Pill Cosby's "Victims" on New York Magazine Cover

[Cynical Thoughts]

What da fukk random-ass excuses are you people coming up with now?

Why da hell would any of these women feel like throwing their coke connection in the slammer all the sudden?

You realize that a woman might be slightly more violated and victimized by her rapist than by somebody who set her up with some powder?

And you got really creative to imply that you won't believe them unless they start accusing other guys of rape too. Because that certainly wouldn't lead to ya'all calling them sluts/prostitutes/golddiggers.



At least you were creative. For everyone else the defense has basically boiled down to, "He's Black, couldn't have done it."

Cosby was my absolute favorite guy in the 1980s. I loved the Cosby Show and I loved Fat Albert reruns. I used to brag about how every standup guy in the business said they looked to Cosby as the great who had inspired them. But come on now. When ya'all going to realize that the life of an extremely wealthy, beloved, powerful Black man, one who is propping up Hollywood and getting propped up by them, isn't the same as your life?

Wait. So what if they know about murders? what about the dudes who supply cosby with this horrible horrible drug he used to destroy these womens lives? They shouldnt want that person in jail?

Im not being creative. I believe a prostitute can be raped but at the same time she got to incriminate herself. All these females got something to gain now.

It took them this long to come out cause of their "feelings" why not also wage a war against the dealers who supply said drug. Im just looking at it from the many angles that these slick females and media ignore to attack someone who they didnt want to attack years ago.

Whats the number for these women to feel comfortable calling cosby a rapist. 15, 17 it obviously had to be more than 10. It takes 25 women to come forward for one to get the courage to accuse cosby of rape?

What women rape victim/accuser have ever been criticized in the media?

over dosing on powder<knowingly taking a popular drug before sex w/ a man you have done it with before.

 

[Cynical Thoughts]

So what you're saying is, your alias is @agnosticlady?

Sure buddy.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

This is the coli where rape victims are sluts who deserved it.

Yup. And none of them have been able to give a single example of evidence that would convince them otherwise. If you accuse Bill Cosby of rape, you're a dirty ugly used-up bytch, a slut, a prostitute, a golddigger, and a liar. Doesn't matter how much collaboration you have, how many years you've been telling people about it, or how little evidence there is that you have pulled any of that other shyt they're calling you. You're assumed guilty, because you're a woman and he's Cosby.

What's funny is that the bytches who fukked JFK and Clinton both talked, and they weren't worried about some agency taking them out on some covert shyt.....but Bill Cosby is a fukkin comedian...Don Cosby gonna put these bytches to sleep with the fishes unless they keep quiet I guess.

Where do you get that argument from? You know what a "straw man" is? Ain't NO ONE suggested that Cosby or anyone else is going to take them out.

The problem with accusing someone like Cosby of rape is that they immediately get labeled as a "rape victim", they get ashamed and embarrassed in public, they got half the world now believing that they're sluts, prostitutes, golddiggers, liars, etc., their career in the industry is likely fukked, and the D.A. ain't likely to do anything anyway. Cosby is "protected" by the industry in that his public image is protected and anyone coming out against him was going to catch mad flack.

Who accused JFK of rape? There was some young intern that he was having sex with, but she never came forward. There were other women who had affairs with him, but none of them came forward until 30 years later. And you probably forget that Lewinsky didn't come forward publicly against Clinton either, it's was a set-up where a friend secretly recorded her admitting and then went public. One woman accused Clinton of sexual harassment, but the judge dropped the case immediately because she "hadn't suffered damages". No one else came out until the Lewinsky trial, and they all just said sex, not rape.

None of those women had as much to lose from mentioning affairs with Clinton/JFK as women in the entertainment industry had to lose by telling the whole world that Cosby raped them. And yet, just like the Cosby women, they still didn't come out because they had way more to lose than gain by going public. You keep proving the case for them.

 

[Concerning VIolence]

If you accuse Bill Cosby of rape, you're a dirty ugly used-up bytch, a slut, a prostitute, a golddigger, and a liar. Doesn't matter how much collaboration you have, how many years you've been telling people about it, or how little evidence there is that you have pulled any of that other shyt they're calling you. You're assumed guilty, because you're a woman and he's Cosby.

