each other.

Not to mention that the D.A. said that Cosby's own testimony was sketch and he sounded guilty as hell.

Not to mention that there are receipts proving that Cosby was illegally getting the drugs over a long period of time.

Not to mention that he wasn't fukking using those drugs on himself.

Not to mention that there are people backing up that many of these women told them about what had happened when it happened, before they had heard about the other cases.

Not to mention that you have Cosby's own employees corroborating on his modus operandi.


But go ahead, keep caping for him. :scust:
 
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Here's the demonstrated shyt that happens to you when you accuse a popular, powerful man of rape, even when you have 40 other people backing you up.

People call you a liar (Will Ross, agnosticlady, General Mills, thaKAEF, Cabbage Patch, ReturnofJudah, DinoCan, KingFreeman, itsyoung!!!, Getinthetruck, Maas Darko, Din0can, pickles, StillNotSoft, 3rd World, Nigerianwonder, and more)

People call you a whore, ho, slut, thot, prostitute etc. (God's Favorite Son, General Mills, Hiei, Master Teacher, pickles, Mowgli, Cabbage Patch, KingFreeman, Din0can, Nigerianwonder)

I don't believe whores who wait decades to tell what happened to them.
I'm pretty sure most of these broads been passed around Hollywood and unlike kim Kardashian of today, they couldn't capitalized off of it
I have no doubt Bill was dikking down broads. They are coming there to get dikked down.
Once a ho always a ho.. Every single one these supposed "victims" were groupies, escorts, and playboy "models" who slept with Cosby voluntarily to further their career.
The fact that they was aspiring actresses/models tells me they most likely would do anything to get fame. So if a dude wanted them to be drugged why they had sex they would do it.
We label them prostitutes and criminals cause that's what they are.



People say you're only looking for money or fame (MGM, Harry B, Adidacs, Master Teacher, newworldafro, nigerianwonder, agnosticlady, mysticmonroe, g33kn4sty)

MOST of them willingly had sex with Cosby for money and thinking that they would get fame. How you can sit there lie and say that someone raped you is beyond my understanding.



People care more about your physical appearance than the fact that someone raped you, yet one more chance to get judged just because you're a female (2stainz, pickles, AAKing23, semtex, thaKaef, BlackieRobinson, KingFreeman, StrawHatLuffy, Scientific Player)

He had to pill these Frankenstein bytches?
Waking up to an older white wife must be some horror movie shyt
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them bytches look sick too.



Some of those comments are getting 40/50/60 likes too. Yeah, going forward against the guy who raped you really makes for a fun day.
 
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Can't believe I didn't see this already, but the D.A. actually thought Cosby DID do it. He just didn't think he had enough evidence to get a conviction on him:



So she went to the cops, couldn't remember everything because she was fukking drugged when it happened, D.A. knows Cosby is guilty, and it still doesn't do her any good.

But I'm sure you don't believe the D.A. either, right?

Do i believe what this D.A has to say in hindsight under scrutiny,in an attempt to make himself look better?No not really?

But even if you take him at his word which may be true,fact is the womens claims werent ignored like you said:sas1:...they were investigated and not enuff evidence was found:manny:

and have you bothered explaining away the money these women accepted from their rapist?the gifts and payments?have you bothered explaining them coming back for more rapes later on?or are you still dancing around it like the previois two times i asked:sas1:?
 
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Do i believe what this D.A has to say in hindsight under scrutiny,in an attempt to make himself look better?No not really?

Like many things the women have claimed, the D.A. has a huge witness trail behind him. He didn't make the decision to not charge Bill Cosby in a little room by himself. If he's lying about having thought Cosby was guilty, there's plenty of other people who were in on that decision who could call him out on it.



But even if you take him at his word which may be true,fact is the womens claims werent ignored like you said:sas1:...they were investigated and not enuff evidence was found:manny:

What kind of fukking goalposts are you moving around now?

You said, "i would say MAYBE the D.A saw it looked like bullshyt too..." I proved that you were dead wrong, and you don't want to admit it?

I said that it made sense that many of the women didn't go public, because a lot of times you go public, take all the L's, and still nothing comes out of it. I was proven right.

Numerous people on this thread have said, "Why didn't a single one of these women go to the authorities until 2015 - they must all be lying!" They were proven wrong.

Numerous people on this thread have said, "If he was guilty the D.A. would have charged him in a heartbeat because he's Black. D.A. didn't charge so he must not be guilty." They were proven wrong.



and have you bothered explaining away the money these women accepted from their rapist?the gifts and payments?

