Phil Spencer is right: AAA games are in big trouble (Article)

[CEO of Morgan Industries]

You really can’t read, or you are just playing dumb

Nintendo ain’t innovating in the AAA space. At least not recently.

They put money behind Zelda, Mario, Etc.

New IP like Sushi Strikers gets a much smaller budget.

Really? Show me those Nintendo budgets for the latest Mario, the latest Zelda, and the latest Arms. Show me R&D budgets on Labo while you're at it, and Ring Fit.

Or are you illiterate Xbox stans not able to read numbers either?

 

[Marks]

That mid budget AA game gotta come back. Thats how a lot of euro devs built their brand up.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Really? Show me those Nintendo budgets for the latest Mario, the latest Zelda, and the latest Arms. Show me R&D budgets on Labo while you're at it, and Ring Fit.

Or are you illiterate Xbox stans not able to read numbers either?

We’ve already done this. I’ve answered your questions.

Now answer mine.

““Over the past 5-7 years, the AAA publishers have tried to use production scale as their new moat. Very few companies can afford to spend the $200M an Activision or Take 2 spend to put a title like Call of Duty or Red Dead Redemption on the shelf. These AAA publishers have, mostly, used this production scale to keep their top franchises in the top selling games each year. The issue these publishers have run into is these same production scale/cost approach hurts their ability to create new IP. The hurdle rate on new IP at these high production levels have led to risk aversion by big publishers on new IP. You’ve seen a rise of AAA publishers using rented IP to try to offset the risk (Star Wars with EA, Spiderman with Sony, Avatar with Ubisoft etc). This same dynamic has obviously played out in Hollywood as well with Netflix creating more new IP than any of the movie studios.”

Which Nintendo game(s) fit this criteria??

 

[CEO of Morgan Industries]

We’ve already done this.

No we haven't.

You made the claim that Nintendo is putting all their money into Zelda and Mario and not into Arms, Ring Fit, or Labo.

Prove it or you must be talking out of your ass.

 

[Mook]

cost and time is too high. Just like movies. This is what Im hoping AI fixes, the cost of development and time. People see jobs getting cut, but shyt was starting to get crazy out here. TV shows taking 2-3 years to drop cause of post production. Movies taking forever cause of CGI.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

No we haven't.

You made the claim that Nintendo is putting all their money into Zelda and Mario and not into Arms, Ring Fit, or Labo.

Prove it or you must be talking out of your ass.

It’s obvious.

If they aren’t they lost hella money on Labo.

You really think they spent more money on Labo than zelda and only sold about a million of them? I bought a Labo for my kids for like $10 on a target clearance rack, pretty much ZERO nintendo games ever go on sale like that. Labo was the flop of flops, While Zelda sold like 10 mill in two seconds?

Which again only proves the point of the damn thread.

New IP is Risky as fukk and not very lucrative. Nintendo continually fails at it like everyone else.

What are you still confused about??

 

[CEO of Morgan Industries]

It’s obvious.

So no, you don't have hard evidence with any actual numbers and are making shyt up off the top of your head.

Xbox stans

 

[Hitchens]

Multiple Forza games
Halo Infinite
Gears
Deathloop
Sea of Theives
Flight simulator
Ghostwire tokyo
Phsyconaughts
Starfield
State of Decay

This is a troll post. Half of the games on the list flopped or underperformed in actual sales.Halo infinite, Gears,Deathloop, Ghostwire, psychonauts, starfield all bombed or underperformed at retail.

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

This is a troll post. Half of the games on the list flopped or underperformed in actual sales.Halo infinite, Gears,Deathloop, Ghostwire, psychonauts, starfield all bombed or underperformed at retail.

Xbox don’t get shyt

The had to run out and buy zenimax just to have something this generation

 

[MoshpitMazi]

This is a troll post. Half of the games on the list flopped or underperformed in actual sales.Halo infinite, Gears,Deathloop, Ghostwire, psychonauts, starfield all bombed or underperformed at retail.

Starfield Hits 10 Million Players in Less Than Three Weeks - IGN




You dudes are clowns

 

[MeachTheMonster]

This is a troll post. Half of the games on the list flopped or underperformed in actual sales.Halo infinite, Gears,Deathloop, Ghostwire, psychonauts, starfield all bombed or underperformed at retail.

That’s not true at all. You goofies just make up your own stories as you go along.

Gears 5 Becomes the Most-Played Xbox Game Studios Title Since Halo 4 and Breaks XGP Records

Gears 5, the Coalition’s latest Gears installment, has become the most-played Xbox Game Studios title since Halo 4, Microsoft has announced.

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Halo Infinite reaches over 20 million players

343 Industries' latest entry in the long-running franchise is starting strong.

www.windowscentral.com

Psychonauts 2 Is Double Fine's Best Selling Game, At Least 1.7 Million Copies Sold

A rare look into an Xbox game's sales figures.

www.thegamer.com

 

[Hitchens]

Starfield Hits 10 Million Players in Less Than Three Weeks - IGN




You dudes are clowns

That is players not sales.

 

[CoolinInTheCut]

Bots still too dumb to understand number of players <> number of sales

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

That is players not sales.

Players counts are more xbox pr thats spiraled out of control

When you go an entire generation not being able to sell games and consoles you come up with all sorts of random shyt to measure success

 

[Hitchens]

That’s not true at all. You goofies just make up your own stories as you go along.

Gears 5 Becomes the Most-Played Xbox Game Studios Title Since Halo 4 and Breaks XGP Records

Gears 5, the Coalition’s latest Gears installment, has become the most-played Xbox Game Studios title since Halo 4, Microsoft has announced.

wccftech.com

Halo Infinite reaches over 20 million players

343 Industries' latest entry in the long-running franchise is starting strong.

www.windowscentral.com

Psychonauts 2 Is Double Fine's Best Selling Game, At Least 1.7 Million Copies Sold

A rare look into an Xbox game's sales figures.

www.thegamer.com

Halo and gears are players count not sales.

In the UK,Microsoft second biggest market,Gears 5 only sold a fraction of what it predecessor did at retail.

"It’s 2019, and the standards for a game’s success are rapidly shifting. Gears 5 sales – at least in the UK – have been just a fraction of its predecessors"

Gears 5 sales are bad - it is also the most successful launch in series history

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Psychonauts 2 being double fine bestselling is not impressive given the fact that double fine games don't sell that well.