Complete opposite in the public opinion.

 

[Nigerianwonder]

Yup. And none of them have been able to give a single example of evidence that would convince them otherwise. If you accuse Bill Cosby of rape, you're a dirty ugly used-up bytch, a slut, a prostitute, a golddigger, and a liar. Doesn't matter how much collaboration you have, how many years you've been telling people about it, or how little evidence there is that you have pulled any of that other shyt they're calling you. You're assumed guilty, because you're a woman and he's Cosby

The problem with accusing someone like Cosby of rape is that they immediately get labeled as a "rape victim", they get ashamed and embarrassed in public, they got half the world now believing that they're sluts, prostitutes, golddiggers, liars, etc., their career in the industry is likely fukked, and the D.A. ain't likely to do anything anyway. Cosby is "protected" by the industry in that his public image is protected and anyone coming out against him was going to catch mad shyt, not that someone is pulling out hits or some dumb shyt.

We label them prostitutes and criminals cause that's what they are. And there is hard evidence and criminal convictions to back that up. There is no evidence to back up their claims against Cosby though. Here are a few examples of his accusers. These are facts.

Some Cosby rape accusers have shady background
Chelan Lasha
"Lasha has a long criminal record that includes prostitution, theft, false reporting assault, disorderly conduct, weapon possession and criminal trespass."

Bill Cosby Accuser Goes to Police. Could He Face Criminal Charges? - Inside Edition
Chloe Goins
"Goins wasn't talking today, but her credibility has been called into question since she works as an exotic dancer in Las Vegas. In 2011, she was arrested for prostitution,"

None of those women had as much to lose from mentioning affairs with Clinton/JFK as women in the entertainment industry had to lose by telling the whole world that Cosby raped them. And yet, just like the Cosby women, they still didn't come out because they had way more to lose than gain by going public. You keep proving the case for them.

These chicks were never in the industry. They never had careers. They have nothing to loose and a whole lot of money and fame to gain. They are getting rich just giving interviews. Plus by being a "victim" they get to sanitize their shady backgrounds.

If hard evidence is not the standard you use to determine the validity of an allegation then what exactly is your standard? Any one who took a picture with Cosby in 1960 can come up with story if thats the case and their claim is just as valid as the others without any evidence.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

R. Kelly was guilty, MJ was a pedo and OJ is guilty...so there goes your notion that I'm caping for all black celebs.

R. Kelly never went to jail.
Michael Jackson never went to jail.
OJ never went to jail.

So there goes the argument that Black men automatically catch sentences when they get accused of shyt. Powerful, wealthy men don't play by the same rules the rest of us have to play by. And that's even though Michael Jackson is the only one of those three that was even close to as popular as Cosby, and he didn't have the beloved squeaky-clean image that Cosby had.

You keep saying "what accusations were before the 60s?" He had to have started somewhere with the deviant behavior. Where is the classmate in H.S. or the female relative saying how he was a deviant as a young man/child? He just doesn't sudden get this deviant behavior in his 30s as he gets older.

Damn, ya'all just coming and coming with the ridiculous excuses.

You arguing that he definitely would have caught a charge if he'd been doing this in the 1960s, and then you use the fact that there aren't any cases before 1969 as some sort of evidence that he never did it? You don't think he could have held off on behavior that would get him thrown in the slammer and waited until he knew he could get away with it?

Every single one of his rapes is an abuse of power situation. How was Cosby going to pull off that shyt when he was a teenager with no power? It's not coincidence that the first case we're hearing about is 1969...right after Cosby had started his own production company, own label, was running his own shyt on his own property, came out with a show in his own name for the first time, and was popular as hell coming off four straight Emmys. You really don't think that men with power sometimes let that power get to their head and start doing shyt and taking advantage of that power in a way that they couldn't do when they didn't have power?

Cosby has a on/off switch for the rape urge? Prime Ms. Rashad and Lisa Bonet on the set, but nothing happened?