Yes, I explained that about 3 pages back with something like 8 linked examples of rapists and abusers giving their victims gifts or paying them off after the abuse. Two of the links describe the psychology of why rapists and abusers like to pull that game to manipulate their victims.



have you bothered explaining them coming back for more rapes later on?or are you still dancing around it like the previois two times i asked:sas1:?

Have you ever known anyone who stayed in an abusive relationship, even after getting the shyt beat out of her?

Have you ever known someone that got the shyt beat out of them by their own gang, yet stayed in the gang?

Have you ever known anyone who was repeatedly sexually harassed at work, but stayed on the job?

Have you ever known anyone who was date raped by their boyfriend, but got back together with him at a later point?

If you really aren't aware that that shyt happens, you live under a rock. In an unbalanced power dynamic, abused/assalted victims frequently fail to completely cut ties with their abuser. A study of college students showed that 23% of sexual assault victims had been assaulted more than once - primarily in date-rape or unbalanced power-dynamic (teacher/coach/boss) scenarios.


In this thread, the ONLY example of that anyone has named of that is one women who says she was raped twice, two years apart. She was an aspiring actress and Cosby was paying for her acting lessons, which is how he found her the second time. Back in 1970, people didn't even talk about date rape and "sexual harassment" wasn't even a word yet. It wasn't even considered a "real rape" unless it was the classic, "Stranger held a knife to her throat and forced himself on me." Some cavemen still think that's the only "real" rape. It's not surprising to me in the least that one of the vulnerable women Cosby targeted wouldn't have stopped the acting lessons because she blamed herself and didn't know what to do next.
 

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Like many things the women have claimed, the D.A. has a huge witness trail behind him. He didn't make the decision to not charge Bill Cosby in a little room by himself. If he's lying about having thought Cosby was guilty, there's plenty of other people who were in on that decision who could call him out on it.





What kind of fukking goalposts are you moving around now?

You said, "i would say MAYBE the D.A saw it looked like bullshyt too..." I proved that you were dead wrong, and you don't want to admit it?

I said that it made sense that many of the women didn't go public, because a lot of times you go public, take all the L's, and still nothing comes out of it. I was proven right.

Numerous people on this thread have said, "Why didn't a single one of these women go to the authorities until 2015 - they must all be lying!" They were proven wrong.

Numerous people on this thread have said, "If he was guilty the D.A. would have charged him in a heartbeat because he's Black. D.A. didn't charge so he must not be guilty." They were proven wrong.





Yes, I explained that about 3 pages back with something like 8 linked examples of rapists and abusers giving their victims gifts or paying them off after the abuse. Two of the links describe the psychology of why rapists and abusers like to pull that game to manipulate their victims.





Have you ever known anyone who stayed in an abusive relationship, even after getting the shyt beat out of her?

Have you ever known someone that got the shyt beat out of them by their own gang, yet stayed in the gang?

Have you ever known anyone who was repeatedly sexually harassed at work, but stayed on the job?

Have you ever known anyone who was date raped by their boyfriend, but got back together with him at a later point?

If you really aren't aware that that shyt happens, you live under a rock. In an unbalanced power dynamic, abused/assalted victims frequently fail to completely cut ties with their abuser. A study of college students showed that 23% of sexual assault victims had been assaulted more than once - primarily in date-rape or unbalanced power-dynamic (teacher/coach/boss) scenarios.


In this thread, the ONLY example of that anyone has named of that is one women who says she was raped twice, two years apart. She was an aspiring actress and Cosby was paying for her acting lessons, which is how he found her the second time. Back in 1970, people didn't even talk about date rape and "sexual harassment" wasn't even a word yet. It wasn't even considered a "real rape" unless it was the classic, "Stranger held a knife to her throat and forced himself on me." Some cavemen still think that's the only "real" rape. It's not surprising to me in the least that one of the vulnerable women Cosby targeted wouldn't have stopped the acting lessons because she blamed herself and didn't know what to do next.

You only gave an example of one DA and one case,earlier in the thread you named multiple times where women came foward but were "ignored"....my point has been proven by YOU that the women werent ignored...and the DA can have a damn hunch if he wants to that Cosby was guilty,but thats not how the system works....he obviously had no evidence if he couldnt bring charges...so fukk what he "believes"...Pretty sure you know the definition of belief...and im pretty sure you know of many cases where DA's and cops "believed" somebody did something,and still believe it after a person is found not guilty:mjlol:

And why r u tellin me about abusers buying gifts?i asked you about the so called victims who accepted these cash payments and gifts,used Bill Cosby on they resumes:dahell:?


