Phil Spencer is right: AAA games are in big trouble (Article)

[MeachTheMonster]

Halo and gears are players count not sales.

Halo is FTP, there’s no other way to gauge a FTP games success other than player count, and very few FTP ever sniff that many players in a lifetime, let alone a couple months

In the UK,Microsoft second biggest market,Gears 5 only sold a fraction of what it predecessor did at retail.

"It’s 2019, and the standards for a game’s success are rapidly shifting. Gears 5 sales – at least in the UK – have been just a fraction of its predecessors"

Gears 5 sales are bad - it is also the most successful launch in series history

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You have physical UK sales which are pretty much worthless at this point, as most people have gone digital and the UK is just one region.

Gears of War Series Surpasses 19 Million Sales - IGN

On Gears of War's sixth anniversary, Epic has announced an impressive sales record for the Xbox 360-exclusive.

www.ign.com

Gears of War Franchise Has Sold Over 41 Million Units

Update:It has since been pointed out, The Coalition previously revealed the Gears of War franchise has sold over [...]

www.vgchartz.com

The Coalition has sold ~20 million games between Gears 4 and 5.

No way you can argue the series hasn’t been a success under them.

Psychonauts 2 being double fine bestselling is not impressive given the fact that double fine games don't sell that well.

Their most successful game, is a success. You claimed the games were not sales successes.

 

[Fatboi1]

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

Gears of War Series Surpasses 19 Million Sales - IGN

On Gears of War's sixth anniversary, Epic has announced an impressive sales record for the Xbox 360-exclusive.

www.ign.com

Gears of War Franchise Has Sold Over 41 Million Units

Update:It has since been pointed out, The Coalition previously revealed the Gears of War franchise has sold over [...]

www.vgchartz.com

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[Leasy]

This is a troll post. Half of the games on the list flopped or underperformed in actual sales.Halo infinite, Gears,Deathloop, Ghostwire, psychonauts, starfield all bombed or underperformed at retail.

Starfield is on pace to make 1 billy breh within 3 years according to estimates

 

[Pressure]

Every first party Xbox games sales are whatever the gamepass sub numbers are

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

Starfield is on pace to make 1 billy breh within 3 years according to estimates

Those estimates are from 2020 before they were acquired and launching on 3 platforms and no gamepass

starfield ain’t doing a Billie breh. Game got no legs like lieutenant Dan

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Like i said, you guys just create your own misinformation bubble and steap yourself in it. Gears 4 and 5 sold lots of copies despite also being available on gamepass.

That’s a fact.

 

[ill_will82]

Too many games are created to generate revenue rather than just being a great game.

This my main problem with gaming today. Most of the games put on the market are overhyped, overpriced, and lackluster. It very few AAA games I actually care to play through before I lose interest in them.

I'm mostly into playing retro game collections or a few remastered games from the PS3 era.

 

[Loose]

This is a troll post. Half of the games on the list flopped or underperformed in actual sales.Halo infinite, Gears,Deathloop, Ghostwire, psychonauts, starfield all bombed or underperformed at retail.

Why would this concern me if these games supposedly flopped wtf. Starfield didn't flop anyway yall some weirdo fanboys lol. I get forza in my service next month, wtf is sony and nintendo givng me next month?

Yall down bad with this shyt



Bu bu bi games underperformedpathetic fanboys

 

[Second Chance Lance]

soon as companies tried to monetize every aspect of a game and catered towards stock holders is when chit sh1t started going down hill. I just want fun azz games

 

[Hitchens]

Halo is FTP, there’s no other way to gauge a FTP games success other than player count, and very few FTP ever sniff that many players in a lifetime, let alone a couple months

You have physical UK sales which are pretty much worthless at this point, as most people have gone digital and the UK is just one region.

Gears of War Series Surpasses 19 Million Sales - IGN

On Gears of War's sixth anniversary, Epic has announced an impressive sales record for the Xbox 360-exclusive.

www.ign.com

Gears of War Franchise Has Sold Over 41 Million Units

Update:It has since been pointed out, The Coalition previously revealed the Gears of War franchise has sold over [...]

www.vgchartz.com

The Coalition has sold ~20 million games between Gears 4 and 5.

No way you can argue the series hasn’t been a success under them.


Their most successful game, is a success. You claimed the games were not sales successes.

Your articles does not prove that gears 4&5 sold over 20 million, they only shows that between 2012 and 2022 that gears franchise went from 19
to 40 million sold. Those articles does not tell us that gears 4&5 were responsible for all or even majority of those sales from 2012 to 2022. You are saying that on average Gears 4&5 sold 10 million copies each. That cannot be based on the data we have.

In the US Gears 5 debuted at number 7 on npd

This is NPD data from Sept 2019
NBA 2K20
Borderlands 3
FIFA 20
The Legend of Zelda: Link’s Awakening*
Madden NFL 20
Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon: Breakpoint
Gears 5^
Code Vein
NHL 20
Mario Kart 8*
Minecraft#
Grand Theft Auto V
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate*
Spyro Reignited Trilogy
Red Dead Redemption II
Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six: Siege
Plants vs Zombies: Battle For Neighborville
Marvel’s Spider-Man
Catherine
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild*

In Oct, Gears 5 was completely out of the top 20

NPD for October 2019

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2019
The Outer Worlds
Luigi’s Mansion 3*
Madden NFL 20
NBA 2K20
Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon: Breakpoint
WWE 2K20
FIFA 20
Borderlands 3
Ring Fit Adventure
The Legend of Zelda: Link’s Awakening*
Mario Kart 8*
Minecraft#
Grand Theft Auto V
Mortal Kombat 11
Overwatch
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate*
Code Vein
Red Dead Redemption II
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild

Gears 5 sold worst than Ghost Recon breakpoint.
Ubisoft considered Ghost recon breakpoint sales
a disappointment.