You have no fukking clue how rapists work, do you? Now the excuse is, "if he didn't rape every woman that walked around him, must not have raped any"??? The women he took advantage of were no-namers who had no power and who he could easily take advantage of, not major co-stars.

There's something not right about this. This is a systematic destruction. If all this is true, doesnt this make Bill Cosby a record breaking rapist?

I'm struggling to believe that not a single one of those women agreed to have sex with Bill.

Who the hell ever asked you to believe that? If one or two of these women are lying and just jumped on the bandwagon with the accusations, would that change the substance of the story at all? Why are you still focusing on the women, just searching for a way to shyt on the women, instead of focusing on the actual rapist in the story?

why wont you respond to these women taking payments and gifts,and multiple stories of them going back for more "rape"?how many ridiculous claims does it take for you to question the credibility of alot of these women?or is no story to ridiculous for you to believe

How does refusing to bring charges mean the DA ignored it just because they didnt bring charges? I dont know the details of each of these cases to say it didnt deserve to get thrown out.

But based on the papertrail and the fact many of these women were taking payments and gifts from Cosby....Along with continuing to visit with Cosby,i would say MAYBE the D.A saw it looked like bullshyt too...But not The Dankster you believe it must be true because a bunch of women said so....All you proved is what can happen when pay a bytch off and the other women youve been fukking for free feel shortchanged

Read the stories. The vast majority of the women didn't "continue to visit" Cosby or "go back for more rape". There were like two women in the whole group that were raped more than once. And they weren't just voluntarily hanging with him in a no-pressure situation - they fukking worked there. And do you actually believe that no victim ever goes back to her abuser, even though that shyt's been proven over and over again?

And now you're saying that if they take money, then they were getting paid off and must not have been raped. And if they didn't take money, then they're just bitter and feel shortchanged. So you're still admitting that no matter what the scenario, whether the woman took money or not, you automatically believe Cosby over the women, just because.

You don't think a powerful man can give women money to keep their mouth shut, and then say to them, "You tell anyone, and I'll show them these gifts and they'll just think you're a slut and a golddigger." You haven't heard about shyt like that happening from victimized women all the time? Abused women get "gifts" from their abusers all the time, and take it because what the fukk else are they going to do? That's a major tactic, because they like to fukk up the girl's psychology that way - it makes them more likely to blame themselves and less likely to go to the cops, and gives them a nice little alibi for ignorant people like you, "Look, she took my gift, I must not have raped her". That shyt happens all the time with proven abusers, and you're actually going to use it as evidence that they're lying?

Which one of the stories isn't credible. Tell me the exact story that you don't believe. And if 1 or 2 of the stories isn't credible in your eyes, how the fukk would that invalidate the other 40+ allegations?

In your mind, if only one woman came out, then she's probably lying....but if more and more women come out...then it's even more likely they're lying! It's a no-win situation.

"Scotti told the NY Daily News that he did almost anything to protect Bill Cosby at he network’s behest — including paying off women. Scotti alleges that when Bill invited young models into his dressing room that he would even stand outside and guard the door."

"A rapist who forced a teenager to have sex and then paid her as a reward has been jailed for a decade."

"The accused person was my neighbour... It was only after the incident... he told me, he gave me the money to keep silent"

"Many abusers are dog whistling when they give their victim gifts. The gift looks innocent on the surface, the hidden message is inaudible to most witnesses, but it has a big effect on the victim."

Nagaland rape victim offered money to keep silent.

Congressman kept giving his victim money to keep him quiet.

"After a violent incident, there is often a "honeymoon period" during which the abuser may apologize profusely, give the victim gifts and persuade the victim to stay, experts say. But when that period is over, the abuser may once again become violent."

"Phase 3: Honeymoon Phase (this is where the batterer/abuser apologizes for his behavior buying the victim gifts or flowers) "

"Offenders also use gifts and trickery to manipulate and silence the child into keeping the sexual assault a secret."

"After committing the crime Masati offered his victim $1, saying it was her Christmas present."