And u sound ridiculous now breh,So you tellin me these women went back for seconds and took another pill from Cosby even though the last time it knocked them out and he raped them:laff:?they blamed themselves so much they couldnt say "no thank you Bill:whoa:"....Nah according to you they just decided to take the pill and allow Bill to rape them again:francis:.
 

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Nobody is saying he did not rape 1 or 2 women. Many are saying that 20+ women is ridiculous and has not been proven.

Thank you, I'm not giving him a pass but 40 women!?!?...40 women is a lot for people to digest. People really think he's the most prolific rapist of our era? I'm just not buying it.
 

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How naive are these bytches though?

Ol'boy puts a pill in your drink in front of you and you are like :manny: "let me drink this, it is only Bill Cosby"

:why:

Not once but multiple times:comeon:

But apparently its normal for victims to be given a pill that knocks them to be raped,to come back to the rapist house and take the same pill again:troll:

"Bu bu but they took it again because sometimes the victim blames themselves yall:whoa:"
 

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You only gave an example of one DA and one case,earlier in the thread you named multiple times where women came foward but were "ignored"....

Yes, the other one was in 2000.



my point has been proven by YOU that the women werent ignored...and the DA can have a damn hunch if he wants to that Cosby was guilty,but thats not how the system works....he obviously had no evidence if he couldnt bring charges...so fukk what he "believes"...Pretty sure you know the definition of belief...and im pretty sure you know of many cases where DA's and cops "believed" somebody did something,and still believe it after a person is found not guilty:mjlol:

Your point has been "proven"? What the hell point was that? I already listed how every substantial point that you claimed was actually false, and mine were correct...are you just trying to play an internet argument game about whether the word "ignored" applies or not?

And when you thought the D.A. thought Cosby was innocent, the D.A.'s opinion was important to you. "Maybe the D.A. saw that it was bullshyt too". But now that you find the D.A. thought Cosby was guilty, all the sudden the D.A.'s opinion is meaningless? Keep twisting in the win, little hypocrit?


And why r u tellin me about abusers buying gifts?i asked you about the so called victims who accepted these cash payments and gifts,used Bill Cosby on they resumes:dahell:?

You apparently haven't read the links if you don't understand it yet. You're not making an argument against rape, you're just using yet another decades-old victim-blaming strategy that's been proven meaningless over and over again.


And u sound ridiculous now breh,So you tellin me these women went back for seconds and took another pill from Cosby even though the last time it knocked them out and he raped them:laff:?they blamed themselves so much they couldnt say "no thank you Bill:whoa:"....Nah according to you they just decided to take the pill and allow Bill to rape them again:francis:.

You still keep bringing up ONE 18-year-old girl as if that applies to the other 40 women. And again, if you don't understand how that shyt applies to hundreds of rape victims, get yourself educated.



Thank you, I'm not giving him a pass but 40 women!?!?...40 women is a lot for people to digest. People really think he's the most prolific rapist of our era? I'm just not buying it.

Did you not read the thread? Jimmy Savile the British DJ had 435 victims! The average rapist in jail has 11 victims, and they usually haven't had 40 years of free reign before they get caught. If you found that he had raped 5 victims in 5 years, would that sound unlikely? So after he got away with it the first 5 times, how the hell does 40 times in 40 years become unreasonable?
 

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If this were happening to some Hispanic or Asian dude with the exact same power and influence as Cosby, most of ya'all wouldn't doubt for a second that he was guilty. The lengths you're going to to try to excuse him are just ridiculous.

"But but but it's not possible to rape 30-40 people! He did five at most!" Ignoring that he did it over 40 years and there have been plenty of serial rapists who raped dozens or even hundreds of people. Ignoring that Jimmy Savile got away with sexually assaulting 435 people and didn't catch anything before he died.
This whole story of full of complete shyt. Cosby raped 35 women? What type of bullshyt is this? I can understand 5 at the most (I am not saying that it is right), but 35? No, this is complete bullshyt.
I don't think he raped all those women. Probably 5