Here is a list of ubisoft bestselling titles

The 20 Best-Selling Games Developed By Ubisoft (& How Much They Sold)

Ubisoft is known for making some of the biggest titles in the industry. But which were the company's highest-selling games?

gamerant.com

The lowest selling title on that list is at 9 million sold and Ghost Recon breakpoint do not appear on that list. So Ghost Recon breakpoint has to be under 9 million to not appear on the list. Also this includes the ps4 version, Gears won't get extra sales from the ps4. So gears 5 sales will be significantly lower than Breakpoint. If we assume breakpoint sold 8 million you have to remove around 2.7 mill for the ps4, so you left 5.3 million between the Xbox and pc version for breakpoint, that is if we assume sales are evenly spilt between the platforms. Gears 5 sales ceiling can only be around 5.3 million if we use Ghost Recon breakpoint sales and if we assume it sold 8 mill as a reference point.

The big XO19 interview: Xbox boss Phil Spencer on Game Pass, streaming and Project Scarlett

At Microsoft's big XO19 event in London yesterday, Xbox boss Phil Spencer told the gathered press all about Game Pass, …

www.eurogamer.net

Phil Spencer : Gears 5 sold well for us. It sold better than Gears 4. And we feel good about it."

If Gears 5 is under 10 million so is Gears 4

During the height of Gears popularity, Gears used to sell around 5-6 million on average. You want us to believe Gears at it lowest in popularity is selling twice as much as Gears during it height in popularity?.

Gears 5 sold poorly in North America and in the UK, Xbox biggest markets, but you want us to believe Gears 5 sold 10 million.

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

Love how the thread started with xbox stans swinging from ‘uncle Phil’s’ balls about how AAA gaming is in trouble to Meach trying to prove that Gears of War is a AAA juggernaut still

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Your articles does not prove that gears 4&5 sold over 20 million, they only shows that between 2012 and 2022 that gears franchise went from 19
to 40 million sold. Those articles does not tell us that gears 4&5 were responsible for all or even majority of those sales from 2012 to 2022. You are saying that on average Gears 4&5 sold 10 million copies each. That cannot be based on the data we have.

In the US Gears 5 debuted at number 7 on npd

This is NPD data from Sept 2019
NBA 2K20
Borderlands 3
FIFA 20
The Legend of Zelda: Link’s Awakening*
Madden NFL 20
Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon: Breakpoint
Gears 5^
Code Vein
NHL 20
Mario Kart 8*
Minecraft#
Grand Theft Auto V
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate*
Spyro Reignited Trilogy
Red Dead Redemption II
Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six: Siege
Plants vs Zombies: Battle For Neighborville
Marvel’s Spider-Man
Catherine
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild*

In Oct, Gears 5 was completely out of the top 20

NPD for October 2019

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2019
The Outer Worlds
Luigi’s Mansion 3*
Madden NFL 20
NBA 2K20
Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon: Breakpoint
WWE 2K20
FIFA 20
Borderlands 3
Ring Fit Adventure
The Legend of Zelda: Link’s Awakening*
Mario Kart 8*
Minecraft#
Grand Theft Auto V
Mortal Kombat 11
Overwatch
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate*
Code Vein
Red Dead Redemption II
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild

Gears 5 sold worst than Ghost Recon breakpoint.
Ubisoft considered Ghost recon breakpoint sales
a disappointment.

Here is a list of ubisoft bestselling titles

The 20 Best-Selling Games Developed By Ubisoft (& How Much They Sold)

Ubisoft is known for making some of the biggest titles in the industry. But which were the company's highest-selling games?

gamerant.com

The lowest selling title on that list is at 9 million sold and Ghost Recon breakpoint do not appear on that list. So Ghost Recon breakpoint has to be under 9 million to not appear on the list. Also this includes the ps4 version, Gears won't get extra sales from the ps4. So gears 5 sales will be significantly lower than Breakpoint. If we assume breakpoint sold 8 million you have to remove around 2.7 mill for the ps4, so you left 5.3 million between the Xbox and pc version for breakpoint, that is if we assume sales are evenly spilt between the platforms. Gears 5 sales ceiling can only be around 5.3 million if we use Ghost Recon breakpoint sales and if we assume it sold 8 mill as a reference point.

The big XO19 interview: Xbox boss Phil Spencer on Game Pass, streaming and Project Scarlett

At Microsoft's big XO19 event in London yesterday, Xbox boss Phil Spencer told the gathered press all about Game Pass, …

www.eurogamer.net

Phil Spencer : Gears 5 sold well for us. It sold better than Gears 4. And we feel good about it."

If Gears 5 is under 10 million so is Gears 4

During the height of Gears popularity, Gears used to sell around 5-6 million on average. You want us to believe Gears at it lowest in popularity is selling twice as much as Gears during it height in popularity?.

Gears 5 sold poorly in North America and in the UK, Xbox biggest markets, but you want us to believe Gears 5 sold 10 million.

You think old gears games sold 10 million copies while the new games were out?

The only gears games to release after 2013 was judgment which only sold about a mill and then 4 and 5 came out.

Gears 5 was obviously not the lowest of popularity as it had the largest launch of the series.

There’s no way to get a totally accurate number but it’s clear both games sold between 5-6 and 10 mill. Which would be a success. Not the “bomb” or underperforming you first claimed.

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

AAA gaming is in trouble the last two gears of war games sold 10 million each

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Love how the thread started with xbox stans swinging from ‘uncle Phil’s’ balls about how AAA gaming is in trouble to Meach trying to prove that Gears of War is a AAA juggernaut still

FF16 sells 3 million = smashing success

Gears 5 sells 6-10 million while also being available on gamepass = flop terrible performance.

Sony stans