Phil Spencer is right: AAA games are in big trouble (Article)

[MeachTheMonster]

AAA gaming is in trouble the last two gears of war games sold 10 million each

“AAA gaming not based on legacy IP is in trouble.” Is actually the premis of the thread. Did you read or just came in here to say dumb shyt

Stan shyt makes sony stan’s stupid as fukk

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

“AAA gaming not based on legacy IP is in trouble.” Is actually the premis of the thread. Did you read or just came in here to say dumb shyt

Stan shyt makes sony stan’s stupid as fukk

This you?

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/it-cost-220m-to-dev-tlou2-the-economics-of-aaa-games.983449/

 

[MeachTheMonster]

This you?

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/it-cost-220m-to-dev-tlou2-the-economics-of-aaa-games.983449/

I said the same thing in that thread.

If a game doesn’t have a big name attached to it, it’s a huge risk that AAA publishers aren’t willing to make.

I guess you really can’t read

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

I said the same thing in that thread.

If a game doesn’t have a big name attached to it, it’s a huge risk that AAA publishers aren’t willing to make.

I guess you really can’t read

Yes, thats why you specifically called out the little indie title The Last of Us in the title

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Yes, thats why you specifically called out the little indie title The Last of Us in the title

You talk in circles too much dumb ass gotcha stuff. You don’t even know what you are arguing at this point.

How many new IP has ND released in the last 5 years?

We are 3 years into the new gen and ND hasn’t released a game yet, don’t even have a release window yet, and the Game they are working on is a GAAS of a previously successful IP.

Seems Sonys and ND current situation line up perfectly with the premiss of this thread. No??

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

How many new IP has ND released in the last 5 years?

Naughty Dog is a developer, not a publisher it’s not up to them to constantly churn out new IP. Sony as a publisher put out tons of successful new IP last gen, which is why they are all getting sequels now.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Naughty Dog is a developer, not a publisher it’s not up to them to constantly churn out new IP. Sony as a publisher put out tons of successful IP last gen, which is why they are all getting sequels now.

So the answer is zero

and “tons” last gen equals 2

Sony stan’s

 

[Hitchens]

You think old gears games sold 10 million copies while the new games were out?

The only gears games to release after 2013 was judgment which only sold about a mill and then 4 and 5 came out.

Gears 5 was obviously not the lowest of popularity as it had the largest launch of the series.

There’s no way to get a totally accurate number but it’s clear both games sold between 5-6 and 10 mill. Which would be a success. Not the “bomb” or underperforming you first claimed.

Gears of War ultimate release in 2015 and was heavily bundled,especially during the holidays




Gears 5 was the largest in players count not actual sales

How can Gears 5 sell 10 million when it sold less than Ghost Recon breakpoint which sold less than 10 mill?

 

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

You can mass market gaming all you want, but unlike popular music and blockbuster films, the consumer time spent on a single project/product can be x10 what a person would dedicate to a film or an album.

You can't oversell and get away with it as much as those other entertainment sectors either, because video game consumers on average are going to do more research than say the typical filmgoer or music listener.

They keep overselling mid and wondering why they are losing customers. Only sports gamers can be duped by the mass market scheme cause they typically will only play the sports genre anyway.

Great points.

I've spent 250 hrs on Witcher 3, 300+ hrs on Elden Ring, 220 hrs on Skyrim etc., like these are the kinds of games you can play for an hour a day after work...damn near a whole year or more. Rarely research new movies and I just use Spotify for music. Only buy classic albums like Thriller or Purple Rain.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Gears of War ultimate release in 2015 and was heavily bundled,especially during the holidays




Gears 5 was the largest in players count not actual sales

You think they sold 10 million of these

Even if we say they sold 5 million of them, that still leaves 15 mill between 4 and 5.

Still very successful and on par if not better selling than the OG series, while also being available on a subscription service.

You said it was at its least popular when 5 came out, That’s clearly not true.

How can Gears 5 sell 10 million when it sold less than Ghost Recon breakpoint which sold less than 10 mill?

Your NPD math is unreliable at best. Too many different variables and assumptions being made.

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

So the answer is zero

and “tons” last gen equals 2

Sony stan’s

Answer is Horizon Zero Dawn, Ghost of Tsushima, Astro Bot, Returnal, Death Stranding, Spider-Man, Bloodborne, Detroit Become Human

And they successfully revitalized god of war, a franchise that used to do 5 million lifetime is doing 5 million a week. Sony are hit makers

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Answer is Horizon Zero Dawn, Ghost of Tsushima, Astro Bot, Returnal, Death Stranding, Spider-Man, Bloodborne, Detroit Become Human,

So 2

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

So 2

 

[O³ (O cubed)]

You think they sold 10 million of these

Even if we say they sold 5 million of them, that still leaves 15 mill between 4 and 5.

Still very successful and on par if not better selling than the OG series, while also being available on a subscription service.

You said it was at its least popular when 5 came out, That’s clearly not true.

Your NPD math is unreliable at best. Too many different variables and assumptions being made.

Gears 5 didn't sell 10m. Most of the players were game pass

Spoiler

I was one of them

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Gears 5 didn't sell 10m. Most of the players were game pass

Spoiler

I was one of them

Again between 2013 and 2022 Gears sold 22 million copies.

The only two mainline games to come out during that time were 4 and 5.

It’s fine if you wanna argue the remaster sold 5-6 mill, but that still leaves 15-16 mill that 4 and 5 sold together while also being on gamepass.

Those are the numbers.