Pete Nice Says MC Serch is a Legend In His Own Mind!!!!!

[AnonymityX1000]

Hammer was positive, didn't disrespect anyone and started out selling tapes out of his trunk. He hustled and worked hard to get where he was.

Heavy D, Kid N Play, Big Daddy Kane etc and many more rappers all danced so his "Dance Rap" wasn't the reason for the criticism.

Even Search danced!

He got to big and people started hating. The same thing happened with Biggie in his own city. He got too popular and people started hating.

Hammer had his own style and where I was nobody thought he was corny.

His first or second video he had RUN DMC lookalikes and he was clowning them. So he did disrespect. That's why RUN DMC is knocking down the Hammer with glasses in the Gasface video.

 

[threattonature]

I can't say I agree.

When Hammer first came out I was at Central on 38th and Linwood in KCMO, which was literally 99% black.

People (fans and rappers alike) just thought Hammer was a corn ball. That's all it was.

People fukked with his music the same way they fukked with Kid N Play. Nobody was gonna side with Kid N Play over a "real" rapper though.

In recent years people have been far more forgiving of Hammer than they were initially. Which is fine. But some of it borders on history revision.

Fred.

Random but me and my fam came up two blocks from Central High. Two generations that walked to school there. I moved from there for good around 91. We was on E32nd street.

 

[hex]

Random but me and my fam came up two blocks from Central High. Two generations that walked to school there. I moved from there for good around 91. We was on E32nd street.

So you know I'm not bullshytting about the racial demographic.

That was a heavy area in the 80's and 90's.

I grew up further down, on 30th and Charlotte. Went to Central, Westport, and Paseo. Graduated in 1995.

Fred.

 

[threattonature]

So you know I'm not bullshytting about the racial demographic.

That was a heavy area in the 80's and 90's.

I grew up further down, on 30th and Charlotte. Went to Central, Westport, and Paseo. Graduated in 1995.

Fred.

Yeah my whole block was all black. Before they renovated Central and tried to gentrify that shyt it was all us in there. A bunch of crazy stories used to come out of Central including my next door neighbor catching a razor to the face for slapping a girl that threw his dice lol.

 

[hex]

Yeah my whole block was all black. Before they renovated Central and tried to gentrify that shyt it was all us in there. A bunch of crazy stories used to come out of Central including my next door neighbor catching a razor to the face for slapping a girl that threw his dice lol.

Man we used to have food fights at Central that would send people to the hospital.

But let me chill out derailing the thread. Anyway breh, good shyt.

Fred.

 

[Sniper]

His first or second video he had RUN DMC lookalikes and he was clowning them. So he did disrespect. That's why RUN DMC is knocking down the Hammer with glasses in the Gasface video.

Can you point me to what first or second video that you're talking about?

I wasn't able to find it.



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Edit: I found it, yeah that was disrespectful and I was wrong.

I never saw it and that'd definitely rub people the wrong way.

 

[Deltron]

Graduated in 1995.

damn i was in 5th grade

 

[DaRealness]

Even what Serch said about Hammer calling in to KDAY and what was said didn't even happen as you can hear in the above video.

 

[Sniper]

Even what Serch said about Hammer calling in to KDAY and what was said didn't even happen as you can hear in the above video.

Damn Search was

 

[TripleAgent]

Run DMC and LL were going back and forth with Hammer for years. I don't have a problem with that, but i do have a problem with 2 kkkrkers going at a black man that's uplifting his community and black people standing by them. Regardless of how "wack" he may have been to the hip hop community, you don't send out a kkkraker to diss a black man publicly that doing good for other black people. Maybe it's something your parents/grandparents havent taught you. Maybe it's something you haven't taught your own kids, but the fact you're defending it is a representation of why we as black people are fukked up as a whole.

You don't know what you're talking about. Let's Get It Started was Hammer's first single from his first album. They likely had zero idea who the fukk Hammer was until then. He started it. Period, point blank.

Also, 3rd Bass were Russell's "hitmen". He had them dis the everloving fukk out of The Beastie Boys for leaving. Run is his brother, he managed Run-DMC and LL was one of the flagship Def Jam artists. If it wasn't his idea flat out, he 100% cosigned it. He's on the album. It's okay to not know, but coming out like you did on some random foolery just exposes you. Calm down and listen, you may learn some things.

And 150% F U C K your corny Bill Cosby speech there. Save that shyt for the poor souls that have you to look up to.

He was in the "dance/rap" lane. He made good music but people thought he was corny. Right out the gate. At least where I was.

A little bit after that, when he was doing everything under the sun to cross over, is when he started getting outright shytted on.

I never personally seen anyone like him enough for the criticism back then to be labeled as "hating".

Fred.

That "hating" bullshyt started with wack South rappers and Jay and Puff using it to defend wackness and cheesey pop shyt. Before then, if you did corny pop shyt, you got dissed. It's how it always was until then. Now, it's an excuse to do weird shyt and be garbage at rapping.

Hammer was positive, didn't disrespect anyone and started out selling tapes out of his trunk. He hustled and worked hard to get where he was.

Heavy D, Kid N Play, Big Daddy Kane etc and many more rappers all danced so his "Dance Rap" wasn't the reason for the criticism.

Even Search danced!

He got to big and people started hating. The same thing happened with Biggie in his own city. He got too popular and people started hating.

Hammer had his own style and where I was nobody thought he was corny.

Hammer had weird pants, homies with weird hairstyles, and they danced for chicken. Back then selling out was a cardinal sin.

 

[DANJ!]

If you weren't from New York, you were looked down on back then.

That's why so many West and South artists were cool with each other as well.

Y'all gotta stop with this being the reason for Hammer's backlash...

The same time this was happening, EPMD was doin' videos with NWA, PE was workin' with Cube, Digital Underground was gettin' love, Ice-T got love, even 2 Live Crew got love and they couldn't rap for shyt... Hammer got dissed for coming out dissin' dudes and bein' wack. Nothin' to do with being from the West.

 

[threattonature]

All this talk about Let's Get it Started had me go back and watch the video. It's exactly what I picture if Stephen A Smith had ever tried to be a rapper.

 

[EastsideRio]

I saw Greg Nice and was like damn everybody’s shytting on Serch but it was Pete Nice saying all this shyt

I thought it said Pete Rock

 

[Boonapalist]

I can't say I agree.

When Hammer first came out I was at Central on 38th and Linwood in KCMO, which was literally 99% black.

People (fans and rappers alike) just thought Hammer was a corn ball. That's all it was.

People fukked with his music the same way they fukked with Kid N Play. Nobody was gonna side with Kid N Play over a "real" rapper though.

In recent years people have been far more forgiving of Hammer than they were initially. Which is fine. But some of it borders on history revision.

Fred.

These dudes are revising history. Even 2Pac who was coming out the Bay threw shots at Hammer in his first interview with Davey D and that clip that just came out.

Hammer was looked at as a sellout who was watering down the culture by a lot of people. All this talk now of his gangsterism or him putting his people on didn’t exist back than.

 

[Rollie Forbes]

You know your stuff. Would you say Pete's debut was better than Search's (minus him putting the GOAT on his record) ? I always felt Nice's album was more solid than Return of the Product

I walked past this tape a million times in the record store. I never wanted to hear Pete Nice's solo joints. I think this was my first time actually listening this song (I probably heard it playing in the background somewhere, tbh).