Pete Nice Says MC Serch is a Legend In His Own Mind!!!!!

[Sniper]

Yeah, I can tell you aint from back then.

Most people didn't know or give a fukk about "Hammer employing the hood and providing for his community" because pre-internet, we didn't know what the fukk rappers were doing 90% of the time they weren't on stage or in a video.

You think nikkaz in the hood in NY, Chicago, ATL, etc. . .were sitting around talking about Hammer's business acumen.

It was a purer culture back then.

If you showed respect, you got respect.

If you represented the culture well & kept it thoro, you got love

Hammer came out disrespecting the GOATs (Run-DMC, LL Cool J) at the time and that's all nikkaz gave a fukk about.

Especially, some dancing, genie pants ass nikka, who's making commercial music for CACs?

Like, it'd be like some wack ass Kidz Bop rapper coming out and dissing Kendrick Lamar or something.

I don't know who advised Hammer to go after the literal sacred cows of the culture, but a lot of that had to do with his problems.

Hammer disrespected all of New York.



1991 raps>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2022 raps

I added an edit to one of my post stating that I was incorrect on him dissing Run DMC because I had never seen that video.

 

[morris]

A lot of people forget damn near ALL rappers during that era were dissing Hammer
LL Cool J
Run DMC-already mentioned

Ice Cube
EPMD
Redman and that's just off the top

People act like 3rd Bass were architects in this. I liked some of their songs but never saw them as pillars.

But props to them forever for bringing MF DOOM and KMD before the solo act to the world

 

[theworldismine13]

Good interview, I misspoke before in the thread, I didn't know the whole history of 3rd bass and kmd

 

[Sniper]

A lot of people forget damn near ALL rappers during that era were dissing Hammer
LL Cool J
Run DMC-already mentioned

Ice Cube
EPMD
Redman and that's just off the top

People act like 3rd Bass were architects in this. I liked some of their songs but never saw them as pillars.

But props to them forever for bringing MF DOOM and KMD before the solo act to the world

Were they dissing him when he first came out or when he got popular?

 

[boogers]

i like pete nice.. he seems like a decent cat who is aware of his place in a black artform and is respectful of it

meanwhile serch's dumb ass is running around bragging about signing nas and making up stories about hammer

 

[Digital Omen]

them crackers were corny White boys coming out dissing white people. When white people in hip hop come out dissing other white people too hard, they have something to hide. I said this about Eminem when he came out and nobody believed me. This was years before he was exposed in those tapes.. Just be yourself. Rappers like Apathy, Cage, or the Beastie boys never had to do that "anti-white" bullshyt 3rd bass and Eminem impressed you silly negroes with.

One of these is not like the others

 

[morris]

Were they dissing him when he first came out or when he got popular?

funny, as it appears Hammer made the first strike (not to 3rd Bass as they were not on his radar)

Largely on the strength of tireless street marketing by Hammer and his wife, in addition to continuous radio play, it achieved considerable popularity at dance clubs in the San Francisco Bay Area. In the spring of 1988, Tony Valera (a 107.7 KSOL Radio DJ), played the track "Let's Get It Started" in his mix-shows. The track also gained popularity in nightclubs. Hammer declared he was "second to none from Doug E. Fresh, LL Cool J or DJ Run" within the song. He would continue to call out other East Coast rappers in future projects as well.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Serch gave his side of the story years ago on the break up (yes they had a rule not to bring their girls on tour. Because they wanted to fukk groupies. Serch alleges Pete said "I got a problem with you bringing your bytch on tour" and that was the end of 3rd Bass).

Spoke on the Hammer hit. Said the line "The Cactus turned Hammer's mother out" was misinterpreted. (IDK what other interpretation there can be for a line like that). According to Serch, it was a play on Hammer's "Turn this mother out." Mike Concepcion squashed it in exchange for getting to sit next to Michael Jackson at the 1990 AMAs. (Remember MJ had Crip love).

