Pete Nice Says MC Serch is a Legend In His Own Mind!!!!!

[SAJ!!]

Yeah, I can tell you aint from back then.

Most people didn't know or give a fukk about "Hammer employing the hood and providing for his community" because pre-internet, we didn't know what the fukk rappers were doing 90% of the time they weren't on stage or in a video.

You think nikkaz in the hood in NY, Chicago, ATL, etc. . .were sitting around talking about Hammer's business acumen.

It was a purer culture back then.

If you showed respect, you got respect.

If you represented the culture well & kept it thoro, you got love

Hammer came out disrespecting the GOATs (Run-DMC, LL Cool J) at the time and that's all nikkaz gave a fukk about.

Especially, some dancing, genie pants ass nikka, who's making commercial music for CACs?

Like, it'd be like some wack ass Kidz Bop rapper coming out and dissing Kendrick Lamar or something.

I don't know who advised Hammer to go after the literal sacred cows of the culture, but a lot of that had to do with his problems.

Hammer disrespected all of New York.



1991 raps>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2022 raps

I'm glad that I'm not the only one that had a problem with folks trying to re-write and sanitize Hammer's history like he was a victim. Even if all of his shenanigans didn't happen, he would have been seen as corny by other rappers, but they would have let him be. But no. He had to come out dissing the very people who were the reason why he even had a career from the get-go,

And folks really need to stop this "everybody was jealous of Hammer" crap. He may have been the man to middle school kids and adults who didn't know any better. In our circles, he was viewed as a clown by those who actually listened to hip-hop.

 

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

bytch I'm 45. If I aint from "back then", where the fuk am I from?

Then your old ass should know better.

I'm glad that I'm not the only one that had a problem with folks trying to re-write and sanitize Hammer's history like he was a victim. Even if all of his shenanigans didn't happen, he would have been seen as corny by other rappers, but they would have let him be. But no. He had to come out dissing the very people who were the reason why he even had a career from the get-go,

And folks really need to stop this "everybody was jealous of Hammer" crap. He may have been the man to middle school kids and adults who didn't know any better. In our circles, he was viewed as a clown by those who actually listened to hip-hop.

Thank you!!!

 

[TripleAgent]

Yeah, I can tell you aint from back then.

Most people didn't know or give a fukk about "Hammer employing the hood and providing for his community" because pre-internet, we didn't know what the fukk rappers were doing 90% of the time they weren't on stage or in a video.

You think nikkaz in the hood in NY, Chicago, ATL, etc. . .were sitting around talking about Hammer's business acumen.

It was a purer culture back then.

If you showed respect, you got respect.

If you represented the culture well & kept it thoro, you got love

Hammer came out disrespecting the GOATs (Run-DMC, LL Cool J) at the time and that's all nikkaz gave a fukk about.

Especially, some dancing, genie pants ass nikka, who's making commercial music for CACs?

Like, it'd be like some wack ass Kidz Bop rapper coming out and dissing Kendrick Lamar or something.

I don't know who advised Hammer to go after the literal sacred cows of the culture, but a lot of that had to do with his problems.

Hammer disrespected all of New York.



1991 raps>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2022 raps

Proper, whatcha say Hammer?
Proper, rap is not pop if you call it that then stop

Don't over think it. Hammer got dissed because wasn't making music for the culture but for a pop audience. He was an entertainer not a rapper. Kid n Play danced but got love because they were a part of the culture. Selling out was frowned upon and other rappers were going to call you out. We had gatekeepers back then.

All facts

 

[Sniper]

Many rappers danced back then and Hammer was no different. He was energetic, had lots of dancers and a good stage show.

As I stated before, I like many didn't see that original vid of him dissing Run DMC or we would've known that the dissing towards him was warranted.

Hammer was corny to some, but most rappers are corny to some. But Hammer was well received and was difficult so he became popular.

He got so popular that he was viewed as going commercial and selling out. He definitely went commercial but it was because of his popularity and opportunities coming his way.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Many rappers danced back then and Hammer was no different. He was energetic, had lots of dancers and a good stage show.

As I stated before, I like many didn't see that original vid of him dissing Run DMC or we would've known that the dissing towards him was warranted.

Hammer was corny to some, but most rappers are corny to some. But Hammer was well received and was difficult so he became popular.

He got so popular that he was viewed as going commercial and selling out. He definitely went commercial but it was because of his popularity and opportunities coming his way.

What do you mean he was "difficult"?
Also, I can only speak for the Tri-State area his big hit "Can't Touch This" was like popular among white people or outsiders of Hip Hop. No one actually even semi-deeply into Hip Hop championed that song. It was like, "Who Let the Dawgs Out", "Do the Macarena" and "Gangnam Style". Even while popular it was kind of a joke.