"But but but I won't believe it unless there's even more accusers! He must have been raping girls as a teenager too!" Ignoring that plenty of rapists start later in life, and Cosby didn't have a position of power with which to take advantage of women until the late 1960s.
He had to have started somewhere with the deviant behavior. Where is the classmate in H.S. or the female relative saying how he was a deviant as a young man/child? :dwillhuh:He just doesn't sudden get this deviant behavior in his 30s as he gets older.:mjpls:



"But none of the women came forward until now!" Ignoring that fifteen women did come forward more than 10 years ago, and multiple reported to the authorities, and nothing happened. Ignoring that many of these women have been talking to multiple people about it for years.
He's actually accused of drugging more than 45 women, and not one NOT ONE of the close to 50 women came forward until now :comeon:



"But it's not possible to rape someone twice!" Ignoring that that happens in date-rape and work-rape and other power dynamic-based sexual assault situations all the time.



"But no powerful Black man in the 1960s or 1970s ever raped a White woman! It's not possible! There's no way any no-name aspiring actress in the pre-feminism era would have failed to report a date rape to the police if it involved four-time Emmy winner and multimillionaire Bill Cosby!" Ignoring that date rape was completely ignored in the 1960s and 1970s and wasn't even considered "rape" yet (some Coli comments say they don't even consider it rape now), ignoring that "sexual harrassment" in the workplace wasn't even a named thing yet, and ignoring that Bill Cosby was literally one of the most powerful actors on television and had plenty of power in the industry because he made money and the public loved him.
So Cosby raped a white woman in 1969 and got away with it ?

Yeah right



"But if these women really meant it, they would turn in their coke supplier too! And report murder charges!" Ignoring that that's the worst excuse I've ever heard.
So when i read this article its gonna talk about all the other indictments and charges that these women are responsible for bringing forth on people other than cosby. Or was their life a fairly tale?

Was their any involvement in drugs and illegal sex w/out bill Cosby?

Surely they are coming clean about everything. Surely they are responsible for sending multiple dealers to jail in the 60s and 70s. Because unlike rape its no emotions to overcome in reporting other criminal activity.
Wait. So what if they know about murders? what about the dudes who supply cosby with this horrible horrible drug he used to destroy these womens lives? They shouldnt want that person in jail?



"But but but if he really was guilty, he would have raped Claire Huxtable too! True rapists rape everyone around them!" Ignoring that no one in their right mind would make that argument.
Cosby has a on/off switch for the rape urge? Prime Ms. Rashad and Lisa Bonet on the set, but nothing happened?



And then all the crazy conspiracy theories, every one of which ignores that many of the women involved have been telling people about this shyt for decades and reporting it since 15 years ago.
He tried to buy NBC. Since then, these fake allegations have came out, his shows removed from sindication and his money slowed up.
Cosby really pissed off the wrong people....
damn the jews have zero respect for yall intelligence
the man is obviously being railroaded, these thots are being put up to this by powerful people and their stories contradict themselves all they wanna do is ruin bill cosby's name which they have done, this magazine is just trying to sell some copies because their industry is dying
 
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Someone posted this story on The Coli a good EIGHT MONTHS ago, but ya'all ignored it (or seemed to forget, because most of the claims you're making are countered right here). It answers most of the ridiculous excuses you've been making for Cosby's behavior. Women DID try to report this shyt when it happened, decades ago, and couldn't get shyt to happen because Bill Cosby is Bill Cosby.



Bill Cosby raped me. Why did it take 30 years for people to believe my story?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...ars-for-people-to-believe-my-story/?tid=sm_fb

In 2004, when Andrea Constand filed a lawsuit against Bill Cosby for sexual assault, her lawyers asked me to testify. Cosby had drugged and raped me, too, I told them. The lawyers said I could testify anonymously as a Jane Doe, but I ardently rejected that idea. My name is not Jane Doe. My name is Barbara Bowman, and I wanted to tell my story in court. In the end, I didn’t have the opportunity to do that, because Cosby settled the suit for an undisclosed amount of money.

Over the years, I’ve struggled to get people to take my story seriously. So last month, when reporter Lycia Naff contacted me for an interview for the Daily Mail, I gave her a detailed account. I told her how Cosby won my trust as a 17-year-old aspiring actress in 1985, brainwashed me into viewing him as a father figure, and then assaulted me multiple times. In one case, I blacked out after having dinner and one glass of wine at his New York City brownstone, where he had offered to mentor me and discuss the entertainment industry. When I came to, I was in my panties and a man’s t-shirt, and Cosby was looming over me. I’m certain now that he drugged and raped me. But as a teenager, I tried to convince myself I had imagined it. I even tried to rationalize it: Bill Cosby was going to make me a star and this was part of the deal. The final incident was in Atlantic City, where we had traveled for industry event. I was staying in a separate bedroom of Cosby’s hotel suite, but he pinned me down in his own bed while I screamed for help. I’ll never forget the clinking of his belt buckle as he struggled to pull his pants off. I furiously tried to wrestle from his grasp until he eventually gave up, angrily called me “a baby” and sent me home to Denver.