....why not file a rape claim like the first women did WHO GOT PAID OFF....and you really asking me whats the incentive to file a false rape claim?same as the parents who were proven to be liars who made they kids lie on Michael Jackson.

So if they go looking for that money, they're golddiggers and liars. And if they don't go looking for that money, they must not really mean it and are liars.

There were 15 women who had these claims out against Cosby by 2005. Only one filed a civil case and got paid off. The other 14 didn't follow suit, and most of them stayed anonymous...maybe because they aren't golddiggers and weren't looking for that money???

I've already given you half a dozen reasons why women don't accuse powerful men of rape, most of all because it destroys their careers and public (and private) image and because they usually don't get believed anyway. You keep ignoring that women take a shytload of L's when they go public about this - even though this whole thread is full of the exact shyt I'm talking about.

Why women don't report rape

Here's a good example

Didnt Chris Rock recently have a rape allegation?he paid the chick off too....hope 40 white women dont randomly come out the woodwork to say he raped em...Dankster believes that means he mustve done it

Yes, when 40 different witnesses come out accusing you of the same crime, it's makes it pretty fukking likely that you did that crime. That's the difference between one person coming out and forty people coming out. You have another example where 40 different unassociated people came out publicly accusing someone of the same crime, and they were all making it up?

All these other cases where powerful Black men caught cases, caught charges, either went to the slammer or beat the charges or paid the girl off...and not once did 40 other women come out and make up false charges to add onto that first women. But ya'all treating it like some sort of automatic trait of female nature that they're all just going to lie en masse like this against the poor man....even though no other Black man has ever caught 40+ false allegations in the history of entertainment.

And let's point out that this isn't just any Black man, but the most beloved and popular Black man in the White community in the history of entertainment, one who had the cleanest image and the longest history of making White people happy, and one who had spent the last 15 years shytting on modern urban Black people and giving right-wingers fantastic quotes left and right. If a great White conspiracy was going to get set up against some Black man, this is the last man they'd do that to.

Far as evidence I would need,how about a actual rape kit?how about one woman out of 40 who fought back and went to the police who saw signs of a struggle?oh there was no struggle?all they azzes took the pill and fell out,but woke up to see themselves being raped?yet didnt regain conscience and scream rape or cause a scene?out of 40 women?never had to kill one?he was powerful enuff to do it and get away with it right?

Rape kit? What would a rape kit show that Cosby hasn't already admitted to?

And your other scenarios are random as fukk because they're based on shyt that Cosby never did. He wasn't beating these women up to fukk them like some crazy White dude in the park. You won't believe the women unless they have proof of shyt that they didn't even say happened?

Or are you saying that unless the half-drugged woman screams rape or causes a scene in the middle of Cosby's own production studio, where Cosby's own guy is admittedly guarding the door to let him do this shyt, that it's not rape?

Once a ho always a ho.. Every single one these supposed "victims" were groupies, escorts, and playboy "models" who slept with Cosby voluntarily to further their career. Their acting and modeling careers never panned out and now these old ass bitter broads finally hit a lick before going to the grave. None of these interviews and magazine stories are being done for free. They getting paid thousands of dollars for every cnn or tv interview. And finally in 2015 they are getting the attention they have been craving their whole lives. One thing about ho's and groupies is that they love attention.. doesn't matter if its good or bad. That's their mentality. That's why they do all that foul stuff to get with these degenerate celebrities in the first place.

That's a lot of accusations. Where are your receipts for any of that?

Did you witness any of the claims you just made? Here any actual evidence for any of them? Or just make that shyt up?

And ya'all wonder why women don't come out, when this is the response they get.

Wait. So what if they know about murders? what about the dudes who supply cosby with this horrible horrible drug he used to destroy these womens lives? They shouldnt want that person in jail?

Im not being creative. I believe a prostitute can be raped but at the same time she got to incriminate herself. All these females got something to gain now.

t took them this long to come out cause of their "feelings" why not also wage a war against the dealers who supply said drug. Im just looking at it from the many angles that these slick females and media ignore to attack someone who they didnt want to attack years ago.