 

[hex]

I added an edit to one of my post stating that I was incorrect on him dissing Run DMC because I had never seen that video.

He dissed LL, Doug E. Fresh, and RUN DMC on "Let's Get It Started".

Did you never hear the song?

Fred.

 

[FunkDoc1112]

Serch gave his side of the story years ago on the break up (yes they had a rule not to bring their girls on tour. Because they wanted to fukk groupies. Serch alleges Pete said "I got a problem with you bringing your bytch on tour" and that was the end of 3rd Bass).

Spoke on the Hammer hit. Said the line "The Cactus turned Hammer's mother out" was misinterpreted. (IDK what other interpretation there can be for a line like that). According to Serch, it was a play on Hammer's "Turn this mother out." Mike Concepcion squashed it in exchange for getting to sit next to Michael Jackson at the 1990 AMAs. (Remember MJ had Crip love).

Spoke on Nas and O.C. Said he never signed Nas to Serchlite and only brokered his deal to where Nas got the same points as Billy Joel (that's wild if true) and exec produced Illmatic. Said O.C was pissed and ready to fight over how Serch was handling his career. O.C disappeared for a year and one day turned up at Serch's office with "Time's Up."

Serch Pt. 1

Serch Pt. 2

Carmen mentioned that Nas was eating well off of Illmatic's sales

 

[Sniper]

What do you mean he was "difficult"?
Also, I can only speak for the Tri-State area his big hit "Can't Touch This" was like popular among white people or outsiders of Hip Hop. No one actually even semi-deeply into Hip Hop championed that song. It was like, "Who Let the Dawgs Out", "Do the Macarena" and "Gangnam Style". Even while popular it was kind of a joke.

“Spellcheck”, I meant different.

I can also only speak from my experience also.

"Can't Touch This" was on Hammer's third album, it was a big hit but that's when the turn started and fans started to lose interest.

It was also when he started being labeled "Commercial".

When Hammer first came out he wasn't viewed as corny, except maybe in the Tri-State area.

 

[Sniper]

He dissed LL, Doug E. Fresh, and RUN DMC on "Let's Get It Started".

Did you never hear the song?

Fred.

Yes I heard the song 34 years ago but don't remember the lyrics word for word and can recite them like you.

 

[hex]

Yes I heard the song 34 years ago but don't remember the lyrics word for word and can recite them like you.

You got a gang of posts defending him and talking about his career....the expectation is you remember what happened.

This ain't some random lyric or forgotten hip-hop trivia....him dissing LL, Doug E. Fresh, and RUN DMC fukked him up right out the gate with a lot of people.
How you in here telling us how people felt back then, and don't even remember what happened?

Fred.

 

[maxamusa]

You got a gang of posts defending him and talking about his career....the expectation is you remember what happened.

This ain't some random lyric or forgotten hip-hop trivia....him dissing LL, Doug E. Fresh, and RUN DMC fukked him up right out the gate with a lot of people.
How you in here telling us how people felt back then, and don't even remember what happened?

Fred.

doubling down to die on the hammer hill is nuts....he musta been getting hooked up in the bay

 

[b. woods]

You cant bring your GF or wife on tour??? thats the beef?

I cant believe some of the shyt that makes relationships go sour...

What if she was tryna force her way into making decisions when it came to the group's matters?

 

[Sniper]

doubling down to die on the hammer hill is nuts....he musta been getting hooked up in the bay

Dust off ya knee pads homie.

 

[Sniper]

You got a gang of posts defending him and talking about his career....the expectation is you remember what happened.

This ain't some random lyric or forgotten hip-hop trivia....him dissing LL, Doug E. Fresh, and RUN DMC fukked him up right out the gate with a lot of people.
How you in here telling us how people felt back then, and don't even remember what happened?

Fred.

I have a gang that of posts speaking about what I saw back then. I even corrected myself in my own post after seeing the vid where he had Run DMC lookalikes in the beginning.

Hammer had typical braggadocios lyrics when speaking about LL, Doug E and Run DMC. Instead of saying he was the best of all rappers like LL did in "I'm Bad", he decided to name names for attention.

I googled "MC Hammer Dissed" and LL Cool J came up addressing his response to Hammer's song.

You must be from the "Tri-State" area too because the rest of the world wasn't tripping on what Hammer said.

It was definitely bold, but it was to get attention and I can see why New York artists dissed and didn't like him from the jump.

 

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

What do you mean he was "difficult"?
Also, I can only speak for the Tri-State area his big hit "Can't Touch This" was like popular among white people or outsiders of Hip Hop. No one actually even semi-deeply into Hip Hop championed that song. It was like, "Who Let the Dawgs Out", "Do the Macarena" and "Gangnam Style". Even while popular it was kind of a joke.

Remember how "CB4" clowned that nikka with that Wacky D, shyt?