Back then, the incident was so horrifying that I had trouble admitting it to myself, let alone to others. But I first told my agent, who did nothing. (Cosby sometimes came to her office to interview people for “The Cosby Show” and other acting jobs.) A girlfriend took me to a lawyer, but he accused me of making the story up. Their dismissive responses crushed any hope I had of getting help; I was convinced no one would listen to me. That feeling of futility is what ultimately kept me from going to the police. I told friends what had happened, and although they sympathized with me, they were just as helpless to do anything about it. I was a teenager from Denver acting in McDonald’s commercials. He was Bill Cosby: consummate American dad Cliff Huxtable and the Jell-O spokesman. Eventually, I had to move on with my life and my career.

I didn’t stay entirely quiet, though: I’ve been telling my story publicly for nearly 10 years. When Constand brought her lawsuit, I found renewed confidence. I was determined to not be silent any more. In 2006, I was interviewed by Robert Huber for Philadelphia Magazine, and Alycia Lane for KYW-TV news in Philadelphia. A reporter wrote about my experience in the December 2006 issue of People Magazine. And last February, Katie Baker interviewed me for Newsweek. Bloggers and columnists wrote about that story for several months after it was published. Still, my complaint didn’t seem to take hold.

Only after a man, Hannibal Buress, called Bill Cosby a rapist in a comedy act last month did the public outcry begin in earnest. The original video of Buress’s performance went viral. This week, Twitter turned against him, too, with a meme that emblazoned rape scenarios across pictures of his face.

While I am grateful for the new attention to Cosby’s crimes, I must ask my own questions: Why wasn’t I believed? Why didn’t I get the same reaction of shock and revulsion when I originally reported it? Why was I, a victim of sexual assault, further wronged by victim blaming when I came forward? The women victimized by Bill Cosby have been talking about his crimes for more than a decade. Why didn’t our stories go viral?

Unfortunately, our experience isn’t unique. The entertainment world is rife with famous men who use their power to victimize and then silence young women who look up to them. Even when their victims speak out, the industry and the public turn blind eyes; these men’s celebrity, careers, and public adulation continue to thrive. Even now, Cosby has a new comedy special coming out on Netflix and NBC is set to give him a new sitcom.

Fixing this problem demands more than public shaming. For Cosby to commit these assaults against multiple victims over several years, there had to be a network of willfully blind wallflowers at best, or people willing to aid him in committing these sexual crimes at worst. As I told the Daily Mail, when I was a teenager, his assistants transported me to hotels and events to meet him. When I blacked out at Cosby’s home, there were several staffers with us. My agent, who introduced me to Cosby, had me take a pregnancy test when I returned from my last trip with him. Talent agents, hotel staff, personal assistants and others who knowingly made arrangements for Cosby’s criminal acts or overlooked them should be held equally accountable.

I have never received any money from Bill Cosby and have not asked for it. I have nothing to gain by continuing to speak out. He can no longer be charged for his crimes against me because the statute of limitations is long past. That is also wrong. There should be no time limits on reporting these crimes, and one of my goals is to call for legislation to that end. Famous and wealthy perpetrators use their power to shame and silence their victims. It often takes years for young women to overcome those feeling and gain the confidence to come forward (by which point physical evidence is long gone). Our legal system shouldn’t silence them a second time.

Last week, I became a volunteer ambassador for PAVE (Promoting Awareness, Victim Empowerment), a national victim advocacy group that seeks to shatter the silence around sexual violence through targeted social, educational and legislative tactics. I will be writing and traveling the country talking to media, students and other interested groups about the importance of speaking out against sexual assault. I’ll largely focus on young models and actors who are especially vulnerable to the influences of the rich and powerful. They, like other sexual assault victims, deserve our support. It’s the perpetrators who should be facing public humiliation – not the victims.

Editor’s note: A representative for Bill Cosby did not return multiple calls and e-mails from Washington Post staff for comment on this piece. Elsewhere, Cosby repeatedly denied separate sexual-assault allegations by Andrea Constand.

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