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But a few pages ago you said Snyder was CHANGING the Superman mythos in some bold and innovative way? Which is it Oochie Wally or One Mic?
Your not understanding breh.

Dr Manhattan was created based off the idea of superman in the real world.

Snyder wants to make a story about how the world would react to superman.

Similarities aren't surprising.
 

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Your not understanding breh.

Dr Manhattan was created based off the idea of superman in the real world.

Snyder wants to make a story about how the world would react to superman.

Similarities aren't surprising.
Why would he want to do that after directing a movie with a Dr. Manhattan plot? Is that smart? Original? Necessary?
 

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Your not understanding breh.

Dr Manhattan was created based off the idea of superman in the real world.

Snyder wants to make a story about how the world would react to superman.

Similarities aren't surprising.
?????
Dr. Manhattan and Superman do not have similar powers nor origins. The only thing he has in common with Superman is that he is the most powerful being in his world. Dr. Manhattan is a Captain Atom or Solar analogy more then a superman analogy. Superman is a character that was from another world who had great power. Dr. Manhattan is more about if a normal human suddenly had the power of god rather then the story of God learning about the virtues of man. Moore created Dr. Manhattan because he could not use Captain Atom. I don't know if Synder understands that but he should. And people were not that scared of Dr. Manhattan because he was once human and he was created by man while people fear Superman because he is an Alien from the get go who has to prove he is not a problem.
Superman and Captain Marvel(Shazam) are the same
 

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Why would he want to do that after directing a movie with a Dr. Manhattan plot? Is that smart? Original? Necessary?
I don't know breh.

But complaining about characters that are based off each other, is kinda silly.

If your gonna try to make a movie about superman living in a realistic world, then he's bound to resemble Dr Manhattan since that's the entire premises of that character.
 

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I don't know breh.

But complaining about characters that are based off each other, is kinda silly.

If your gonna try to make a movie about superman living in a realistic world, then he's bound to resemble Dr Manhattan since that's the entire premises of that character.
Bryan Singer and Richard Donner were able to avoid it. Seems kinda silly to do something you just did several years ago in a comic book movie. All I'm saying is he should have gone a different route with the character/story in my humble opinion.
 

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?????
Dr. Manhattan and Superman do not have similar powers nor origins. The only thing he has in common with Superman is that he is the most powerful being in his world. Dr. Manhattan is a Captain Atom or Solar analogy more then a superman analogy. Superman is a character that was from another world who had great power. Dr. Manhattan is more about if a normal human suddenly had the power of god rather then the story of God learning about the virtues of man. Moore created Dr. Manhattan because he could not use Captain Atom. I don't know if Synder understands that but he should. And people were not that scared of Dr. Manhattan because he was once human and he was created by man while people fear Superman because he is an Alien from the get go who has to prove he is not a problem.
Superman and Captain Marvel(Shazam) are the same
Breh, the writer of the watchmen himself said that Dr Manhattan and all of the watchmen were created with the idea of what if superman and other heros existed in the real world and how they'd see that world. Look beyond the characters powers.

You have to look at what the watchmen was about. Dr manhattan's looks and powers were based on captian atom. His personality and ideas are based off the ideas of super powers beings existing in the real world ( like superman)

Capitan atom is just another human that aquired powers in an accident. He's not seen as a higher being living among humans
 

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Bryan Singer and Richard Donner were able to avoid it. Seems kinda silly to do something you just did several years ago in a comic book movie. All I'm saying is he should have gone a different route with the character/story in my humble opinion.
Nobody wants to see boyscout superman, shyt is wack now.

:yeshrug:
 

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OK, you mean you don't want to see that.
How did this new age Supes turn out? Middling origin movie and a critically panned er um sequel? I think my argument has some merit now in hindsight.
Honestly, I like this new superman more than the old one.

I don't necessarily think snyder should be the guy to see the vision through, but I don't have a problem with the new direction.
 

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Honestly, I like this new superman more than the old one.

I don't necessarily think snyder should be the guy to see the vision through, but I don't have a problem with the new direction.
Cool man, just preferences. I can dig that.
What did you think about Superman dying at the end of BvS and do you think when he is resurrected his character will change? If yes, do you think he will change for the better or worse as far as direction of the character?
 

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OK, you mean you don't want to see that.
How did this new age Supes turn out? Middling origin movie and a critically panned er um sequel? I think my argument has some merit now in hindsight.
How did singers superman turn out again?

Oh yeah. It flopped. Because the audience doesn't want to see it.

But yes let's keep pretending Rotten tomatoes scores are what the audience is exactly in tune with
 

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Movies and the original source material (comics) are two different things. That's one of the reasons why I feel Batman Begins is slept on because he stayed true to the essence of Batman in the comics as far as mystery and being non-violent.
:what:Batman callously left Ras al Ghul to die in that train at the end of the movie when he had every chance to save Ras and even made a big point of doing it.
 

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Cool man, just preferences. I can dig that.
What did you think about Superman dying at the end of BvS and do you think when he is resurrected his character will change? If yes, do you think he will change for the better or worse as far as direction of the character?
If they keep snyder away then I have high hopes. Dude completely fails at giving superman any type of character. Just cause I want a more realistic superman doesn't mean I want a silent, unopinionated superman.

As for his character after he comes back to life? I kinda want them to go the injustice route that they were hinting at in BvS.

It would take a lot of guts to build superman into a bad guy for the justice League to face eventually.

I don't think DC has the balls honestly
 

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Breh, the writer of the watchmen himself said that Dr Manhattan and all of the watchmen were created with the idea of what if superman and other heros existed in the real world and how they'd see that world. Look beyond the characters powers.

You have to look at what the watchmen was about. Dr manhattan's looks and powers were based on captian atom. His personality and ideas are based off the ideas of super powers beings existing in the real world ( like superman)

I argue the superman point because in the Watchman universe Dr Manhattan is the only being with power and he was once human. He never learned he was special or earned his power through some trial. It was completely random and could have happened to anyone. While the idea of Watchman is about what if Superheroes did exist and what that would look like a character like Superman who identity is tied into his alien nature is not a proper analogy to what Dr. Manhattan represents. Doc Manhattan is not judging man from on high he is a character who is taken out of the cave and can no longer relate to anyone.
 
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