Wait, what da fukk are you talking about murders now for? These women know about murders? Where'd you get that in your head?

And it was the fukking pharmacist who was supplying Cosby with the drugs. What would the women know anyway about Cosby's supplier - HE was getting the drugs, not them.

(If they really just liked doing drugs and having sex, by the way, then why isn't there a single case of the woman being the one who bought and brought the drugs in?)

Whats the number for these women to feel comfortable calling cosby a rapist. 15, 17 it obviously had to be more than 10. It takes 25 women to come forward for one to get the courage to accuse cosby of rape?

What women rape victim/accuser have ever been criticized in the media?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Complete opposite in the public opinion.

Then why have some of these women been telling people about it for 20-30 years, some of them were going to the D.A. 10-15 years ago, there were already 15 women out with their stories by 2005...and no one in the media or the public gave a shyt or gave Cosby any grief any a couple months ago?

The difference between then and now is that until now, powerful people in the media could keep this shyt under wraps and control the whole storyline.

“People often these days say, ‘Well, why didn’t you take it to the police?’ Andrea Constand went to the police in 2005 — how’d it work out for her? Not at all. In 2005, Bill Cosby still had control of the media. In 2015, we have social media. We can’t be disappeared. It’s online and can never go away.” —Tamara Green

We label them prostitutes and criminals cause that's what they are. And there is hard evidence and criminal convictions to back that up. There is no evidence to back up their claims against Cosby though. Here are a few examples of his accusers. These are facts.

Some Cosby rape accusers have shady background
Chelan Lasha
"Lasha has a long criminal record that includes prostitution, theft, false reporting assault, disorderly conduct, weapon possession and criminal trespass."

Bill Cosby Accuser Goes to Police. Could He Face Criminal Charges? - Inside Edition
Chloe Goins
"Goins wasn't talking today, but her credibility has been called into question since she works as an exotic dancer in Las Vegas. In 2011, she was arrested for prostitution,"

So one of you is claiming that the public opinion is different, while the other one is giving examples of the media doing the exact same shyt ya'all are doing.

A woman makes a rape accusation, then her entire life is dug into and any dirt at all is brought up. And you wonder why women don't make accusations.

If a woman has ever caught a case, or has ever taken money for sex, then apparently Cosby can do what he wants with them and no one will believe .the girl. Makes it pretty easy to pick out vulnerable victims then, doesn't it - you just target the girls of "questionable character" that you know no one is going to believe.

And this was TWO women out of more than 40. Yet not only are you not going to believe them, you're going to use them to accuse the other 40+ women of all the same shyt too.

These chicks were never in the industry. They never had careers. They have nothing to loose and a whole lot of money and fame to gain. They are getting rich just giving interviews. Plus by being a "victim" they get to sanitize their shady backgrounds.

Lots of these chicks were in the industry. Most of them were aspiring models or actresses. You just took TWO women with shady backgrounds and used that to condemn all 40+ of them, but you ignore the careers that many more of them had. Cosby even admitted that he purposely was targeting women who were new in town and not doing well, and used a modeling agent to hook him up with fresh meat.

“My agent said we’ve been contacted by a really, really big person in the entertainment industry who’s interested in mentoring promising young talent. I find out it’s Bill Cosby. I had the understanding I was going to be receiving private acting coaching from him. This was the opportunity of a lifetime. A driver would pick me up, my agent was paying for it. That made it all very, very professional. The door opens, and there stands Cosby. He’s in his sweats and very casual, very friendly. I had a monologue prepared. He seemed unimpressed. He said, ‘Let’s try a cold read,’ so he pulls out a script. The scene was set in a bar; the character was someone who was inebriated. He poured a glass of white wine.And he said, use this as a prop — now, that means you’re going to have to sip on it, of course. I really don’t remember much, except waking up in his bedroom. He was naked, and he was forcing himself into my mouth.” —Heidi Thomas