Spoke on Nas and O.C. Said he never signed Nas to Serchlite and only brokered his deal to where Nas got the same points as Billy Joel (that's wild if true) and exec produced Illmatic. Said O.C was pissed and ready to fight over how Serch was handling his career. O.C disappeared for a year and one day turned up at Serch's office with "Time's Up."

Serch Pt. 1

Serch Pt. 2

While breaking that tour rule is not good breaking up the group over it is worse. It just shows they weren't that tight and let some dumb shyt break them up. They fukked up, if they stayed together I think they would be like a legacy Hip Hop act people from many walks of life could get into going close to gold every drop ala De LA, Tribe, Gangstarr, etc.
Also, funny thing about, "The Cactus turned Hammer's mother out" line Pete Nice said it but it seems Serch caught all the flack. lol

 

[Supa]

Proper, whatcha say Hammer?
Proper, rap is not pop if you call it that then stop

Don't over think it. Hammer got dissed because wasn't making music for the culture but for a pop audience. He was an entertainer not a rapper. Kid n Play danced but got love because they were a part of the culture. Selling out was frowned upon and other rappers were going to call you out. We had gatekeepers back then.

 

[Digital Omen]

While breaking that tour rule is not good breaking up the group over it is worse. It just shows they weren't that tight and let some dumb shyt break them up. They fukked up, if they stayed together I think they would be like a legacy Hip Hop act people from many walks of life could get into going close to gold every drop ala De LA, Tribe, Gangstarr, etc.
Also, funny thing about, "The Cactus turned Hammer's mother out" line Pete Nice said it but it seems Serch caught all the flack. lol

Your creative partner and co-worker calls your girl a bytch. What do you do?

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Your creative partner and co-worker calls your girl a bytch. What do you do?

Maybe shoot a fair one? Why fukk up all that $ and status over it?
Also, Serch eventually got over it he was the one spearheading their reunion of recording together again. And they have performed live together since numerous times.

 

[Digital Omen]

Maybe shoot a fair one? Why fukk up all that $ and status over it?
Also, Serch eventually got over it he was the one spearheading their reunion of recording together again. And they have performed live together since numerous times.

In the article I posted Serch says he tried to do just that but Pete wouldn't come out of his room.
Then Lyor added more dates after Serch told him they needed to come off the road and talk shyt over. Serch got pissed and told the tall Israeli running this rap shyt that by adding more tour dates he ended the group.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

In the article I posted Serch says he tried to do just that but Pete wouldn't come out of his room.
Then Lyor added more dates after Serch told him they needed to come off the road and talk shyt over. Serch got pissed and told the tall Israeli running this rap shyt that by adding more tour dates he ended the group.

OK so if Lyor added more tour dates he would eventually see Pete not in his room and could have shot the fair one then.
The world stops because Pete uttered one word? I understand emotions in the moment can overrule long term plans and this is not really an organic rap group, they were soloists put together. So I think no one is really at blame, I just think it's a shame. They had a bright future ahead of them.

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

Yeah, I can tell you aint from back then.

Most people didn't know or give a fukk about "Hammer employing the hood and providing for his community" because pre-internet, we didn't know what the fukk rappers were doing 90% of the time they weren't on stage or in a video.

You think nikkaz in the hood in NY, Chicago, ATL, etc. . .were sitting around talking about Hammer's business acumen.

It was a purer culture back then.

If you showed respect, you got respect.

If you represented the culture well & kept it thoro, you got love

Hammer came out disrespecting the GOATs (Run-DMC, LL Cool J) at the time and that's all nikkaz gave a fukk about.

Especially, some dancing, genie pants ass nikka, who's making commercial music for CACs?

Like, it'd be like some wack ass Kidz Bop rapper coming out and dissing Kendrick Lamar or something.

I don't know who advised Hammer to go after the literal sacred cows of the culture, but a lot of that had to do with his problems.

Hammer disrespected all of New York.



1991 raps>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2022 raps

bytch I'm 45. If I aint from "back then", where the fuk am I from?

 

[Rollie Forbes]

First single already a diss.

I kind of feel like Michael Rappaport will kick a verse on the remix.