“I was introduced to Bill Cosby through my modeling agent. She said that Cosby wanted to see me. Which I thought was obviously for the show. I was told there was going to be a dinner, and when I got there, no one ever arrived. He asked me if I wanted a glass of wine; I took a few sips. It had a horrible taste. And I started not feeling well. He helped me up by my underarms with both hands. He walked me into the next room, where there was a mirror on the wall, and he told me to look at myself. Something was wrong with me. And then he took my right hand, and he put it behind my back. I remember seeing semen on the floor. And I felt some liquid on my hand. That was when I knew something sexual was going on.” —Jewel Allison

“At 17, my agent introduced me to Bill Cosby, who was going to mentor me and take me to the next level of my career. Over the course of the next year, I was drugged half the time when I was with him and would come out of a delusional experience going, ‘Whoa, what was that?’ He would say, ‘Well, I needed to undress you and wash your clothes because you got drunk and made a fool of yourself.’ Do you remember the Jaycee Dugard story? She pretty much could have climbed over the fence any time she wanted to but was just so broken down and couldn’t think straight. I felt like a prisoner; I felt I was kidnapped and hiding in plain sight. I could have walked down any street of Manhattan at any time and said, ‘I’m being raped and drugged by Bill Cosby,’ but who the hell would have believed me? Nobody, nobody. I was invited down to Atlantic City to see his show and had a very confusing night where I was completely drugged and my luggage was missing. When I called the concierge to find out where my luggage was, Cosby went ballistic. He slammed the phone down and said, ‘What the hell are you doing, letting the whole hotel know I have a 19-year-old girl in my hotel suite?’ The next morning, he summoned me down to his room and yelled at me that I needed to have discretion. He threw me down on the bed and he put his forearm under my throat. He straddled me, and he took his belt buckle off. The clanking of the belt buckle, I’ll never forget.” —Barbara Bowman

“I told my supervisor at the Playboy Club what he did to me, and you know what she said to me? She said: ‘You do know that that’s Hefner’s best friend, right?’ I said, ‘Yes.’ She says to me: ‘Nobody’s going to believe you. I suggest you shut your mouth.’ ” —PJ Masten

Notice that there is a LOT of collaboration there. These women all tell stories in which other people were involved and can back up details - and some of Cosby's own people have already backed them up. They aren't random baseless accusations coming out of nowhere.

And if they have "nothing to lose and whole lot of money and fame to gain", then why have these allegations been sitting out there for 10+ years with all but one of those 15 women who made the first allegations not gaining shyt? Why are they taking L's left and right, as evidenced by your very own links and this entire thread?

You really think a woman has nothing to lose by admitting to being a rape victim and having millions of people now think of her as a slut/prostitute/golddigger/liar. This is why a lot of rape victims end up killing themselves.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Ya'all wondering why these women didn't come out in the 1970s, even though date rape wasn't even an accepted thing yet (hell, marital rape wasn't even illegal yet), and the idea of "sexual harassment" hadn't even been created yet. The women say the same thing:

I didn’t realize that I had been raped. Back then, rape was done in an alleyway with somebody holding a knife to your throat that you didn’t know. There was no date rape back then. I just knew that something horrible had happened. But I couldn’t put a name to it. The difference between this and that rape in the dark alley is that his face would be before me every week on TV. People would mention a joke that he said: ‘Wasn’t that funny?’ And all the while, my stomach would just be churning.” —Joan Tarshis

“In 1975, it wasn’t an issue that was even discussed. Rape was being beaten up in a park. I understood at the time that it was wrong, but I just internalized it and dealt with it and pushed it down, and it resided in a very private place. It affects your trust with other people.” —Marcella Tate

“Eighteen is very young. It took me a long, long time to come to terms with the fact that it was him, it wasn’t me. Life has not been easy for me. I had addiction problems as I got older.” —Linda Joy Traitz

 

[sun raw]

There's something not right about this. This is a systematic destruction. If all this is true, doesnt this make Bill Cosby a record breaking rapist?

I'm struggling to believe that not a single one of those women agreed to have sex with Bill.

probably not but it's not like things like this are outside the realm of possibility, one of britain's most popular tv personalities also turned out to be one of that country's most prolific sexual predators

Jimmy Savile - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[RadaMillz]

When I think of rape, I think of some twisted b*stard physically over powering a random woman on some "if u scream ill kill u".

 

[Scientific Playa]

Cats still going out there way for Bill even after he shytted on black people for years

the only black peeps that he addressed was hood buggas that want to repeat the cycle.
he gave of millions to HBCUs and Temple U. when the going was good. who knows how many he helped get their higher education.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

probably not but it's not like things like this are outside the realm of possibility, one of britain's most popular tv personalities also turned out to be one of that country's most prolific sexual predators

Jimmy Savile - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

450 allegations in 54 years. So no, 35 ain't too big a number.

The earliest allegation was when he was 29 years old. No reports of any history or shady behavior before that. So no, you don't have to have all sorts of early-age suspicions about you to be a dirt bag.

First allegations came when he started managing a dance hall. In other words, when he had some authority.

Raised $40,000,000 for charity. You can do good work and still be a rapist.

Police never even talked to him until 2007. People had been talking for 30+ years, but it was always kept hush, and cops never did shyt. Police dropped case due to "insufficient evidence".

Police dropped case in 2008 due to "insufficient evidence". So yes, police will drop even legit cases, even in the 2000s, especially against stars.

Real investigation finally started in 2012. By the end of 2012, 450 potential victims had turned up. The investigation determined that at least 214 people were criminally sexually assaulted. Victims ranged in age from 8 to 47. The evidence is indisputable.

So yes, when victims finally start getting believed and people do some real searching for the first time, a lot more victims come out of the woodwork.


All that can happen and not get reported for a fukking high-profile DJ, but ya'all will come up with the most ridiculous excuses for why a legend like Cosby couldn't have gotten away with a tenth of the cases that guy got away with even though he had far more industry power.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

the only black peeps that he addressed was hood buggas that want to repeat the cycle.

The thing was, he blamed every problem of the Black community on Black people. He said that it wasn't White people's fault at all. He was the dream to every White conservative, the guy they kept quoting over and over to prove that the Black community's issue was Black people, not White people.

He was blaming Black people for segregation, blaming Black people for police shootings,

Ladies and gentlemen, the lower economic and lower middle economic people are [not*] holding their end in this deal. In the neighborhood that most of us grew up in, parenting is not going on. (clapping) In the old days, you couldn't hooky school because every drawn shade was an eye (laughing). And before your mother got off the bus and to the house, she knew exactly where you had gone, who had gone into the house, and where you got on whatever you had one and where you got it from. Parents don't know that today.

We cannot blame white people. White people (clapping) .. white people don't live over there. They close up the shop early. The Korean ones still don't know us as well...they stay open 24 hours (laughter).

Looking at the incarcerated, these are not political criminals. These are people going around stealing Coca Cola. People getting shot in the back of the head over a piece of pound cake! Then we all run out and are outraged, “The cops shouldn't have shot him” What the hell was he doing with the pound cake in his hand? (laughter and clapping).

Ladies and gentlemen, listen to these people. They are showing you what’s wrong … What part of Africa did this come from? We are not Africans. Those people are not Africans. They don’t know a damned thing about Africa— with names like Shaniqua, Shaligua, Mohammed, and all that crap, and all of them are in jail.

Brown Versus the Board of Education is no longer the white person's problem. We've got to take the neighborhood back (clapping). We've got to go in there. Just forget telling your child to go to the Peace Corps. It's right around the corner. (laughter) It's standing on the corner. It can't speak English. It doesn't want to speak English. I can't even talk the way these people talk. “Why you ain't where you is go, ra,” I don't know who these people are. And I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk (laughter). Then I heard the father talk. This is all in the house. You used to talk a certain way on the corner and you got into the house and switched to English. Everybody knows it's important to speak English except these knuckleheads. You can't land a plane with “why you ain't...” You can't be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth. There is no Bible that has that kind of language. Where did these people get the idea that they're moving ahead on this. Well, they know they're not, they're just hanging out in the same place, five or six generations sitting in the projects when you're just supposed to stay there long enough to get a job and move out.

Now look, I'm telling you. It's not what they're doing to us. It's what we're not doing.

Bill Cosby Speech Transcript



Now, there's a lot of truth to some of what he says in that speech, I don't deny that. And Cosby did a hell of a lot of good with his shows and his donations. I still love him for that. But you can't deny that the way he talked about poor Black people was the White man's dream, that he was saying the exact kind of shyt about poor Black people that White people would want him to say.


As always, Coates keeping it real. This from way back in 2008.

'This Is How We Lost to the White Man': The Audacity of Bill Cosby's Black Conservatism.

From the moment he registered in the American popular consciousness, as the Oxford-educated Alexander Scott in the NBC adventure series I Spy, Cosby proffered the idea of an America that transcended race. The series, which started in 1965, was the first weekly show to feature an African American in a lead role, but it rarely factored race into dialogue or plots. Race was also mostly inconspicuous in Cosby’s performances as a hugely popular stand-up comedian. “I don’t spend my hours worrying how to slip a social message into my act,” Cosby told Playboy in 1969. He also said that he didn’t “have time to sit around and worry whether all the black people of the world make it because of me. I have my own gig to worry about.” His crowning artistic and commercial achievement—The Cosby Show, which ran from 1984 to 1992—was seemingly a monument to that understated sensibility.

Coates spends a lot of time pointing out the truth and appeal in what Cosby was saying. But he also points out:

If Cosby’s call-outs simply ended at that—a personal and communal creed—there’d be little to oppose. But Cosby often pits the rhetoric of personal responsibility against the legitimate claims of American citizens for their rights. He chides activists for pushing to reform the criminal-justice system, despite solid evidence that the criminal-justice system needs reform. His historical amnesia—his assertion that many of the problems that pervade black America are of a recent vintage—is simply wrong, as is his contention that today’s young African Americans are somehow weaker, that they’ve dropped the ball. And for all its positive energy, his language of uplift has its limitations.

Again, where in Cosby's career has he ever been someone that the White power brokers wouldn't have wanted to prop up?

 

[Cynical Thoughts]

Post an article, news story, documents, documentary etc. anything where it states that a women was criticized, critiqued, questioned, second guessed etc. by any major media outlet for accusing a man of rape.

And at the same time how was the male accusser viewed?

It never happens. They are treated like kids And still avoid criticism when they leave a "monster" on the street. Bet you think these are strong women, huh? Not one looks at the other and said all you had to do was come forward and the rapes would have stopped w/ you.

 

[Cynical Thoughts]

The thing was, he blamed every problem of the Black community on Black people. He said that it wasn't White people's fault at all. He was the dream to every White conservative, the guy they kept quoting over and over to prove that the Black community's issue was Black people, not White people.

He was blaming Black people for segregation, blaming Black people for police shootings,











Bill Cosby Speech Transcript



Now, there's a lot of truth to some of what he says in that speech, I don't deny that. And Cosby did a hell of a lot of good with his shows and his donations. I still love him for that. But you can't deny that the way he talked about poor Black people was the White man's dream, that he was saying the exact kind of shyt about poor Black people that White people would want him to say.


As always, Coates keeping it real. This from way back in 2008.

'This Is How We Lost to the White Man': The Audacity of Bill Cosby's Black Conservatism.



Coates spends a lot of time pointing out the truth and appeal in what Cosby was saying. But he also points out:



Again, where in Cosby's career has he ever been someone that the White power brokers wouldn't have wanted to prop up?

Musta been talking about you. I never once that he uttered a word about me.

Just like i aint a bytch when the rappers rap about being a punk or about fukking my girl. Must suck for you to listen to music.

Lol at black man telling black youth to act better is what whites want to hear, really?
Is Gangsta rap is the white mans dream also?

Your capping aint for these females. You seem like a hood dude made you tot called out. What you think about 2pac? He touched both extremes of the spectrum. Black pride all the way down to killing nikkas.

Ill wait in the booth for your summary of his best rhymes.